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mailmandan

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I see a lot of young people getting married these day, "for better or for worse" UNTIL something better comes along. Or so it seems. :unsure:
 

maxwel

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While "research" may reveal that of all divorces initiated, 65% are filed by women, that doesn't mean "65% of divorces are caused by women". Divorce is the result of sinful behaviour by both husbands and wives. In many cases, the husband's ungodly behaviour drives the wife to divorce. In many cases, the wife's ungodly behaviour drives the husband to divorce. Of course "women have a big role to play in marriage; as big as the role men play!
And it doesn't mean 65% of divorces are NOT caused by women.

From that statistic alone, we can't draw many conclusions...
other than it's culturally acceptable for women to initiate the end of their marriage.

However, I do think studies have shown that women now "cheat" at roughly the same rate as men.



Sin seems to be an equal opportunity issue.

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However, I do think studies have shown that women now "cheat" at roughly the same rate as men.

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Ever since World War II, women in large measures have ceased to be ladies and have come to consider themselves equal to men. I believe in chivalry--but I really have a hard time holding the door open for a female that dresses like a male, and often even smell like them.

So it doesn't surprise me that fe-males 'cheat' at roughly the same rate as men.

It is nice to every once in a while see a lady and know that they are still out there.

3-2-1 . . . till someone calls me a misogynist. whatever.
 

Dino246

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Ever since World War II, women in large measures have ceased to be ladies and have come to consider themselves equal to men. I believe in chivalry--but I really have a hard time holding the door open for a female that dresses like a male, and often even smell like them.

So it doesn't surprise me that fe-males 'cheat' at roughly the same rate as men.

It is nice to every once in a while see a lady and know that they are still out there.

3-2-1 . . . till someone calls me a misogynist. whatever.
"Women have ceased to be ladies and have come to consider themselves equal to men." So, ladies aren't equal to men?

Chivalry is unbiblical. I hold doors for other humans.
 

CharliRenee

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Is it? My wife and I were married for 42 years and would still be going if the Lord had not called her home a year and a half ago because of ovarian cancer.

So, kindly stuff you generalization . . . thanks.
Sorry for your loss, how painful.
 

CharliRenee

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While "research" may reveal that of all divorces initiated, 65% are filed by women, that doesn't mean "65% of divorces are caused by women". Divorce is the result of sinful behaviour by both husbands and wives. In many cases, the husband's ungodly behaviour drives the wife to divorce. In many cases, the wife's ungodly behaviour drives the husband to divorce. Of course "women have a big role to play in marriage; as big as the role men play!

Let's not turn this subject into a vehicle for sexism.
Thank you, soooo very much
 
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Sorry for your loss, how painful.
Thank you for your kind condolence. Amen! I miss her terribly, Even today I was peeling one of those tiny mandarin oranges and was careful to peel it so that it remains intact and you can fold it back into the shape of the fruit. I used to do that and show her and she would just shake her head and smile. Every time I do that the tears somehow find a way to leak a little bit. I'm often reminded by the silliest things and there goes that darn faucet again. I'll never stop missing her in this life . . . but . . .

. . . we "sorrow not, even as others which have no hope" (I Thessalonians 4:13).

Because I know where she is and she is waiting there to see me again, in whatever capacity the Lord has for us.

Next week I will have been saved 42 years and we were married for 42 years. It took us a couple of years to get right with God.

I hope that your marriage is just as blessed . . . although we wouldn't mind if the rapture happens.
 
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In an attempt to explain love, or at least the emotion sensed when specific chemicals released, it is a response to predictable stimuli. It isn’t magical or romantic. It is hormonal and mechanical.

Our desire to partner up and reproduce is embedded within our primal operating system. It’s only made complicated because of the brainwashing of society. There are natural roles in every part of the animal kingdom. Ours is the only one to deviate. How can you have a proper marriage when the role of a husband and father, or wife and mother are so blurred. Satisfaction is attained only when certain preprogrammed criteria are met. What most men want in a lifetime partner, are not characteristics most modern women aspire to possess. Same vice versa. Conflict is inevitable and happiness is unachievable. You may sooner see a leprechaun riding a unicorn, before you cross paths with a perfect couple or perfect family.
 

jameen

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Nowadays, people divorce because there's no more love in the marriage.

First of all, no matter what view one takes on the issue of divorce, it is important to remember Malachi 2:16: “I hate divorce, says the LORD God of Israel.” According to the Bible, marriage is a lifetime commitment. “So they are no longer two, but one.

The controversy over whether divorce and remarriage is allowed according to the Bible revolves primarily around Jesus’ words in Matthew 5:32 and 19:9. The phrase “except for marital unfaithfulness” is the only thing in Scripture that possibly gives God’s permission for divorce and remarriage.

Those that divorced because of lack of respect or love in the marriage, are they committing sin?
I think if the reason is lack of love or respect, it is time to have a heart to heart talk between couples. they must inform each other their grievances, short comings etc. until they have to decide if they need to separate.

but if you're a Christian, your love for God will help you that your love for your husband or wife will not fade or cool immediately because you know that God is love and you must maintain the love in your heart.
 

maxwel

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"Women have ceased to be ladies and have come to consider themselves equal to men." So, ladies aren't equal to men?

Chivalry is unbiblical. I hold doors for other humans.


The Equivocation of Equal



Hey Dino.

1. Thanks for the welcome back. I hope you've been doing well.

2. Uhhh... on that whole "women are equal to men" thing... a few quick thoughts:
a. When discussing social issues, particular buzzwords like "equal" are generally equivocated into oblivion.
b. This is often done by people with bad intentions, quite intentionally, until all the people with good intentions (like the people here) are simply bogged down, muddled, in all the common misuses of the buzzword.

3. What does all that mean?

4. It means the word "equal" is thrown around, and equivocated, till no one is sure what anyone is talking about.

a. In math, science, logic, and most other fields, the word "equal" means "identical."
b. Uh oh.
c. Things with "equal" lengths have "identical" lengths, and propositions with equal meanings have identical meanings, and people with equal rights have identical rights.
d. The word equal means identical... in regard to whatever specific quality is being referenced.

5. So, if you want to ask the question, "Aren't women equal to men?", I would suggest we plug in a substitute word which is more clear, and which is not equivocated in the realm of social issues. Let's substitute the word "identical".
- As soon as we substitute a CLEAR word, for a word which is commonly equivocated, this WHOLE topic suddenly clears up.

6. So, my question, using a more clear word (bypassing all the equivocation) is to say, "Are women IDENTICAL to men?"

7. What is our answer to that?

8. Our answer would be women ARE identical to men in some ways, but are NOT identical to men in other ways.
a. If this is the case, and it is, then it's very easy for people to have a misunderstanding over this word EQUAL.
b. When we remove the word equal, and replace it with the word identical... everything clears up.

9. And THAT is the solution to this whole argument that we just stepped in.
a. We simply backup, use a word which is NOT a social buzzword, and which is NOT commonly equivocated.
b. And then, by using some linguistic precision, we can examine the issue for what it is, WITHOUT being sidetracked by social and political baggage, and by intentional obfuscation.


Conclusion:
1. When someone asks me if men and women are equal, I start by disallowing the use of a word that is commonly equivocated.
2. I then say "equal means identical, so do YOU think men and women are identical?"
3. As soon as we change the language, everyone is forced to discuss the issue fairly, intelligently, and with proper precision... and it clears itself up.

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Dino246

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I agree, Maxwel. I questioned BBB's use of the term; if and when he responds we can find a better term for the context to which he was referring.
 

p_rehbein

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Takes two to ruin a marriage......

Takes THREE to make a marriage......

Y'all ever figure out who that Third Person is, and your marriage might just work!
 
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Takes two to ruin a marriage......

Takes THREE to make a marriage......

Y'all ever figure out who that Third Person is, and your marriage might just work!
Obviously the child...duhhh.
 
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I think if the reason is lack of love or respect, it is time to have a heart to heart talk between couples. they must inform each other their grievances, short comings etc. until they have to decide if they need to separate.

but if you're a Christian, your love for God will help you that your love for your husband or wife will not fade or cool immediately because you know that God is love and you must maintain the love in your heart.
I wish it was that simple, couples nowadays lack patience and tolerance, they claim the world is changing, it's the computer age where everything decision must be taken as fast as possible without even thinking deep about it, but the Bible which form the bases of life has never changed, it remains the same till Jesus comes.
 
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I see a lot of young people getting married these day, "for better or for worse" UNTIL something better comes along. Or so it seems. :unsure:
Thereafter, divorce case, is it a sin, that's my question
 

Lillywolf

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Nowadays, people divorce because there's no more love in the marriage.

First of all, no matter what view one takes on the issue of divorce, it is important to remember Malachi 2:16: “I hate divorce, says the LORD God of Israel.” According to the Bible, marriage is a lifetime commitment. “So they are no longer two, but one.

The controversy over whether divorce and remarriage is allowed according to the Bible revolves primarily around Jesus’ words in Matthew 5:32 and 19:9. The phrase “except for marital unfaithfulness” is the only thing in Scripture that possibly gives God’s permission for divorce and remarriage.

Those that divorced because of lack of respect or love in the marriage, are they committing sin?
No.
Remember the scripture concerning our repentance and regeneration as a new creation in Christ?God remembers our sins no more. Going forward we are that new creation under God's grace and in Christ. We are not what we once were; sinner, by God's definition, committing sin, by God's definition.
All is under the blood of Christ and washed away.

Proverbs 25:24"It is better to live in a corner of the housetop than in a house shared with a quarrelsome wife." And that would be vice versa.

God forgives. What if we are suppose to divorce because our horrific marriage at this point is proof our thoughts chose that spouse for us. And that the eternal relationship God had in mind for marriage is not possible in those circumstances. Wouldn't that tell us it isn't God who created that union. It was us and our ego and pride?
If we stick with it and the marriage only gets worse, is that God's will for us? Don't divorce because God may get mad?Because he hates divorce?
Remember the scripture. Those whom God hath joined together.....Matthew 19:6

I think, and as a married woman, the marker in a marriage so as to realize it isn't God that joined the two is when the relationship is like you describe. Loveless. And other factors too. Like cruelty, abuse. That of physical, emotional/verbal/mental. Adultery, etc...