For you to start by saying what I believe is not true, is making a large assumption that your interpretation of what
'born of water' means is true. There are many interpretations of what 'born of water' means, and mine is just 1 of them, and yours is just another one. So to say mine is untrue is fanciful on your part. You can say that I believe your interpretation is untrue, but you do not know what is true or not, since Jesus did not elaborate on what he meant by
'being born of the water'.
Baptism by water seems to fit the term 'born of water', or 'being born again', since a person goes down in the water and is completely immersed into a watery grave and is then lifted up out of the water and is metaphorically born again as a new person. That is my interpretation, and that may be different from yours. But you cannot prove with scripture that my interpretation is not true.
ya
actually
scripture in itself proves most of your views are false
(not trying to be mean here.... just being honest.... ive answered all of your questions with truth.... i really want you to see... but i cannot control if you believe it or not)
if someone ignores context
conflates verses
it will lead to a false understanding
im actually working
but heres something for you to ponder
Ephesians 4
4 I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called,
2 With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love;
3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
7 But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ.
8 Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.
9 (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?
10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)
11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
16 From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love.
and here is a bump
not true
3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
(use birth as an earthly example to help the lost Nicodemus who believed in works and didnt understand spiritual things to explain something spiritual to him)
4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
(again Nicodemus is unable to understand this spiritual lesson even with an earthly example of birth so he uses his earthly reasoning to question Jesus)
5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
(still speaking of brith and trying to relate the two.... born of water = anatomical fluid and born of the Spirit = when God makes His children new)
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
(again further explaining the two births.... flesh = water Spirit = God)
7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
romans 1
16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is
the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
4100. pisteuó ►
Strong's Concordance
pisteuó: to believe, entrust
Original Word: πιστεύω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: pisteuó
Phonetic Spelling: (pist-yoo'-o)
Short Definition: I believe, have faith in
Definition: I believe, have faith in, trust in; pass: I am entrusted with.