Not By Works

[VCO]

One I already addressed this. BOttom line is the original greek manuscript is used and divergent manuscript readings are given, so it is valuable for checking the original language. However as I said I have multiple INterlineras, I also provided other resources that agree...

I you are younger than me, YOUR DAY IS COMING, and my memory is already fading fast. If you are older than me, YOU ARE LIVING ON BORROWED TIME, and not being able to remember things you have read, is JUST AROUND THE CORNER. Now I am 69 years old, and I forget LOTS OF THINGS, even short term Memories. If I have three thing that I need from the Grocery Store, and I do not write them down on a list; by the time I drive those 2 miles to the Grocery Store, I will have forgotten two things of those three things that I need.

NOW THAT IS THE TRUTH.

Now I need to ask you once more:


Shamah, do you agree that Spirit in the body of JESUS is Yahweh?


Isaiah 43:10-11 (HCSB)
10 “You are My witnesses”— ⌊this is⌋ the LORD’s declaration— “and My servant whom I have chosen, so that you may know and believe Me and understand that I am He. No god was formed before Me, and there will be none after Me.
11 I, I am Yahweh, and there is no other Savior but Me.

Luke 2:11 (HCSB)
11 Today a Savior, who is Messiah the Lord, was born for you in the city of David.

2 Corinthians 5:19 (NASB)
19 namely, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and He has committed to us the word of reconciliation.

Isaiah 43:15 (HCSB)
15 I am Yahweh, your Holy One, the Creator of Israel, your King.

John 12:15-16 (HCSB)
15 Fear no more, Daughter Zion. Look, your King is coming, sitting on a donkey’s colt.
16 His disciples did not understand these things at first. However, when Jesus was glorified, then they remembered that these things had been written about Him and that they had done these things to Him.

 

[dcontroversal]

While I am not an expert in Greek I have many many Greek Concordances, Lexicons and Word Studies.

In the "Linguistic and Exegetical Key to the Greek New Testament" it confirms what both translations I have provided show. I also have a hard copy of this and read it's breakdown of the greek language before posting this.

It gives 22 lines of writing to breakdown the Greek language for each word with grammar and context to the owrds in said sentence.

It says, and this is just the last line. that the faith in question is "not able to save; i.e. achieve salvation for him"

https://www.amazon.com/New-Linguistic-Exegetical-Greek-Testament/dp/0310201756

Possibly you knew Greek better than the 3 study materials I have provided, IDk, I doubt it but who knows. However I have done my due diligence in seeking how the original manuscripts read and the breakdown of the koine greek...

Of course I expected you to reject the truth...it does not fit your legalistic, Hebrew roots, law keeping drivel....whatever.........!

 

[dcontroversal]

Hi VCO, you won't see me at a Church that handles snakes for worship. I Will stand on Matthew Ch4:7, "do not put the Lord to the test." I am deathly allergic to "Bee venom", I use an epi-pen when ever I am stung so to avoid Anaphylactic shock. When I asked the doctor why am I allergic and not others he said, One out of every 200 people that are born in the world are allergic to bee venom.

When I was a teenager I accidentally stepped on a hollow log that was full of yellow hornets. Immediately the hornets attacked me and I ran for my life. It was either run for my truck to take cover or jump in the river. I chose to jump in the river. Foolish mistake because they just hovered over me until I came up for a breath of air. I got up and ran for cover in my faithful truck, it worked and people called the paramedics. Obviously I survived the attack....

Lesson learned, run to your faithful truck not the river. If I recall right it was a Labor Day Weekend camp out.
Or, "do not step on hollow logs"....

Thank you and God bless you VCO

Matthew 4:7 (NASB)
7 Jesus said to him, "On the other hand, it is written, 'YOU SHALL NOT PUT THE LORD YOUR GOD TO THE TEST.'"

Good thing I am not allergic....I was whackin weeds today by a log pile and got nailed under my chin, back of my neck etc. by a swarm of yellow jackets.....had them stuck in my clothes and I ran away like a little girl HAHAH then I poured 1 gallon of gas in my sprayer and soaked the whole nest......now about 7 hours later my chin still stings and neck has a knot that itches like fire...Glad I had heavy camo pants on that they could not sting through.........

 

[BillG]

I you are younger than me, YOUR DAY IS COMING, and my memory is already fading fast. If you are older than me, YOU ARE LIVING ON BORROWED TIME, and not being able to remember things you have read, is JUST AROUND THE CORNER. Now I am 69 years old, and I forget LOTS OF THINGS, even short term Memories. If I have three thing that I need from the Grocery Store, and I do not write them down on a list; by the time I drive those 2 miles to the Grocery Store, I will have forgotten two things of those three things that I need.

NOW THAT IS THE TRUTH.

Now I need to ask you once more:


Shamah, do you agree that Spirit in the body of JESUS is Yahweh?


Isaiah 43:10-11 (HCSB)
10 “You are My witnesses”— ⌊this is⌋ the LORD’s declaration— “and My servant whom I have chosen, so that you may know and believe Me and understand that I am He. No god was formed before Me, and there will be none after Me.
11 I, I am Yahweh, and there is no other Savior but Me.

Luke 2:11 (HCSB)
11 Today a Savior, who is Messiah the Lord, was born for you in the city of David.

2 Corinthians 5:19 (NASB)
19 namely, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and He has committed to us the word of reconciliation.

Isaiah 43:15 (HCSB)
15 I am Yahweh, your Holy One, the Creator of Israel, your King.

John 12:15-16 (HCSB)
15 Fear no more, Daughter Zion. Look, your King is coming, sitting on a donkey’s colt.
16 His disciples did not understand these things at first. However, when Jesus was glorified, then they remembered that these things had been written about Him and that they had done these things to Him.

God bless you brother.

I'm truly thankful for you.

Your mind is fading, your body is failing.
And when you are called home, no more fading, no more failing.

Perfection in mind body and spirit.
That will never ever ever fade.

Thanks to Jesus, our saviour, our perfector.

 

[BillG]

Good thing I am not allergic....I was whackin weeds today by a log pile and got nailed under my chin, back of my neck etc. by a swarm of yellow jackets.....had them stuck in my clothes and I ran away like a little girl HAHAH then I poured 1 gallon of gas in my sprayer and soaked the whole nest......now about 7 hours later my chin still stings and neck has a knot that itches like fire...Glad I had heavy camo pants on that they could not sting through.........

That's cause you are a little girl
It's a good job you don't smoke.

Imagine lighting one up in celebration

 

[dcontroversal]

That's cause you are a little girl
It's a good job you don't smoke.

Imagine lighting one up in celebration

Bill my over the pond friend.....do not make this MARINE get on a plane HAHAHAHAHHAHA

 

[TruthTalk]

Good thing I am not allergic....I was whackin weeds today by a log pile and got nailed under my chin, back of my neck etc. by a swarm of yellow jackets.....had them stuck in my clothes and I ran away like a little girl HAHAH then I poured 1 gallon of gas in my sprayer and soaked the whole nest......now about 7 hours later my chin still stings and neck has a knot that itches like fire...Glad I had heavy camo pants on that they could not sting through.........

Sorry decon, the best advice I can offer is pack "ice" around the painful areas. I went to a local urgent care and the nurses packed me in ice for about 6hrs before they would release me. I got hit more than 100 times. They were everywhere and when I thought they were all gone I felt one crawling in my pants....nasty critters.

God bless!

 

[BillG]

Bill my over the pond friend.....do not make this MARINE get on a plane HAHAHAHAHHAHA

Did I tell you I have a hobby of Bee keeping
They all live in the 3sqm of my garden.
I love all 20 of them.

If ever you do come over my friend let me know.
I'll make sure I'm over in the States.

Seriously if you ever do come over I would love to meet you.

God bless you my brother and friend.

 

[dcontroversal]

Did I tell you I have a hobby of Bee keeping
They all live in the 3sqm of my garden.
I love all 20 of them.

If ever you do come over my friend let me know.
I'll make sure I'm over in the States.

Seriously if you ever do come over I would love to meet you.

God bless you my brother and friend.

Same here bro....but yellow jackets are not like honey bees....just a pain in the cough cough!

 

[Seohce]

In James 2:14, we read of one who says/claims he has faith but has no works (to evidence his claim). That is not genuine faith, but a bare profession of faith. So when James asks, "Can that faith save him?" he is saying nothing against genuine faith, but only against an empty profession of faith/dead faith. *So James does not teach that we are saved "by" works. His concern is to show the reality of the faith professed by the individual (James 2:18) and demonstrate that the faith claimed (James 2:14) by the individual is genuine. Simple!

When James says "faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead" (verse 17) he does not mean that faith is dead until it produces works and then it becomes a living faith (that's like saying a tree is dead until it produces fruit and then it becomes a living tree) or that works are the source of life in faith or that we are saved by works. James is simply saying faith that is not accompanied by evidential works is dead. Again, if someone says-claims he has faith but lacks resulting evidential works, (no works are ever produced from this claim of faith) then he has an empty profession of faith/dead faith and not authentic faith.

AS THE "BODY" WITHOUT THE "SPIRIT" IS DEAD SO FAITH "WITHOUT" WORKS IS DEAD ALSO.

DON'T YOU KNOW THAT WE ARE THE BODY OF CHRIST OF WHICH HE IS THE HEAD?

A PERSON RECEIVES THE HOLY SPIRIT THROUGH FAITH(gal 3:14) AND BECOMES PART OF CHRIST'S BODY TO PREPARE THEM FOR WORKS OF SERVICE(eph 4:11-13)

BEING "IN" CHRIST, WE WERE MADE A NEW CREATION THAT WILL DO GOOD WORKS AND MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE LAW THROUGH THE SPIRIT IN US.

17 Now the Lord is the spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.

10 For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.

4 in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.

THOSE WHO ARE IN CHRIST WILL DO WHAT HE HAS BEEN DOING BECAUSE WE ARE HIS BODY HERE ON EARTH WHILE HE IS WITH THE FATHER.

12 Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father.

A TRUE CHRISTIAN OBEYS GOD'S COMMANDMENTS AND DOES NOT ONLY CLAIM TO HAVE FAITH "ALONE" AND THEY ARE SAVED FOREVER.

1 john 2
3 We know that we have come to know him if we keep his commands. 4 Whoever says, “I know
him,” but does not do what he commands is a LIAR, and the truth is not in that person. 5 But if
anyone obeys his word,love for God is truly made complete in them. This is how we know we
are in him:6 Whoever claims to live in him must live as Jesus did.
revelations 21

8 But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who
practice magic arts, the idolaters and ALL LIARS—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of
burning sulfur. This is the second death.”

LIKE ANANIAS AND SAPPHIRA, WHO AFTER ŔECEIVING THE HOLY SPIRIT THROUGH
FAITH, LIED TO THE HOLY SPIRIT.

WILL THEY BE CONSIGNED TO THE FIERY LAKE OF BURNING SULFUR?

DOES THIS MAKE SENSE TO YOU?

6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things COMETH THE WRATH
OF .GOD ÙPON THE CHILDREN OF DISOBEDIENCE

MAN GOT SEPARATED FROM GOD BECAUSE OF THE SIN OF DISOBEDIENCE WHEN
MAN WAS DECEIVED BY THE SERPENT WHO SAID THAT “...Ye shall not surely
die.”(genesis 3:4)

DÈCEIVERS OF THIS AGE SAYS THE SAME THING;

“YE SHALL NOT SURELY DIE (PERIßH / BE CONDEMNED). ONCE YOU'RE SAVED, YOU
ARE ALWAYS ßAVED. JUST HAVE FAITH VOID OF WORKS (OF RIGHTEOUSNESS /
ÒBEDIENCE) AND YOU WILL POSSESS ETERNAL LIFE THE MOMENT YOU BELIEVE.

For certain individuals whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in
among you. They are ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into a license for
immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord.

OSAS AND FAS ARE FALSE MAN MADE DOCTRINES.

"GOD CANNOT BE MOCKED"

"LET GOD BE TRUE AND EVERY MAN A LIAR"

 

[dcontroversal]

I am so glad I do not have to see the rigmarole from some who totally reject the word of God and what it has to say about the sacrifice of Christ on the cross....when he became a CURSE for us, was temporarily forsaken and became a sin offering for us while imputing the righteousness of Christ without the deeds/works of the LAW by faith and void of any and all human effort or merit.....!!

 

[Seohce]

Preston, do not try to hang your hat on My BELIEFS. There IS NO OUR PART IN SALVATION.

IT WAS A DONE DEAL when GOD gave us HIS GRACE because of what CHRIST DID ON ON THE CROSS, IT IS COMPLETE.

Technically, that was TRUE, before the FOUNDATION OF THE EARTH of the Earth, because it says our NAMES WERE WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE BEFORE THE EARTH CAME INTO BEING.

OBEDIENCE is not part of SALVATION, IT IS PART OF LOVE, and it says that LOVE was put into the soil of our HEART, Rom. 5:5. GUESS WHAT THAT SEED WILL PRODUCE? SALVATION IS NOT A CREDIT IN HEAVEN, it is a FREE GIFT FROM GOD.

YOU KEEP ON INSISTING THAT OBEDIENCE IS NOT PART OF SALVATION, SO I NOW DARE YOU THAT IF YOU REALLY LOVE GOD AND YOU OBEY HIS COMMANDMENTS THEN PROVE IT TO US BY OBEYING WHAT THE LORD INSTRUCTS YOU IN THE FF:

The Rich and the Kingdom of God

16 Just then a man came up to Jesus and asked, “Teacher, what good thing must I do to get eternal life?”

17 “Why do you ask me about what is good?” Jesus replied. “There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, keep the commandments.”

18 “Which ones?” he inquired.

Jesus replied, “‘You shall not murder, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not steal, you shall not give false testimony, 19 honor your father and mother,’ and ‘love your neighbor as yourself.’”

20 “All these I have kept,” the young man said. “What do I still lack?”

21 Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”

8 But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and 8 But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”

 

[VCO]

God bless you brother.

I'm truly thankful for you.

Your mind is fading, your body is failing.
And when you are called home, no more fading, no more failing.

Perfection in mind body and spirit.
That will never ever ever fade.

Thanks to Jesus, our saviour, our perfector.

And No More Body of Death and Degeneration.

 

[Seohce]

I am so glad I do not have to see the rigmarole from some who totally reject the word of God and what it has to say about the sacrifice of Christ on the cross....when he became a CURSE for us, was temporarily forsaken and became a sin offering for us while imputing the righteousness of Christ without the deeds/works of the LAW by faith and void of any and all human effort or merit.....!!

9 “And you, my son Solomon, acknowledge the God of your father, and serve him with wholehearted devotion and with a willing mind, for the Lord searches every heart and understands every desire and every thought. If you seek him, he will be found by you; but if you forsake him, he will reject you forever.

15 Now, brothers and sisters, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received and on which you have taken your stand. 2 By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.

WILL ANANIAS AND SAPPHIRA BE CONSIGNED TO THE FIERY LAKE OF BURNING SULFUR TOGETHER WITH ALL THE LIARS, DECEIVERS AND DISOBEDIENT SERVANTS OF A "WALKING DEAD" THEOLOGY?

8 But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”

 

[Shamah]

While I am not an expert in Greek I have many many Greek Concordances, Lexicons and Word Studies.

In the "Linguistic and Exegetical Key to the Greek New Testament" it confirms what both translations I have provided show. I also have a hard copy of this and read it's breakdown of the greek language before posting this.

It gives 22 lines of writing to breakdown the Greek language for each word with grammar and context to the owrds in said sentence.

It says, and this is just the last line. that the faith in question is "not able to save; i.e. achieve salvation for him"

https://www.amazon.com/New-Linguistic-Exegetical-Greek-Testament/dp/0310201756

Possibly you knew Greek better than the 3 study materials I have provided, IDk, I doubt it but who knows. However I have done my due diligence in seeking how the original manuscripts read and the breakdown of the koine greek...

Of course I expected you to reject the truth...it does not fit your legalistic, Hebrew roots, law keeping drivel....whatever.........!

Always spitting venom...

 

[Seohce]

IS SANCTIFICATION A PART OF SALVATION?


Romans 6:15-23 What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? By no means! Don’t you know that when you offer yourselves to someone to obey him as slaves, you are slaves to the one whom you obey—whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to OBEDIENCE WHICH LEADS TO RIGHTEOUSNESS? But thanks be to God that, though you used to be slaves to sin, you wholeheartedly obeyed the form of teaching to which you were entrusted. You have been set free from sin and have become slaves to righteousness. I put this in human terms because you are weak in your natural selves. Just as you used to offer the parts of your body in slavery to impurity and to ever-increasing wickedness, so NOW offer them in slavery to RIGHTEOUSNESS LEADING TO HOLINESS. When you were slaves to sin, you were free from the control of righteousness. What benefit did you reap at that time from the things you are now ashamed of? Those things result in death! But NOW that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves to God, the benefit you reap LEADS TO HOLINESS, and THE RESULT IS ETERNAL LIFE. For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.


THESE VERSES ABOVE CLEARLY SAYS THAT OBEDIENCE LEADS TO RIGHTEOUSNESS THAT LEADS TO HOLINESS AND THE RESULT IS ETERNAL LIFE.


OUR LORD JESUS SAID;


Matthew 19:17 “Why do you ask me about what is good?” Jesus replied. “There is only One who is good. IF YOU WANT TO ENTER LIFE,(ref: john 14:6) OBEY THE COMMANDMENTS.”


John 14:15 “If you love me, you will obey what I command.


John 14:21-24 WHOEVER HAS MY COMMANDS AND OBEYS THEM, he is the one who loves me. He who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love him and show myself to him.” Then Judas (not Judas Iscariot) said, “But, Lord, why do you intend to show yourself to us and not to the world?” Jesus replied, “IF ANYONE LOVES ME, HE WILL OBEY MY TEACHING.
My Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him. HE WHO DOES NOT LOVE ME WILL NOT OBEY MY TEACHINGS. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me.


AND BEFORE GOING BACK TO THE FATHER HE GAVE HIS DISCIPLES THESE COMMANDS;


Matthew 28:19-20 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and TEACHING THEM TO OBEY EVERYTHING I HAVE COMMANDED YOU . And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”


THESE WORDS OF OUR LORD JESUS ARE TRUE AND IS THE TRUTH.


John 17:17 Sanctify them by the truth; your word is truth.


WILL ANYONE BE SANCTIFIED WITHOUT OBEYING THE TRUTH?


Ephesians 1:13 And you also were included in Christ when you heard THE WORD OF TRUTH, THE GOSPEL OF YOUR SALVATION. Having believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit,


1 Peter 4:17 For it is time for judgment to begin with the family of God; and if it begins with us, what will the outcome be for those who do not obey the gospel of God?


2 Thessalonians 1:8-9 He will punish those who do not know God and do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. They will be punished with everlasting destruction and shut out from the presence of the Lord and from the majesty of his power


DOES THE GOSPEL OF OUR SALVATION TEACHES US TO DISOBEY BY SAYING THAT "FAITH ALONE" SAVES, VOID OF ANY SORT OF WORKS?
THAT EVEN OBEDIENCE TO GOD IS NOT NECESSARY FOR SALVATION SINCE "ONCE SAVED, ALWAYS SAVED?


IF SANCTIFICATION IS NOT A PART OF SALVATION...
WHY WAIT FOR A SAVIOR?
(hebrews 5:7-9)


IF OBEDIENCE IS NOT A PART OF SALVATION...
HERE'S WHAT THE "WORD OF TRUTH", "THE GOSPEL OF OUR SALVATION" TEACHES US...


Revelation 3:1-3 To the Church in Sardis “To the angel of the church in Sardis write: These are the words of him who holds the seven spirits of God and the seven stars. I know your deeds; you have a reputation of being alive, but YOU ARE DEAD. Wake up! Strengthen what remains and is about to die, for I HAVE NOT FOUND YOUR DEEDS COMPLETE in the sight of my God. Remember, therefore, what you have RECEIVED and HEARD; OBEY IT, AND REPENT. But if you do not WAKE UP, I will come like a thief, and you will not know at what time I will come to you.


Ephesians 5:6 Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things GOD'S WRATH COMES ON THOSE WHO ARE DISOBEDIENT.


3Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should EARNESTLY CONTEND FOR THE FAITH which was once delivered unto the saints. For certain men whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are godless men, who change the grace of our God into a LICENSE FOR IMMORALITY and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord.

 

[VCO]

Hi VCO, you won't see me at a Church that handles snakes for worship. I Will stand on Matthew Ch4:7, "do not put the Lord to the test." I am deathly allergic to "Bee venom", I use an epi-pen when ever I am stung so to avoid Anaphylactic shock. When I asked the doctor why am I allergic and not others he said, One out of every 200 people that are born in the world are allergic to bee venom.

When I was a teenager I accidentally stepped on a hollow log that was full of yellow hornets. Immediately the hornets attacked me and I ran for my life. It was either run for my truck to take cover or jump in the river. I chose to jump in the river. Foolish mistake because they just hovered over me until I came up for a breath of air. I got up and ran for cover in my faithful truck, it worked and people called the paramedics. Obviously I survived the attack....

Lesson learned, run to your faithful truck not the river. If I recall right it was a Labor Day Weekend camp out.
Or, "do not step on hollow logs"....

Thank you and God bless you VCO

Matthew 4:7 (NASB)
7 Jesus said to him, "On the other hand, it is written, 'YOU SHALL NOT PUT THE LORD YOUR GOD TO THE TEST.'"

Yes, I know all about people Allergic to bee stings. Yes ago, my wife who was highly allergic to bee stings, we went up to the Look Out Tower on the Platte River with Grand Kids. It was a very tall tower, on the LAST stairway UP to the top, she Got Stung. I asked her where her bee sting kit was, and it was in the glove box of the car. By the time we got her down to the Car, she could hardly breath, and I gave her the shot, and then a flying trip to the Emergency Room about 20 miles away. Afterwards the Doctor came to talk to me, and told me if I had not given her the shot when I did, she would have been DOA at the Hospital. Nothing to fool around with when you are allergic to bee stings.

 

[Splagna]

I agree and some manuscripts include the ? ( and some do not, same with the last few words some include them soome do not.

Shamah, what textual witnesses contain different wording than the ED? Bible Hub lists all the major textual witnesses for James 2:14, and all except the Tischendorf 8th Edition are exactly the same (Tischendorf changes ἡ πίστις to ὁ πίστις). As far as some textual versions not including the ; (question mark) this doesn’t change the fact that James 2:14b is a question.

Just for kicks, Shamah, let’s suppose you just finished your second year of Greek studies and agree that when μὴ is followed by a verb in the indicative mood it is used to ask a rhetorical question which expects the answer to be “no.”

Here’s where understanding Greek can really help. Let’s look at James 2:14.

What use is it, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but he has no works? Can that faith save him (NASB)?

Because James used μὴ/mē, James’ readers would understand the answer is “no.” Due to the high 1st century illiteracy rate James’ letter was most likely read to the listeners. When they heard μὴ δύναται ἡ πίστις σῶσαι αὐτόν/Can that faith save him? They would have known from the Greek usage of μὴ the answer is “no.”

Now I have a question for you, Shamah. If the implied answer to “Can that faith save him?” is no, then how is, “This faith is not able to save him” different in meaning? Rather than lecturing his hearers by stating, “This faith is not able to save him,” he drew his listeners into the discussion by asking them, “Can that faith save him?” They would have readily answered “NO.”

 

[dcontroversal]

Always spitting venom...

Yep and I could say that you are always rejecting truth that contradicts your law keeping drivel....

 

[Jewel5712]

Yep and I could say that you are always rejecting truth that contradicts your law keeping drivel....

Hiya d..happy labor day!