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I have to disagree with you here. Our adversary is not our own lower nature.
As believers are old nature/self has been been crucified with Christ and we are partakers in the nature of God
2 Peter 1:4
by which he has granted to us his precious and very great promises, so that through them you may become partakers of the divine nature, having escaped from the corruption that is in the world because of sinful desire.
You ask a question that you feel no one can answer.
Can I suggest you post your thoughts concerning the question so we know where you are coming from.
As believers are old nature/self has been been crucified with Christ and we are partakers in the nature of God
2 Peter 1:4
by which he has granted to us his precious and very great promises, so that through them you may become partakers of the divine nature, having escaped from the corruption that is in the world because of sinful desire.
You ask a question that you feel no one can answer.
Can I suggest you post your thoughts concerning the question so we know where you are coming from.
Hi Blue,
If we go by what you said above, we'd almost be saying that God created Satan. Didn't He know that Lucifer would fall?
God knows the future, right?
Also, there are Christians who don't believe satan exists.
There are Christians who don't believe hell exists.
There are Christians who believe everyone will be saved. (Universalism)
There are Christians who believe a person will go to hell but only for an instant and then disappear. (Annihalism)
These are mistakes, for sure. But we cannot say that these people are not Christian or born again.
All one needs to be a Christian is:
Belief in the Trinity
That Jesus is the Christ
And the Son of God
That He died for our sins
That He was resurrected
That's it.
If we go by what you said above, we'd almost be saying that God created Satan. Didn't He know that Lucifer would fall?
God knows the future, right?
Also, there are Christians who don't believe satan exists.
There are Christians who don't believe hell exists.
There are Christians who believe everyone will be saved. (Universalism)
There are Christians who believe a person will go to hell but only for an instant and then disappear. (Annihalism)
These are mistakes, for sure. But we cannot say that these people are not Christian or born again.
All one needs to be a Christian is:
Belief in the Trinity
That Jesus is the Christ
And the Son of God
That He died for our sins
That He was resurrected
That's it.
Blue the manifestations didn't come to fight satan but spiritual wickedness of each individual. It's like this. You can make light but not darkness. Darkness is an absence of light, right? So is the devil the absence of Godly characters or virtues but not a conscious being. Am I making sense? God don't make mistake. There's no time in the spirit realm. So God would have seen Lucifers end before his beginning. This whole misunderstanding comes out of us trying to idealize the spirit realm like that of ours. So you see where that story falls short of convincing common sense? God is perfect and whatever perfect can not produce imperfection. You higherstand now?
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The old testament saints looked forward to the promise of the cross and we look backwards to the fulfillme,t of what Jesus did upon the cross.
Without His death,, ressurcetion and ascension into Heaven. There would be no remission of sins because the blood would not have been placed upon the Heavenly altar.
Why do you believe Jesus had to die on the cross?
Without His death,, ressurcetion and ascension into Heaven. There would be no remission of sins because the blood would not have been placed upon the Heavenly altar.
Why do you believe Jesus had to die on the cross?
Sorry but you aren't making a single lick of sense.. God created Lucifer, knowing what his fate would be. Lucifer was essential to God's plan for the world.. Lucifer has been God's adversary since the time he rebelled in heaven, up until now. By your reasoning, there is no need for US to exist, but here we are. 