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VCO

VCO

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benhur said:
There are 3 Persons in the Trinity. God the Father, Jesus the Son, and the Holy Spirit. So although Jesus is God, he is not God the Father, and that is who Jesus was referring to as the only one that was good. So his reply to this man is a little confusing.

If Jesus was referring to himself as God, why would he say "why callest me good", and seem to be referring to someone else?

It is just a little interesting.

In my world, I can imagine that God can give freely His love. But it is like, He is also mighty in giving mercy. But we know that if we are not merciful, like Him, He can take His mercy away and throw us in prison. I believe that if God gives us His love freely, we must be willing to give love too, and if we decide to be a hater, then God may be willing to take His love away from us, until we figure it out and repent and return love for love.
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You have NEVER ANSWERED what Denomination do you call home.


I THINK YOU HAVE JUST EXPOSED YOURSELF!


YOU ARE A JEHOVAH WITNESS AREN'T YOU ? ? ?


John 1:1 (HCSB)
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

John 1:14 (HCSB)
14 The Word became flesh and took up residence among us. We observed His glory, the glory as the One and Only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.

Colossians 2:8-10 (NKJV)
8 Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ.
9 For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily;
10 and you are complete in Him, who is the head of all principality and power.

John 14:9 (NKJV)
9 Jesus said to him, "Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, 'Show us the Father'?

Isaiah 43:10-11 (HCSB)
10 “You are My witnesses”— ⌊this is⌋ the LORD’s declaration— “and My servant whom I have chosen, so that you may know and believe Me and understand that I am He. No god was formed before Me, and there will be none after Me.
11 I, I am Yahweh, and there is no other Savior but Me.

Luke 2:11 (NKJV)
11 For there is born to you this day in the city of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord.
 
BaptistBibleBeliever

BaptistBibleBeliever

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theanointedsinner said:
first of all, repentance is a gift from God, you cannot make yourself desire it, it can only come from God himself.
Therefore, we can do nothing about it
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"The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance" (II Peter 3:9).

So, then all WILL come to repentance and no one will go to hell? According to you. I mean, He is not willing that they should not come to repentance. No one has the free will to say no to Him or anything.
 
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theanointedsinner

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for now, I'll activate the sword, here's one I found in the Sermon on the Mount

take a wild guess which chapter in Matthew? (hint: not 7)

but Matthew 6:34

do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own. (Matthew 6:34)

now your probably like, "huh?"

what does this have to do with the question "Can a Christian lose salvation?"

and let me explain, if your salvation is losable, how can you possibly obey Matthew 6:34?

do you see now? Matthew 6:34 is only possible when salvation is secure eternally
 
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UnderGrace

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theanointedsinner said:
I wish that this is true, but unfortunately people choose to reject Jesus, and slip and fall into hell and God allows that
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theanointedsinner said:
first of all, repentance is a gift from God, you cannot make yourself desire it, it can only come from God himself.
Therefore, we can do nothing about it
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You are completely contradicting yourself here?:unsure:
 
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theanointedsinner

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can you please explain to me the process of sanctification?
 
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theanointedsinner

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at the very least, I do have a sincere desire to hear @VCO 's answer on how can I repent

so that incase if God give me the desire to repent, I can repent
 
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UnderGrace

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theanointedsinner said:
at the very least, I do have a sincere desire to hear @VCO 's answer on how can I repent

so that incase if God give me the desire to repent, I can repent
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"Metanoia" means to have a change of mind and heart, in context of scripture a change of mind towards God and the gospel message.

Essentially, it means to think about something later on and have a reversal of opinion about it. Thus, repentance meant “to change the mind.” Specifically—to change the mind about Christ.
 
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theanointedsinner

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UnderGrace said:
"Metanoia" means to have a change of mind and heart, in context of scripture a change of mind towards God and the gospel message.
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mind can change, heart is a different story
 
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theanointedsinner

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UnderGrace said:
"Metanoia" means to have a change of mind and heart, in context of scripture a change of mind towards God and the gospel message.

Essentially, it means to think about something later on and have a reversal of opinion about it. Thus, repentance meant “to change the mind.” Specifically—to change the mind about Christ.
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Christ is Savior, Christ can offer the opportunity to allow the sinner to ask Christ to be "Lord and Master"
and the saved can ask Christ to help obey
 
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UnderGrace

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theanointedsinner said:
Christ is Savior, Christ can offer the opportunity to allow the sinner to ask Christ to be "Lord and Master"
and the saved can ask Christ to help obey
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Dear theannointedsinner, I do not ascribe to lordship salvation theology, I believe Jesus is Saviour, Jesus is Lord we do not make Him Lord, neither do we become robots once we have been regenerated.
 
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