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Was Arba, father of Anak, a fallen angel that made Anak a nephillim ? On the other hand didn't Melchisedec carry the eternal priesthood also come from Noah and the same boat as Anak ? In my opinion he was just a normal guy who put God first and preached the same message as Noah did and probably many others did through the years ..The priesthood has no beginning or end and Jesus is our High Priest inside and out .
And our bloodline was/is tainted from the fall of Adam that God Himself ''Jesus'' had to come as Immanuel to redeem us .. And I know what the Word says too .. How could the seed of the woman combine with a fallen angel if her seed would crush the serpents head ? That's a pretty big conflict imo .. Too big to be possible when you think about it..
And our bloodline was/is tainted from the fall of Adam that God Himself ''Jesus'' had to come as Immanuel to redeem us .. And I know what the Word says too .. How could the seed of the woman combine with a fallen angel if her seed would crush the serpents head ? That's a pretty big conflict imo .. Too big to be possible when you think about it..
not really since God already told us in Gen 6:4 that there would be nephilim after that.
Genesis 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that ...
Considering that in Luke 8:31 we see the devils begging the Lord Jesus Christ not to send them into the abyssos, perhaps angels didn’t want to be bound in chains under darkness like those shown in 2 Peter 2.
Not true. the children of Israel saw nephiim:
Numbers 13:33 And there we saw the giants (Hebrew nephilim), the sons of Anak …
Arba was the father of Anak (Josh 15:13).
Genesis 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that ...
Considering that in Luke 8:31 we see the devils begging the Lord Jesus Christ not to send them into the abyssos, perhaps angels didn’t want to be bound in chains under darkness like those shown in 2 Peter 2.
Not true. the children of Israel saw nephiim:
Numbers 13:33 And there we saw the giants (Hebrew nephilim), the sons of Anak …
Arba was the father of Anak (Josh 15:13).
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Was Arba a fallen angel ?
LOL , That's my point the nephilim appear both pre and post flood so kindly show that fallen angels are producing nephilim .. You have nothing but a book of jewish fables to rely on .. There are reports of giants found in buriel mound recent enough to be reported in newspapers in the US .. It does not mean they were fathered by fallen angels , just that they were giants, some as tall as 12 ' or more ..
LOL , That's my point the nephilim appear both pre and post flood so kindly show that fallen angels are producing nephilim .. You have nothing but a book of jewish fables to rely on .. There are reports of giants found in buriel mound recent enough to be reported in newspapers in the US .. It does not mean they were fathered by fallen angels , just that they were giants, some as tall as 12 ' or more ..
And who could call any fallen angel or Satan a son of God to begin with , not me for sure , You ?
5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? This is speaking about Jesus but we can become sons and daughters of God through re-birth .. ''Born Again'' of the Holy Spirit through faith in Jesus ..
5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? This is speaking about Jesus but we can become sons and daughters of God through re-birth .. ''Born Again'' of the Holy Spirit through faith in Jesus ..
There are reports that Mrs Noah was very, very tall and was buried near the village of 8 in Turkey with lots of expensive jewelry .. When word got out it was reported that the fortune was robbed and sold on the black market before they could get it to a museum in turkey .. Jus sayin and they did get her sarcophagus into a museum there it is said .. It's a pretty wild story and I don't necessarily believe it but who knows .. I'd sooner believe that and at least they claim some evidence and I think maybe a giant thumb bone was found in or near the grave ..
apologies ... I misunderstood your Post #640. 
I’m curious, how do you think giants existed? Also, if it states we were made in the image and likeness of elohim why do you think it is an impossibility to procreate with sons of elohim? Don’t say we were made with a spirit like Theos. Perhaps all of the answers are obvious when we actually know what the words mean instead of someone telling us what they mean. Don’t rush your answer. I want you to think it through. What are the other possibilities that there could be when stated by the elohim (a word that means gods, angels, judges, rulers), let us make man in our image and after our own likeness? Then later it states that sons of the elohim saw that the daughters of men were beautiful, and took them as wives who bore them children. These children were mighty men. It’s basic Greek theology. Think back to the ages of people before the flood. Specifically think about how long they waited to have children. They weren’t binge watching Netflix. They just couldn’t have children for 80 years. Why? Now think. Could these first people have been reaching maturity at 100-120 years of age. Now the men after the flood were still 300ish until their lifespans dwindled to 80-100. First, is it fathomable that elohim, heavenly beings (commonly today, extra terrestrials) can have genetic similarities enough to produce children, like it plainly says? Second, is it possible the first humans created to subdue the creatures of the earth were created larger...giants? It never states the offspring were giants, only that they coexisted.
I believe nehilim are the children / descendants of the union.
Before the flood and again after the flood ...
there were nephilim in the earth in those days and also after that when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they (the daughters of men) bare children to them ... — Gen 6:4.
I have not read the book of Enoch.
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Before the flood and again after the flood ...
there were nephilim in the earth in those days and also after that when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they (the daughters of men) bare children to them ... — Gen 6:4.
I have not read the book of Enoch.
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Are you saying angels are not created beings ? I didn't think so .. What is the tallest giant mentioned in the Bible, the KJV that is ? Og the king's bed was over 13 ' so I figure he was about 9-10 ' , Goliath about 9' .. I've seen 7 footers with my own eyes .. I could sit here all day and question with ''what if's'' .. I'm not educated and read poorly on about a mid grade level probably .. I look for tie-ins and scripture proving scripture, not hunting for missing parts that don't fit in or value (jewish or other fables), we are to search the scriptures .. My focus is partly to know the mind of Christ concerning both the Old and New Testaments so I don't care much about consensus .. For some reason you need to think fallen angel are sons of God and they mated with human women , I see more evidence they all must receive permission from God to kill, steal and destroy and idolatry is asking for it . Satan seeks who he may destroy , not every person he comes across or we'd be all gone long ago , a good lesson is in Job about it where Satan acts only with permission and imo is not sovereign any at all .. Do you get the picture why fallen angels mating with women is so out of the question ridiculous to me .. And why would I spend time on chasing such foolishness that leads to nowhere ? Except to give readers and non-believers answers from a point of biblical view that all fits together .. David's mighty men, could they not be considered as godly men of renown, fierce and even giant, even King David , giant in all but stature . Samson ?
Concerning ancient men being older when having sons and daughter ? I believe DNA loses information but never evolves to add information and certainly no evolution of kinds to other kinds .. So other than dramatic changes to earths environment pre-flood to post-flood that may have had impact on longevity , I don't know .. At some point God said a man is given 70 yrs , 80 if you're strong and after that his days are filled with trouble .. That means what it says .. We tend to think in parliamentary procedural terms to keep thing in order , God does not need it, He's God and He never changes , perfect, reliable and true to His every Word and way .. Amen .
Concerning ancient men being older when having sons and daughter ? I believe DNA loses information but never evolves to add information and certainly no evolution of kinds to other kinds .. So other than dramatic changes to earths environment pre-flood to post-flood that may have had impact on longevity , I don't know .. At some point God said a man is given 70 yrs , 80 if you're strong and after that his days are filled with trouble .. That means what it says .. We tend to think in parliamentary procedural terms to keep thing in order , God does not need it, He's God and He never changes , perfect, reliable and true to His every Word and way .. Amen .
In short, you don’t care enough to know what truly happened? That’s fine with me you just seemed to be spending enough time debating the weak Sethite angle to make me think otherwise. I take the OCD approach to Bible study. I fixate on things until it all makes sense. Clearly the fallen angels who left their first estate did not get permission. That is why they are in chains. See, that makes sense. Sons of Seth and daughters of Cain, just doesn’t add up in any intelligent explanation, unless you completely imagine different meanings for the words in scripture. After the flood the lifespan was supposed to be reduced to no more than 120 years. The major dietary change post flood was meat consumption (Gen 9:3). Regardless, like you stated, it’s not a big deal to you. Be blessed, thanks for your response.
Jesus' taught that angels don't marry because angels don't die.
The reason for sex then is that we die.
To not die is natural to spirit it follows that sexual reproduction is not part of the nature God created them with. Angels are incapable of reproducing their kind because they do not need to because they don't die.
The reason for sex then is that we die.
To not die is natural to spirit it follows that sexual reproduction is not part of the nature God created them with. Angels are incapable of reproducing their kind because they do not need to because they don't die.
sons of God came in unto daughters of men and they (daughters of men) bear children unto them (sons of God) — Gen 6:4.
I believe Adam was created in the image and likeness of God as stated in Gen 1:26-27 and in Gen 5:1-2.
I believe the descendants of Adam were begotten in the likeness and image of Adam:
Genesis 5:3 And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image ...
Each succeeding generation is begotten after the image and likeness of their father and mother.
So do you believe both angelic beings co-existed on the earth with descendants of Adam and Eve?
And the angelic beings eventually died off ... or were destroyed in the flood?
I believe Adam was created in the image and likeness of God as stated in Gen 1:26-27 and in Gen 5:1-2.
I believe the descendants of Adam were begotten in the likeness and image of Adam:
Genesis 5:3 And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image ...
Each succeeding generation is begotten after the image and likeness of their father and mother.
So do you believe both angelic beings co-existed on the earth with descendants of Adam and Eve?
And the angelic beings eventually died off ... or were destroyed in the flood?