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Some favorite scriptures ...

Eph 6:10,
Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.

Eph 6:11,
Put on the whole armor of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

Eph 6:12,
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Eph 6:13,
Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

Eph 6:14,
Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;

Eph 6:15,
And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;

Eph 6:16,
Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.

Eph 6:17,
And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

Eph 6:18,
Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints

God bless
 
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Where was your faith? If you had true faith you would not have to worry about doing good works, they would be an automatic byproduct. It would be your new natural state as a new creature,
deception came because some, fail to prove , there own reseasoning, and without a foundation, is false ,

when the wind blows , that house can not stand.
 

Cee

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I love this Scripture, notice it is truth that is our armor. It is everything Christ is and has given us.

Some favorite scriptures ...

Eph 6:10,
Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.

Eph 6:11,
Put on the whole armor of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

Eph 6:12,
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Eph 6:13,
Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

Eph 6:14,
Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;

Eph 6:15,
And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;

Eph 6:16,
Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.

Eph 6:17,
And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

Eph 6:18,
Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints

God bless
 
Jan 27, 2013
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Some favorite scriptures ...

Eph 6:10,
Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.

Eph 6:11,
Put on the whole armor of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

Eph 6:12,
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Eph 6:13,
Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

Eph 6:14,
Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;

Eph 6:15,
And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;

Eph 6:16,
Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.

Eph 6:17,
And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

Eph 6:18,
Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints

God bless
god bless you, if god, never gave us a bible, we could not see, how easy it is to copy and paste , and be a slow coach. just like you.
 
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I love this Scripture, notice it is truth that is our armor. It is everything Christ is and has given us.
Absolutely, I like the first scripture as well ... in the might of His Power. These scriptures show us how God wants us to follow him:) The battle is not with flesh and blood even though sometimes it may seem that way. Things are not always as they seem.


God bless
 
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14 For when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law.Romans 2: God's Righteous Judgment

repent of a law, you were never given.

beware of other places,in the bible like act 15, and acts 10, that project blindness to a law, your repent from.
 
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Absolutely, I like the first scripture as well ... in the might of His Power. These scriptures show us how God wants us to follow him:) The battle is not with flesh and blood even though sometimes it may seem that way. Things are not always as they seem.


God bless
you have no power , what part of cut off, do you not understand.

Galatians 5: Christ Has Set Us Free
1 For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, and do not submit again to a yoke of slavery.
2 Look: I, Paul, say to you that if you accept circumcision, Christ will be of no advantage to you.3 I testify again to every man who accepts circumcision that he is obligated to keep the whole law.4 You are severed from Christ, you who would be justified by the law; you have fallen away from graceGalatians 5: Christ Has Set Us Free

now take it up with the law of your land.
 
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I love this Scripture, notice it is truth that is our armor. It is everything Christ is and has given us.
And the double emphasis upon the completeness of the armor just to be able to stand your ground......another interesting concept....Paul uses the analogy of Roman armor of the time....nothing on the BACK because we are to hold our ground and not cut and run....if a Roman soldier broke rank to flee his own men were to cut him down.........
 

Cee

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Interesting, I also think Paul wasn't necessarily only talking singularly either, but to the group as a whole. So it's kinda like, everyone stand together, in faith together, in truth together, praying in the spirit together... remember what Christ did and does for you together.

And the double emphasis upon the completeness of the armor just to be able to stand your ground......another interesting concept....Paul uses the analogy of Roman armor of the time....nothing on the BACK because we are to hold our ground and not cut and run....if a Roman soldier broke rank to flee his own men were to cut him down.........
 
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And the double emphasis upon the completeness of the armor just to be able to stand your ground......another interesting concept....Paul uses the analogy of Roman armor of the time....nothing on the BACK because we are to hold our ground and not cut and run....if a Roman soldier broke rank to flee his own men were to cut him down.........
Phalanx | Define Phalanx at Dictionary.com

(in ancient Greece) a group of heavily armed infantry formed in ranks and files close and deep, with shields joined and long spears overlapping.
And interesting fact is that the Phalanx was one of the strongest Roman military formation where shield overlaps to form a protective wall.

What I found fascinating is your shield didn't protect you but the person next to you and you had to trust your comrades to do what they are suppose to. Just as they trust you to stand and protect them.
 
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Interesting, I also think Paul wasn't necessarily only talking singularly either, but to the group as a whole. So it's kinda like, everyone stand together, in faith together, in truth together, praying in the spirit together... remember what Christ did and does for you together.
AMEN.......rank and file brother.......!
 
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any fool can draw a circle with a contractor ,when did that make me picasso,

free hand or personal relationship , when did that depends on proof .
 
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AMEN.......rank and file brother.......!
opinion can not depend on, repent because a saviour save you. no matter, how many times you post it.

when did merited faviour ask for a saviour, yet forget his last posts, that call him a lair or naive.


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rank the dictionary meaning to .........................................................................................................................

who paid for the suit you ware.
 
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no......................................................................

can you smell air, with money in your pocket.
The air itself no, but if the air is scented with something such as a cedar tree, you could make the case you can smell the air. I will not have money in my pocket, like hardly ever so the overall answer to your question is "No" as far as it relates to me personally. Good talk.
 
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Not possible for our world to be created n 6 days... If the book of enoch has no right in the bible then we may as well chuck out genesis as there is absolutely no way God made this earth in 6 days 4300 years ago,,, someone has got that wrong but they have got it right that we where created by God..

Stars give birth to stars and stars give birth to plannets... the earth is much older...accurate dating of objects upto 50,000 years always come back verry accurate even old swords and old metals always come back accurate within 4 thosands years they allways come back witht he same numbers...

Now just because i believe the world took longer than 6 days to form does not mean the bible is a lie... no it just means it has information in there from the wrong source. Scientist do not all seek to prove the bible wrong they seek to know the truth..

Genesis is not a book that lies its just a book that give miss information as it was written befor our knowledge had evolved..

scientist do not make the bible out to be a lie.. no no no they only comfirm that such perfection can only be created...

Greetings Jim....the book of Enoch is fables bringing about spiritual trauma to the unlearned....it was written by several authors beginning about 700 years ago, and contradicts the bible severely....stay with scripture and depart from the books of men..........be blessed
 
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Actually, I see her being harassed and provoked by some very arrogant bullies. No names mentioned. I've meant to PM her to remind her she's dealing with demons that are being riled up in various people who post here. I've done more than a little 'cold call' style evangelizing and I'm well acquainted of what it looks and sounds like when a demon gets stirred up in a person to whom you're talking to about the things of God. And folks, she ain't one of them. It's the bullies in these on-line forums that are entertaining demons. Bullies who won't discuss doctrine but are here to forcefully press what they insist you are to only believe through the intimidation of determined, dogmatic rhetoric, and suppression of your right to speak.
Agree Phart,,,,,,,, may you be blessed in your works always..........
 
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Greetings Jim....the book of Enoch is fables bringing about spiritual trauma to the unlearned....it was written by several authors beginning about 700 years ago, and contradicts the bible severely....stay with scripture and depart from the books of men..........be blessed
Jude quoted from the book of Enoch....you do know that, right?