The problem with 2 Peter 2 v20-22 for the Osassers is this. They have to redefine who is a believer to who isnt. But the scriptures here are clear that they escaped. Now how did they escape? By their own effort, or by Christ? THIS THEY CANNOT ANSWER. Because if they say own effort, then HOW is this possible? If they say Christ, the HOW is it possible to say so and then accede that these people fell away again.
So they are left with trying to redefine words and intentions in scripture.
The scriptures are plain for all to see.
So they are left with trying to redefine words and intentions in scripture.
The scriptures are plain for all to see.
Mat 21:23 And when he was come into the temple, the chief priests and the elders of the people came unto him as he was teaching, and said, By what authority doest thou these things? and who gave thee this authority?
Mat 21:24 And Jesus answered and said unto them, I also will ask you one thing, which if ye tell me, I in like wise will tell you by what authority I do these things.
Mat 21:25 The baptism of John, whence was it? from heaven, or of men? And they reasoned with themselves, saying, If we shall say, From heaven; he will say unto us, Why did ye not then believe him?
Mat 21:26 But if we shall say, Of men; we fear the people; for all hold John as a prophet.
Mat 21:27 And they answered Jesus, and said, We cannot tell. And he said unto them, Neither tell I you by what authority I do these things.
Mat 22:41 While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them,
Mat 22:42 Saying, What think ye of Christ? whose son is he? They say unto him, The Son of David.
Mat 22:43 He saith unto them, How then doth David in spirit call him Lord, saying,
Mat 22:44 The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool?
Mat 22:45 If David then call him Lord, how is he his son?
Mat 22:46 And no man was able to answer him a word, neither durst any man from that day forth ask him any more questions.
People that hold a belief contrary to the truth of God will eventually come across something that contradicts what they believe,and they will not know how to answer for they cannot justify themselves,so many will ignore it for they cannot explain it,but might think it is an interpretation that goes along with what I believe,but I cannot grasp it now.
They say God chooses who will be saved,and who will not be saved,in the beginning,without the input of the person,which first off God is not evil to condemn people that have no input concerning their destiny,and all have sinned and come short of the glory of God,and God is no respecter of persons.
1Ti 2:3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
1Ti 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
1Ti 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
1Ti 2:6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.
Joh 1:9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
Rev 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
God wants all people to be saved,and Jesus gave Himself as a ransom for all people,which the Bible says He is the Savior of the world,all people,and lights every person that is born in to this world.
So God does not choose who will be saved,and not saved,in the beginning,without the input of the person,for we do get an input in our destiny,and if not people that God chose would not truly love God,for they have no choice but to love God,and those not chosen are condemned for no reason.
2 things that go against the nature of God,that He is true love,and He is not evil,wow which is really crazy that their belief says this about God,but I know they are not trying to do that.
God calls things that have not happened as though they already happened,which all the works were finished before the foundation of the world,and the Lamb was slain from the foundation of the world,and the prophets blood shed from the foundation of the world,although they were future events.
God already had the plan to give mankind salvation before He laid down the foundation of the world,so it is the same as if they have salvation in the beginning,and that salvation is to whoever wants it,for the Spirit and bride say,Come,and anybody that wants that salvation can have it.
Mat 22:14 For many are called, but few are chosen.
Co 1:26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called.
God does the calling and choosing on earth,but God gets the glory for us being saved,for when He calls us He works in our life to get us to the truth,but we have to make the final push through the door and accept that truth,for God's kingdom is based on true love.Without God interceding in our life we would never get to the point to make the decision of the truth,for no person comes to the Son unless the Father draws them,and no person says Jesus is Lord,but by the Holy Ghost.
Rom 11:21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
Rom 11:22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
Like the Old Testament that was given to Israel,if they did not obey then they were cut off,so it is in the New Testament,if a person accepts Jesus as Lord and Savior,but they do not continue in His goodness,holding unto sin,they too will be cut off if they do not repent,and give up the sin.
Jas 5:19 Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him;
Jas 5:20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.
2Ti 3:6 lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
2Ti 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
2Ti 3:6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
2Ti 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
A lot of people claim Jesus as Lord,and if some people start out in goodness,and then did not continue in goodness,will be cut off,if they do not get rid of the sins,then how will these people be in a right position that did not even get off on the right foot,for they would not get rid of their sins right off the bat,but if they would realize that sin affects their relationship with God,and does something about it,they can get on track.
If they believe they cannot abstain from sin,and sin does not affect their relationship with God,did they get off on the right foot with God,for when they accepted Christ as Lord and Savior,did they hold unto sin thinking they were alright with God,but only repented of all they did prior to that,but did not make that great of an effort to try to abstain from sin in the future,but do it,and then repent,and hold unto sin.
Many are called but few chosen,for we have a choice in the matter of our salvation,for God is true love,and is not evil.
Were they chosen that believe sin does not affect their relationship with Christ.