I'm not seeing Titus 2:11-13 as saying that we need to have become saved first, then we will bring forth good works as the result, but as describing the content of God's gift of salvation as being trained to do those works.
Read further down to 2:14. It informs us there, that those for whom He gave Himself - those whom He redeemed (saved) - were redeemed from "all iniquity" (sin), through which redeeming, Christ makes those whom He saves to become "zealous" (or filled with a burning zeal) to perform good works' ; that is, good works can only come as a result of, and from, redemption (or salvation) by Christ - it cannot come by man. Based upon that, we can see that to make one zealous for good works, they must first have been saved by Christ, however, those good works are good only according to God's standards, not by man's.
[Tit 2:14 KJV] 14 Who gave himself for us,
that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and
purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
The word used means "trained", "educated", "taught", or "instructed", so it clearly involves us participating being taught the experience of doing those works. Trying to remove our involvement from our salvation misunderstands the content of what God's gift of salvation is
No, if given as a gift, we can have absolutely no participation in our receiving salvation, otherwise, it wouldn't be a gift.
Look again at the verses I posted previously. I'll post again here:
[Tit 3:4-6 KJV]
4 But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared,
5
Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
6 Which
he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;
Do you see the "not by works of righteousness which we have done but according to his mercy he saved us", part?
That clearly tells us salvation is by/from God alone from its beginning to its end, with no participation by man either needed nor permitted.
For example, honoring our parents through faith in Jesus being intrinsically part of concept of him saving us from not honoring our parents, which God is teaching us to experience, but still intrinsically involves us participating in having that experience.
As with all attributes of salvation, the above comes from it, but it is not to it.
QUOTE="Soyeong, post: 5168594, member: 326808"]I agree that nothing that we do results in earning our salvation primarily because God's law was never given as a way of earning our salvation even through perfect obedience (Romans 4:1-5), so that was never the goal of why we should obey it.[/QUOTE]
You're saying that you agree there is nothing whatsoever a man can do to contribute to his salvation - that it is given
solely as a gift of God?