That`s what I thought to be honest...People coming back who do not admit who they are, if they are who people assume they were, then that is coming back with deceit, under false pretence, but no one can be 100 % sure that they are not past members, but the light will always shine on the darkness...xox...
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Yes, Abram put his trust/faith in God by leaving all that he knew and not having a clue where he was going, yet that is not the end of the story or the point where Abraham's faith was accounted to him for righteousness.
In Genesis 15:5, we read - Then He brought him outside and said, “Look now toward heaven, and count the stars if you are able to number them.” And He said to him, “So shall your descendants be.”
6 And he believed in the Lord, and He accounted it to him for righteousness.
In Genesis 15:5, we read - Then He brought him outside and said, “Look now toward heaven, and count the stars if you are able to number them.” And He said to him, “So shall your descendants be.”
6 And he believed in the Lord, and He accounted it to him for righteousness.
Imagine: "Ralph-" wanting people to read and comprehend what others say and then to respond with acknowledgment and acceptance of the things stated.
Yet, all the while "Ralph-" refuses to concede to and acknowledge what others have said, when they've stated it over and over and over. All this disingenuous wrangling on the part of "Ralph-" in order to continue his false accusations to ad nauseam.
How sanctimonious of "Ralph-."
For the record, I read what MMD stated, my response was to concisely agree in part. But, we still don't agree altogether, because faith is obtained, not innate, which is biblical. Thus again; "No lost man can "choose to believe." It has more to it than just the drawing of God. God gets all the glory, not part of or the majority of. It is all of him, including faith.
Soli Deo Gloria!
Yet, all the while "Ralph-" refuses to concede to and acknowledge what others have said, when they've stated it over and over and over. All this disingenuous wrangling on the part of "Ralph-" in order to continue his false accusations to ad nauseam.
How sanctimonious of "Ralph-."
For the record, I read what MMD stated, my response was to concisely agree in part. But, we still don't agree altogether, because faith is obtained, not innate, which is biblical. Thus again; "No lost man can "choose to believe." It has more to it than just the drawing of God. God gets all the glory, not part of or the majority of. It is all of him, including faith.
Soli Deo Gloria!
I’d be careful with that. I don’t really think it would be wise to try to discount or discredit the book of James because we think the author was in disagreement with Paul at one time.
I mean, because obviously the book of James is in the Bible. My concern is that if we start discrediting one part of the Bible because we don’t think it fits, or for whatever reason… then where would that end? Some people would cut it all to pieces and throw anything and everything they didn’t understand or like out of it.
BTW… I’m not really clear on what you are saying exactly, so honestly, I’m not trying to be rude or anything. Just saying that I myself would feel very uneasy with discounting or discrediting anything in the Bible.
I mean, because obviously the book of James is in the Bible. My concern is that if we start discrediting one part of the Bible because we don’t think it fits, or for whatever reason… then where would that end? Some people would cut it all to pieces and throw anything and everything they didn’t understand or like out of it.
BTW… I’m not really clear on what you are saying exactly, so honestly, I’m not trying to be rude or anything. Just saying that I myself would feel very uneasy with discounting or discrediting anything in the Bible.
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Imagine: "Ralph-" wanting people to read and comprehend what others say and then to respond with acknowledgment and acceptance of the things stated.
Yet, all the while "Ralph-" refuses to concede to and acknowledge what others have said, when they've stated it over and over and over. All this disingenuous wrangling on the part of "Ralph-" in order to continue his false accusations to ad nauseam.
How sanctimonious of "Ralph-."
Yet, all the while "Ralph-" refuses to concede to and acknowledge what others have said, when they've stated it over and over and over. All this disingenuous wrangling on the part of "Ralph-" in order to continue his false accusations to ad nauseam.
How sanctimonious of "Ralph-."
31“Treat others the same way you want them to treat you. 32“If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners love those who love them. Luke 6:31-32