MYSTERY, BABYLON

[Strangelove]

But if you really think about it, Catholicism is a counterfeit of Christianity. Any Catholic will tell you they are Christian. The devil is anti christian, so the best way to get back at God is to lead people into what they think is Christianity - Pagan sun worship (from babylon) in the guise of "Christianity"

Satan is smart, as he wants to conceal his plans, but to those reading the bible we can be sure that all is revealed and Rome is mentioned as the last Kingdom on earth that will fall. The Pope is even taking on the role of one of the beasts already, as he is leading this ecumenical movement into this New World order, teaming with the government.

As for the blood of the saints - The pope was involved with Hitler. More innocent lives lost at the hands of the catholic church!

Scripture STILL says Jerusalem is responsible for ALL the righteous blood of the saints and the prophets.

You can add your own philosophy to it as much as you like but it says what it sayz.

Catholocism is a pharisaical TEMPLE CULT. It's just apostate Yahwehism dressed up in different robes.

 

[Strangelove]

Daniel told Nebuchadnezzar about the fourth and last earthly kingdom, "And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron: forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and subdueth all things: and as iron that breaketh all these, shall it break in pieces and bruise." (Daniel 2:40). "And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters’ clay and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay. And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken. . . . but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay." (Daniel 2:41- 43).
Daniel told the King that the fourth world empire, Rome, would be divided as represented by the ten toes of the image. Some of the resulting nations would be strong and some would be weak. This has been fulfilled as the nations of Europe are the successors to the Roman Empire.


Through the years since the fall of the Roman Empire there has been an ongoing effort to bring about a united Europe and another world empire. History records show that every attempt has failed. Just as Daniel predicted, "but they shall not cleave one to another." (Daniel 2:43). Daniel was revealing to the King and also to us, "What shall be in the latter days." (Daniel 2:28).

The new attempt to bring about a New World Order is another effort to form a one-world government. All the attempts that have been made to bring about another world empire have failed, and it has been at great loss of human lives. The reason that they all have been, and will continue to be unsuccessful is because they are not listening to the God of heaven. He told Daniel that there would not be another world empire after Rome.

There is more Bible prophecy that tells us we are about to see the world unite under the influence of the papacy. We will be told that in the name of world peace, all nations need to succumb to the Vatican’s vision of the New World Order. (Ecumenical movement is uniting religions as one and the Pope is working with the US Government in this goal of New World Order)[FONT=Times New Roman, Times]
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And talmudic Judaism has absolutely nothing to do with all that right?

NOAHIDE LAWS!!!!!

 

[Strangelove]

Yup..

1. Rapture before tribulation - Coming 1
2. Rapture before mil reign- Coming 2
3. Coming at new heavens new earth. - Coming 3

So yeah pre tribbers got Jesus coming back more than the Eagles.

LOLZ!

They also got a boat load of seperate ressurections.

I only see one. On the last day.

See: Wheat and tares.

 

[Strangelove]

Nope that would be the first. He literally returns to the earth this time, and destroys the armies of satan.

show me a single passage in scripture, ot or nt, that says Jesus returns from heaven to Earth...terra firma.

 

[Strangelove]

By the way still. You can't dismantal me. You can try all you want. But you can't. My faith is secure. it is sound, and it is founded on literal interpretation of scripture.

So why you have that fancy little link to show people how to dismantal me is kinda odd. But hey. So be it.

I've dismantled you to such a huge degree that you refuse to even debate me anymore.

I have posed questions to you that you cannot answer.

 

[Strangelove]

Thats funny. When some friend of mine were in jerusalem. They were in a store and was asking the owner if he was excited about the temple being rebuilt. The owner was amazed that a chrsitian would believe this. They asked the guy if he ever read daniel. He said daniel is not alowed to be read, nor is it any longer a part of their scripture. And then they gave him the gospel.

premilenialism does not hurt jews. This is again another twist to try to discredit people. I have many jew friends who are saved. they too are looking forward to Christ's return. and sa;lvation of ALl their people. But they do not wait. they give the gospel now.

If its YOUR Gospel that they give then its the WRONG one.

You dont even acknowledge Jesus is King.

You dont even know what the Kingdom of God is.

How can you give the good news?

 

[Strangelove]

Yeah they did. And they also switched to a symbolic interpretation of scripture sop they could get all their "pagan" rites and traditions which they mixed into true christianity believable because a literal interpretation would nto allow it. And this is where ammilenialism came from. It fit in perfectly with their plan and allowd them to further carry out their hate of all things jewsih.

Just like you think I get my faith from scofield. Which I did not by the way. I got it from studying it for 30 years. This is where I believe your belief started. Because your faith demands a symbolic interpretation. If you interpret prophesy literally your faith fails. for only through symbology can a 1000 years NOT be 1000 literal years.

Is God symbolic or is He literal?

You only have these two choices, whats it to be?

 

[Strangelove]

And jerusalem repents and declares jesus is lord. And this is when Jesus said they would see him again.

This is when the prophesy of the dry bones is fulfilled.

This is when daniel 9 is fulfilled. And the "end of sin" has happened for daniels people. Daniel was not praying for the churhc or the gentiles. He was pryaing for HIS PEOPLE.

How are you gonna know when this is fulfilled?

You admit you dont even know who Israel is.

How do you know it hasnt happened already?

 

[Jacob12]

How are you gonna know when this is fulfilled?

You admit you dont even know who Israel is.

How do you know it hasnt happened already?

We know that this hasn't happened yet because Ezekiel 37:25 tells us that "David shall be their prince forever" vs 26 tells us "I will make a covenant of peace with them, it shall be an everlasting covenant" There is no peace now in Israel Jeremiah 23:3,-7 also says that when Israel is gathered vs 6 Judah shall be saved and Israel will dwell safely.

 

[Strangelove]

We know that this hasn't happened yet because Ezekiel 37:25 tells us that "David shall be their prince forever" vs 26 tells us "I will make a covenant of peace with them, it shall be an everlasting covenant" There is no peace now in Israel Jeremiah 23:3,-7 also says that when Israel is gathered vs 6 Judah shall be saved and Israel will dwell safely.

Of course there is peace in Israel. All believers in Jesus Christ have joy and peace in the Holy Ghost. We are Israel.

Jesus reigns on Davids throne right now in heaven.

Judah...and the tribes and even the gentiles have all been brought together under the NEW Covenant.

 

[Jacob12]

Of course there is peace in Israel. All believers in Jesus Christ have joy and peace in the Holy Ghost. We are Israel.

Jesus reigns on Davids throne right now in heaven.

Judah...and the tribes and even the gentiles have all been brought together under the NEW Covenant.

David's throne in heaven? Acts 2:29 says David is dead an buried and his sepulchre is with us to this day. John 3:13 Jesus tells us that no man hath ascended up to heaven except he who cam down from heaven.
You even said a min ago u believed in one resurrection on the last day.
Dan 7:27 "and the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kindom UNDER THE WHOLE HEAVEN"

 

[shroom2]

show me a single passage in scripture, ot or nt, that says Jesus returns from heaven to Earth...terra firma.

Zechariah 14:4) And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives,

 

[Strangelove]

David's throne in heaven? Acts 2:29 says David is dead an buried and his sepulchre is with us to this day. John 3:13 Jesus tells us that no man hath ascended up to heaven except he who cam down from heaven.
You even said a min ago u believed in one resurrection on the last day.
Dan 7:27 "and the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kindom UNDER THE WHOLE HEAVEN"

So whats yer point?

Jesus is the King of Israel. He sits on Davids throne.

Oh you want a physical throne huh?

**sigh**

Kingdom....not......of....this.....world.

 

[Laodicea]

Revelation 17:18
(18) And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

Just one question, Which city was reigning over the kings of the earth when John wrote this?

 

[shroom2]

Still is a he.

Good to know... Sorry

well, if you factor in the MYSTERY ACTIVITY in the future 1,000 years reign, there are technically 4.

What "mystery activity"?

the rapture is the Second Advent & resurrection...no secret snatch where people just disappear.

The second coming is the second coming. The rapture will precede it.

EVERY EYE WILL SEE HIM.

At the second coming, yes.

 

[Strangelove]

Revelation 17:18
(18) And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

Just one question, Which city was reigning over the kings of the earth when John wrote this?

There wasn't one.

There is now....and has been for a very long time.

It's called JERUSALEM, the city where our Lord was crucified.

 

[Laodicea]

There wasn't one.

There is now....and has been for a very long time.

It's called JERUSALEM, the city where our Lord was crucified.

But according to history and prophecy it was Rome

 

[Strangelove]

But according to history and prophecy it was Rome

According to history and Prophecy its Jerusalem.

It even says the CITY WHERE OUR LORD WAS CRUCIFIED.

How can that be Rome?

How does Rome have influence over the kings of the Earth?

Do they control world finance?

The media?

Freemasonry....communism......hate laws (marxist socialism)....the list goes on and on.

The Mother is talmudic judaism.

 

[Laodicea]

According to history and Prophecy its Jerusalem.

It even says the CITY WHERE OUR LORD WAS CRUCIFIED.

How can that be Rome?

How does Rome have influence over the kings of the Earth?

Do they control world finance?

The media?

Freemasonry....communism......hate laws (marxist socialism)....the list goes on and on.

The Mother is talmudic judaism.

Have you read and understood Daniel 2? The kingdom of Iron is the Iron monarchy of Rome

 

[Strangelove]

Have you read and understood Daniel 2? The kingdom of Iron is the Iron monarchy of Rome

So?

That doesnt make Rome the Mother of Harlots.

It just makes her a kingdom spoken of in scripture.

John tells us who the city is, its the city where our Lord was crucified, are you gonna conrinue to ignore that?

He spells it out for you!