It is sad to see persons deceived such as PJW and the other PJ who were, imo, one in the same. It is my personal belief that it was PJ again, and he came back in, in full force to declare his sinless perfection.
It is also of note that there has been, to my recollection, no sighting of jimbo__. At times he posted with perfect typing just like PJ, while at other times the seemingly forced typos ruled his postings. He must have forgot to fake it at some points? Anyhow, several called him on it and thought they were also one in the same.
Sad to see deceived persons and hopefully they will come to repentance. It is always interesting when the "new ones" come along right after "others" are put in "banned camp" that they start off where the other had left off.
Good to see the stance for the one true Gospel in spite of the workers!
I don’t think they are the same people. I think they are poles apart.
PJ to me never pushed sinless perfection, his issue was what he perceived to be hyper-grace, perceived change was not needed, not confession of sin to be forgiven.
In fact he spoke against the sinless lot when I posted issues I struggled with. He even pm me. Jimbo was one of those people who attacked me and ridiculed me.
The problem for PJ I think was the above but also at times he didn’t articulate what he was saying and was very analytical in his response. He also found it very distressing that people were condeming him to hell, or that is what he perceived.
Jimbo has been back recently. He posted a thread “The Holy Spirit” and over the last couple of weeks he has made a couple of posts on that thread.
With regards to PJW, that is a totally different story.
This person had no wish to discuss and his only purpose was to condemn.
Even with his belief with sinless perfection he exalted himself and condemned and despised others who didn’t agree.
I almost stepped back because I started to get angry with him and that started to come accross.
But then my focused changed because I realised there were others who were struggling with what he was saying.
Like Rosemary above.
Thats why I told him I would come against it all the time he was posting, but hopefully changing my approach.
He deserved his ban.
Others who have been banned I don’t necessarily agree with the ban.
I think what I am trying say concerning PJW and the likes is sometimes we need to put aside ourselves with what we know to be the truth and stop responding or ignore them.
We need to stand firm and come against such people so that those we know may struggle with the stuff being said do not shrink back and are not caused distress.
Standing firm is loving those we know who want to grow in Jesus.
Yes it is sad to see deceived people and we should come against and anyone who preaches against salvation is by faith and making Jesus our Lord.
How we walk after that is good to discuss.
The problem with PJW is that he made himself is own Lord and confessed his faith in himself.