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I did indeed say that to you, because you told a battered wife to stay with her husband. Having been physically abused myself, that is the WORST thing you could've told that woman. For all we know, she probably went back and he killed her. :/ Anyhoo, this thread isn't about that issue.
Calling people names ain't gonna bring them to Christ. Nor is dismissing them as nutcases, psychopaths, or schizophrenics..
Calling people names ain't gonna bring them to Christ. Nor is dismissing them as nutcases, psychopaths, or schizophrenics..
I did not call him what you say I have. My point is after spending 5 years learningtheir way of thinking, I understand how important love and morality is, and how this is
Jesus message to all of us. The west and individualism is also nuts, but in a different
way, where your own conscience dictates behaviour.
And if you want to call me an islamic nutcase go ahead. Some christian groups who
kill adulterers, homosexuals, murders with no empathy or care, come very close to
a similar way of thinking. That is partly our inheritence in the faith, though many do
not realise it. If you were poor it was Gods judgement on you, so to the work house
you go, and lazy good for nothings deserve all they get.
This is hard hearted judgementalism, which the far right have used for centuries.
You could argue the crusades were equivalent to the suicide bombers approach, go on
a crusade, go automatically to heaven if you die.
So the whole game is about exploration, and understanding far too easily we go from innocents
to active participants of injustice.
The problem is blue, communication is often a good strategy.
And secondly, the whole exchange was probably fake. But my point is really you jump
to conclusions before the facts are understood. And you are very quick to be judgemental.
What I have learnt in life, is probably everything you do will have little effect on another,
but until you try you will never know. Jesus calls us to stop staying on the fence, and just
commit to walking in His ways, empowered by His love.
Maybe people have lived too sheltered a life, and life is not been brutal enough, we still
think this are unfair, rather than, thank God He gives us blessings. For centuries this was
what we all would face, loss of everyone around us and maybe we would make it into adult
hood, and then maybe to old age, but most did not. I know I have lived such a privileged
life I praise God for His blessings each day, and desire to bring glory to His name.
And secondly, the whole exchange was probably fake. But my point is really you jump
to conclusions before the facts are understood. And you are very quick to be judgemental.
What I have learnt in life, is probably everything you do will have little effect on another,
but until you try you will never know. Jesus calls us to stop staying on the fence, and just
commit to walking in His ways, empowered by His love.
Maybe people have lived too sheltered a life, and life is not been brutal enough, we still
think this are unfair, rather than, thank God He gives us blessings. For centuries this was
what we all would face, loss of everyone around us and maybe we would make it into adult
hood, and then maybe to old age, but most did not. I know I have lived such a privileged
life I praise God for His blessings each day, and desire to bring glory to His name.
Just because you believe that Christians no longer sin, and that Dcon may have a different view on that, doesn't mean he's a nutcase. One trip to the Family forum PROVES that Christians DO STILL SIN. Of course we do still sin, we're human and we're in a fallen world.. And God already knows we'll stumble and fall..
I did not call him what you say I have. My point is after spending 5 years learning
their way of thinking, I understand how important love and morality is, and how this is
Jesus message to all of us. The west and individualism is also nuts, but in a different
way, where your own conscience dictates behaviour.
And if you want to call me an islamic nutcase go ahead. Some christian groups who
kill adulterers, homosexuals, murders with no empathy or care, come very close to
a similar way of thinking. That is partly our inheritence in the faith, though many do
not realise it. If you were poor it was Gods judgement on you, so to the work house
you go, and lazy good for nothings deserve all they get.
This is hard hearted judgementalism, which the far right have used for centuries.
You could argue the crusades were equivalent to the suicide bombers approach, go on
a crusade, go automatically to heaven if you die.
So the whole game is about exploration, and understanding far too easily we go from innocents
to active participants of injustice.
I did not call him what you say I have. My point is after spending 5 years learningtheir way of thinking, I understand how important love and morality is, and how this is
Jesus message to all of us. The west and individualism is also nuts, but in a different
way, where your own conscience dictates behaviour.
And if you want to call me an islamic nutcase go ahead. Some christian groups who
kill adulterers, homosexuals, murders with no empathy or care, come very close to
a similar way of thinking. That is partly our inheritence in the faith, though many do
not realise it. If you were poor it was Gods judgement on you, so to the work house
you go, and lazy good for nothings deserve all they get.
This is hard hearted judgementalism, which the far right have used for centuries.
You could argue the crusades were equivalent to the suicide bombers approach, go on
a crusade, go automatically to heaven if you die.
So the whole game is about exploration, and understanding far too easily we go from innocents
to active participants of injustice.
Lol. This is not loosing ones temper, this is just showing where people are really at.
What I do know is the elect know what I am talking about, the rest is irrelevant.
Sounds a bit tough, but cc has taught me, the emotional reality to come to Christ with
sets you for life, into judgement. A few change emphasis, but it is actually only a small
minority.
What I do know is the elect know what I am talking about, the rest is irrelevant.
Sounds a bit tough, but cc has taught me, the emotional reality to come to Christ with
sets you for life, into judgement. A few change emphasis, but it is actually only a small
minority.
Blue - I do not believe this. I believe we are washed clean so we have the potential to
stay clean, undefiled. This is a big difference. And it is our fellowship in Christ that keeps
us true and walking in the Spirit. It is the unbelief of many that robs them of their inheritence
in Christ and the power of the Holy Spirit.
Ananais and Sapharia demonstrate what walking in the Spirit is and what the consequences of
lying to the Spirit results in. The community lived as one, in mind and spirit. Yet this is impossible
some claim. Funny how scripture testifies against them.
stay clean, undefiled. This is a big difference. And it is our fellowship in Christ that keeps
us true and walking in the Spirit. It is the unbelief of many that robs them of their inheritence
in Christ and the power of the Holy Spirit.
Ananais and Sapharia demonstrate what walking in the Spirit is and what the consequences of
lying to the Spirit results in. The community lived as one, in mind and spirit. Yet this is impossible
some claim. Funny how scripture testifies against them.
If I was feeling fine and didn't have a headache and if I felt well, I'd just tell this clown to F off and go away. He don't have a right to diss DC, he's a good honourable man with good morals and is a friendly good person, and has served in the military as a marine. What has this english clown ever done? The toughest fight this clown's had is probably blowing some bubbles. He's just a clown, he has no right to diss DC. But stuff him, he's just an idiot.
I agree, communication IS good. But whether it was fake or not, communication between the abused and the abuser, was not good advice. Unfortunately, communication on this site, gets twisted and turned around. And instead of explaining or clarifying, people get huffy and deflect.
But whether it was fake or not, communication between the abused and the abuser, was not good advice. Unfortunately, communication on this site, gets twisted and turned around. And instead of explaining or clarifying, people get huffy and deflect.
Immature I know, but, just sad really. Sad that it has come this low.
I agree, communication IS good. But whether it was fake or not, communication between the abused and the abuser, was not good advice. Unfortunately, communication on this site, gets twisted and turned around. And instead of explaining or clarifying, people get huffy and deflect.
But whether it was fake or not, communication between the abused and the abuser, was not good advice. Unfortunately, communication on this site, gets twisted and turned around. And instead of explaining or clarifying, people get huffy and deflect.
I got upset, I am sorry, or that hurt or whatever. It is crazy people getting hurt, spending months
ruminating about it, trying to get revenge etc, when in Christ we can just be open.
I guarantee my use of words will upset someone, all the time. My kids are annoyed at my
attitudes in the morning if I am happy and chirpy etc. Does not make me wrong and them
right, it is as it is. But holding grudges, seeking revenge, causing damage is not of the Lord
and hurts the person trying it more than the target. Most people I know who go down this road
end up falling away, because it is always more involved, and deeper things need resolving.
Anyway, God bless you all, I hope however you are you find rest in Christ and security in
knowing He loves you and empowers you to walk in love, Amen
sOOOOOO lol i couldnt keep away I think God told me that maybe theese people need some help. and so i prayed and i got an answer back saying even Jesus fed crumbs to the dogs.
So anyways im not saying people here are dogs but what i am saying is...dogs are wonderful creatures. now that said i think maybe is hould help suppor this site and make a donations to helps the dogs out..
an maybe i may get some more help soon..Coz God blesses those richly who make a donation with a blessing to know that this site is bound to be attacked by the enemy daily coz sombody is doing something right for God,,,, the enemy sees that and tries to take it all away by allowing bad doctrins...The one that takes evil from Good..
[h=1][/h] [SUP]21 [/SUP]Do not be overcome and conquered by evil, but overcome evil with good.
20Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness; Who substitute bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter! 21Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes And clever in their own sight!…
woe to those who see bad in good works coz theres no such denomiation as a works based salvationist..
So anyways im not saying people here are dogs but what i am saying is...dogs are wonderful creatures. now that said i think maybe is hould help suppor this site and make a donations to helps the dogs out..
an maybe i may get some more help soon..Coz God blesses those richly who make a donation with a blessing to know that this site is bound to be attacked by the enemy daily coz sombody is doing something right for God,,,, the enemy sees that and tries to take it all away by allowing bad doctrins...The one that takes evil from Good..
[h=1][/h] [SUP]21 [/SUP]Do not be overcome and conquered by evil, but overcome evil with good.
20Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness; Who substitute bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter! 21Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes And clever in their own sight!…
woe to those who see bad in good works coz theres no such denomiation as a works based salvationist..
That's the problem. People become too sensitive these days and they go bananas. I usually keep a cool head except like tonight when I have a headache and just am not in the mood. But too many people are ready to jump into insults and twist stuff. It's just our society being over-sensetive.
But there is also like.. spelling mistakes, like when people are angry and write in frustration, they write really fast and often do spelling mistakes to be edited too.
But there is also like.. spelling mistakes, like when people are angry and write in frustration, they write really fast and often do spelling mistakes to be edited too.
Ok young man. I have worked with guys like you, and they always jump to quickly to
conclusions. What rights do I need to say what I say? The truth.
It is up to you to answer the truth, and then show me my mistake. If you cannot all
you are showing is personal loyalty, which is commendable, but not relevant in the world
of spiritual warfare.
Jesus did not come to bring peace but a sword. Dc represents a very provocative and judgemental
theology which holds itself as God over others, and is willing to say some are working for satan and
leading people to hell.
You do not need to be on the receiving end of this kind of abuse, to realise where someone stands.
But maybe you stand with him. The problem is most of these guys are truly disturbed people
who have resolved to abandon morality because they cannot live with themselves, and live in
cloud cockoo land where Christ forgives them no matter how they behave.
conclusions. What rights do I need to say what I say? The truth.
It is up to you to answer the truth, and then show me my mistake. If you cannot all
you are showing is personal loyalty, which is commendable, but not relevant in the world
of spiritual warfare.
Jesus did not come to bring peace but a sword. Dc represents a very provocative and judgemental
theology which holds itself as God over others, and is willing to say some are working for satan and
leading people to hell.
You do not need to be on the receiving end of this kind of abuse, to realise where someone stands.
But maybe you stand with him. The problem is most of these guys are truly disturbed people
who have resolved to abandon morality because they cannot live with themselves, and live in
cloud cockoo land where Christ forgives them no matter how they behave.
Okay, so how do you explain the addictions to sex, porn, masturbation and adultery? And please don't say that it's because they aren't true Christians. That's just an assumption and may not be true of all of them.. We ARE still tempted to sin, and quite often, many of us do. In fact, I sinned just yesterday.. lol
Blue - a good question.
Do you know the difference between sex and intimacy? Or love and desire?
People are made of drives. The last drive to go is sex. And sex is a cruel master, it
will make you its slave, and like all drugs, it will get you higher and higher until you have
lost everything.
So the answer is knowing in Jesus you are loved, through the cross, deeper than anyone
can ever love another human, to the ends of time and existance. But this love can only
work if you open the door and surrender all to Him. No limits, not restrictions, no ifs or
buts, just submission.
Who is my Father? God. My parents were his representatives who sinned and failed in
their weakness and humanity, but God is the perfect provider, and I can love my parents
to whom I owe my existance, because I know God loves me. Learning to walk in this
intimacy changes my needs, the attraction of sex, pornography etc. so I begin to know
real life in Christ, joy morning noon and night, a peace that passes understanding, a praise
that never ends, a joy that lifts my heart to the heavens, times where I never want to come
down.
So all the extreme behaviours are a lack of knowing Christ as a reality in our hearts.
And the first step is always the same, submission and admiting need, in repentance and
faith.
Do you know the difference between sex and intimacy? Or love and desire?
People are made of drives. The last drive to go is sex. And sex is a cruel master, it
will make you its slave, and like all drugs, it will get you higher and higher until you have
lost everything.
So the answer is knowing in Jesus you are loved, through the cross, deeper than anyone
can ever love another human, to the ends of time and existance. But this love can only
work if you open the door and surrender all to Him. No limits, not restrictions, no ifs or
buts, just submission.
Who is my Father? God. My parents were his representatives who sinned and failed in
their weakness and humanity, but God is the perfect provider, and I can love my parents
to whom I owe my existance, because I know God loves me. Learning to walk in this
intimacy changes my needs, the attraction of sex, pornography etc. so I begin to know
real life in Christ, joy morning noon and night, a peace that passes understanding, a praise
that never ends, a joy that lifts my heart to the heavens, times where I never want to come
down.
So all the extreme behaviours are a lack of knowing Christ as a reality in our hearts.
And the first step is always the same, submission and admiting need, in repentance and
faith.