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Let me help you Peter.

You can help them by.........

Wait for it......


Are you ready???


NOT CALLING THEM A NUTCASE!

Then maybe clarifying what you mean instead of getting offended when folks don't understand what you are saying.
AND or a PSYCOPATH......he has crossed the line.
 
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Peter, I am gonna need some time in prayer before talking to you right now I want to hear what dcon, g777 and EG have to say.

If they would be so kind.

I know only old members read a 165page long thread.

Most newbies will avoid this one.
 
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Dcon, can you do me a favor and set the record straight?

PeterJens claims to be talking for you in another thread:

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Hmmm I might have been mistaken but I thought all three of you thought I was a sister in Christ.

I know I annoy EG some days, but I don't recall him, you or G777 calling me a hypocrite.

I hate when people lie about what other people think and it kind of hurts my feelings.
I have no problem with you...sure we may disagree on a few things, but you can take the heat and dish it right back...all in good humor........I think your hilarious
 
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Of course you haven't been called a hypocrite that I have seen. You have a heart for the brethren to dwell together in unity without calling other's names even if they don't agree on a subject.

The sky is still blue....
Oh I have been called that, just not by you.
 

blue_ladybug

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In this one quote, Peter called Dcon a nutcase, a psychopath, and a hard-hearted brutal man.. THESE are vitriolic words and false accusations, from Peter, but yet Dcon is the one spreading vitriole and false accusations? Get real. Pot meet kettle, Peter.. :/




Being totally honest, dc talks about vitriol, hatred, false accusations etc.

But what I am sharing is nothing about his faith or position, but just what it means
to walk with Christ and why we are saved.

All his projections are his own, and nothing to do with me. I cannot even engage
with nut cases, because there is no rationalising with them.

If you meet a psychopath you do not go up to them and tell them how badly others
feel about their behaviour, because they do not care and have no empathy. You just
isolate them, and put them in prison, to keep their insanity and abuse from effecting
others. I cannot even feel hurt, because when you are rejoicing in God it is meaningless
to be told you do not know God and need to gain fellowship with the living God.

It made me laugh when a hard hearted brutal man told me I did not know love, and the love
I had was fake, worldly love and not Christs love. It is like meeting a nutcase from a mental
hospital who cannot read another person, understand their experience and then adjust their
message. Engagement is pointless, because they are so cut off their only goal is destruction
and telling you their mantra.

So if you know Jesus and His cross Amen, I love you brother or sister. Let us have fellowship
and grow in the ways of the Lord. To the rest, God bless you, do not know how I can help you,
I hope you have a good day, goodbye.
 
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Let me help you Peter.
You can help them by.........
Wait for it......
Are you ready???
NOT CALLING THEM A NUTCASE!
Then maybe clarifying what you mean instead of getting offended when folks don't understand what you are saying.
Sorry ariel, they are nuts. Anyone who says behaviour does not matter has gone
nuts. As humans everything is about behaviour. We spend 20+ years learning culture
and how to behave as adults.

But hey, here is a faith that says, believe in God and behaviour is no longer relevant.

I know a bunch of nutcases in Islam who follow a similar approach. Killing people is
no longer murder, it is execution for ...... fill in the blanks.
And you can do what you like, as long as it is not banned.

I had one guy telling me life was based on facts and not emotions.
Some seriously repressed guy, and living in cloud cockoo land.
Emotions are so fundamental we keep them under wraps because we
too easily go haywire. It is why it takes so long to grow up, to match
emotions to sense. And Jesus is all about making sense of emotional,
spiritual and intellectual life. Miss this and you miss Him.
 

BillG

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The dog remark made me think of the definition of unconditional love in action. Take your dog and your husband and lock them in the garage for all day.

When you open the door - you will see the one that loves you "unconditionally". Which one is really happy and full of joy to see you because they love you just for yourself?
And the answers is it's the?
 

blue_ladybug

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Pretty sure that is just Peter's own opinion of what they think about you. I know for a fact that they don't think you're a hypocrite. :)


Dcon, can you do me a favor and set the record straight?

PeterJens claims to be talking for you in another thread:

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Hmmm I might have been mistaken but I thought all three of you thought I was a sister in Christ.

I know I annoy EG some days, but I don't recall him, you or G777 calling me a hypocrite.

I hate when people lie about what other people think and it kind of hurts my feelings.
 
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In this one quote, Peter called Dcon a nutcase, a psychopath, and a hard-hearted brutal man.. THESE are vitriolic words and false accusations, from Peter, but yet Dcon is the one spreading vitriole and false accusations? Get real. Pot meet kettle, Peter.. :/
In blackjack you can double down....He doubled down and labeled me as nuts and associated me with Islam and murder....wow....
 
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In this one quote, Peter called Dcon a nutcase, a psychopath, and a hard-hearted brutal man.. THESE are vitriolic words and false accusations, from Peter, but yet Dcon is the one spreading vitriole and false accusations? Get real. Pot meet kettle, Peter.. :/
Actually I do think dc is a nutcase. But not a psychopath, I was just using this as an
illustration, and being hard hearted, could be dc, but there are plenty of other examples
of this I have come across.

One guy said because I did not recognise him as being able to speak things into existance
exnihilo I would be struck down and be a heap. Well, did not happen and he went off in
his nutcase belief system. Guys who believe they have real authority can show it by walking
on water, and then come back and testify to the glory of God. It they cannot do this simple
demonstration of authority, they are just deluded.

The other funny thing, is dc has called me all names I could think of, but I am not bothered,
because I know his mo, and it does not work if you know they are nuts.

I learnt this when dealing with someone with schizophrenia. It is hard if you feel there is hope
of getting respect and you have done something wrong that needs correcting, the empathetic
response. But once you realise they nutcases are just manipulating your empathy, the bond
in broken, the power removed.

So blue, hate to say, but you have joined your friends in the funny farm.
 
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His true colors coming out.....everyone should......it is one thing to disagree and many do and even to have somewhat heated conversations, but to call one nuts, a psychopath and equate one to Islam and murder goes beyond the rules of this site.......I try not to report anyone because of mercy.......but this one should be reported by all who read it....regardless of one's belief and or disagreement we do not say such things....!
 
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In blackjack you can double down....He doubled down and labeled me as nuts and associated me with Islam and murder....wow....
Lol.
You are not an islamic nutcase, but the changing of normal social reference points
leads to the same insane place. It is a version of lawlessness.

Where lawlessness reigns, psychopaths rule. It is why ISIS exposed young boys to
brutality and murder, so as the deaden them so they can go and do herrendous acts
without any conscience issues.

Once you grasp this process, you realise why Jesus talked about behaviour and love matter.

It is also why g7 tries so hard to turn lawlessness into self righteousness, because he wants
to hide the fruit of throwing over morality is the total decay of society.

You cannot have children growing up in a sexually abusive society with pornography and
no boundaries but that is our culture which certain belief systems are happy to go along
with.

And what am I guilty of? Believing Gods law is precious and glorious, holy and perfect,
given from on High, which in Christ we are empowered to walk in. It is so far from the
drivel these guys push and the totally compromised position with the world, you cannot
tell the difference between the world and them, and they are often actually proud of this
very point.
 

blue_ladybug

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Well, common sense should tell you that we CANNOT "speak things into existence". So whoever told you that was sorely mistaken. And you should have dismissed it as a mistaken belief and nothing else. Instead of calling them a psychopath or nutcase. And I'm LOL'ing at "joined my friends on the funny farm". :eek: Just where do you think YOU currently are? LOL.. You're on the funny farm too...

You say it doesn't bother you to be called names? Riighttt... That must also be why it doesn't bother you to call other people names as well.. :/ ..


Actually I do think dc is a nutcase. But not a psychopath, I was just using this as an
illustration, and being hard hearted, could be dc, but there are plenty of other examples
of this I have come across.

One guy said because I did not recognise him as being able to speak things into existance
exnihilo I would be struck down and be a heap. Well, did not happen and he went off in
his nutcase belief system. Guys who believe they have real authority can show it by walking
on water, and then come back and testify to the glory of God. It they cannot do this simple
demonstration of authority, they are just deluded.

The other funny thing, is dc has called me all names I could think of, but I am not bothered,
because I know his mo, and it does not work if you know they are nuts.

I learnt this when dealing with someone with schizophrenia. It is hard if you feel there is hope
of getting respect and you have done something wrong that needs correcting, the empathetic
response. But once you realise they nutcases are just manipulating your empathy, the bond
in broken, the power removed.

So blue, hate to say, but you have joined your friends in the funny farm.
 

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His true colors coming out.....everyone should......it is one thing to disagree and many do and even to have somewhat heated conversations, but to call one nuts, a psychopath and equate one to Islam and murder goes beyond the rules of this site.......I try not to report anyone because of mercy.......but this one should be reported by all who read it....regardless of one's belief and or disagreement we do not say such things....!
Sounds like he lost the plot a bit. Just lost his temper. Shouldn't really be online if he can't handle the conversations on here. He needs to chill and take a break. Maybe some training on anger management and to learn to chill, I don't know the history of what was said, but if he's calling you stuff like that, for him to maybe stop taking things so personal too. Sounds like he just lost his temper and went nuts.

I don't blame you for not reporting him, he needs help to cool down and to not say stuff like that. Getting him banned won't help him. Yes what he did is wrong but... he needs help. I will pray that he gets his anger sorted out and gets better.
 
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The irony is, dc being a military man is proud of his conformity with morality, though
his spiritual position is actually denying it, he cannot stand the idea of being related to
islamic nut cases.

Now you see the anger and the pride. It really hurts. But then winding up others, accusing
them of being of the enemy is nothing. Lol.
 

OwzK

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Actually I do think dc is a nutcase. But not a psychopath, I was just using this as an
illustration, and being hard hearted, could be dc, but there are plenty of other examples
of this I have come across.

One guy said because I did not recognise him as being able to speak things into existance
exnihilo I would be struck down and be a heap. Well, did not happen and he went off in
his nutcase belief system. Guys who believe they have real authority can show it by walking
on water, and then come back and testify to the glory of God. It they cannot do this simple
demonstration of authority, they are just deluded.

The other funny thing, is dc has called me all names I could think of, but I am not bothered,
because I know his mo, and it does not work if you know they are nuts.

I learnt this when dealing with someone with schizophrenia. It is hard if you feel there is hope
of getting respect and you have done something wrong that needs correcting, the empathetic
response. But once you realise they nutcases are just manipulating your empathy, the bond
in broken, the power removed.

So blue, hate to say, but you have joined your friends in the funny farm.
Nahh, dc's not a nutcase. He's one of the most decent and one of the best people I have met on this forum site, maybe one of the best people I have met on the internet. He's a good person, has morals, has honour, is kind, and friendly. What more could you want out of a person? he's a good guy.
 

blue_ladybug

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You are unreal.. The TRUTH is, Dcon being ex-military has nothing to do with his sense of morality. NO ONE likes being compared to murderers, or Islamic killers. And you've done both now, in more than just one post. If someone called YOU an psychopathic murderer, you'd be more than offended and you know it.


The irony is, dc being a military man is proud of his conformity with morality, though
his spiritual position is actually denying it, he cannot stand the idea of being related to
islamic nut cases.

Now you see the anger and the pride. It really hurts. But then winding up others, accusing
them of being of the enemy is nothing. Lol.
 

preacher4truth

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You all in this thread remind me of this, lol!

[video=youtube;p_u3YRZb74w]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_u3YRZb74w[/video]
 
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Well, common sense should tell you that we CANNOT "speak things into existence". So whoever told you that was sorely mistaken. And you should have dismissed it as a mistaken belief and nothing else. Instead of calling them a psychopath or nutcase. And I'm LOL'ing at "joined my friends on the funny farm". :eek: Just where do you think YOU currently are? LOL.. You're on the funny farm too...

You say it doesn't bother you to be called names? Riighttt... That must also be why it doesn't bother you to call other people names as well.. :/ ..
Blue - I remember when you said I had blood on my hands for giving advice to
someone about talking to their partner. The trouble is you take these short posts
way too seriously. These are ideas, positions, explorations, discoveries of peoples
experiences. Sometime something new comes along, but often it is endless sniping
over nothing, and artifical I am upset etc.

But then maybe you do not learn very quickly. And I do not think you have spotted
the fact that there are a lot of real nutters, and they often are attracted to religious
groups. I am sure some would regard me as crazy, but if I can be a fool for Christ
I just say, Amen, Praise the Lord.

What you might not have realised, is people get so lost in the trees they do not
see the forest. Repeatedly stating the obvious positions does not make it more true,
but it does show the shallowness of the position being presented and rather like a
repeat record, it is just indoctrination. lol. But Jesus is the living Word, Amen.