Not By Works

[preacher4truth]

No not really.........the truth.....why do you think what you believe is called Calvinism?

No, you're being juvenile bro. Very callow.

 

[dcontroversal]

So you understand "all?" When did this glorious event transpire for you? And you now understand the differing contexts? Nothing I said was mouthy or false, looks like that's your job. Care to address what I actually said, or are you still stuck on Juvenile Blvd with your callow behavior?

You should take a look in the mirror....seems I read people calling you out all the time for mouthy, uncalled for remarks that elevate yourself and condemn others....serious!

 

[preacher4truth]

Sorry gentlemen. Had work. Only have a few minutes now.
Genesis 6:4 There were [b]giants on the earth in those days, AND ALSO AFTERWARD, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.

There are those that believe there were a second incursion of fallen angels. I don't think so.

So the Nephillim show up after the flood. I think it's fair speculation to say that one of Noah's son's wives at least were corrupted.

Absurd to think God had Israel wipe out every man, woman, child and baby and animal because of sins that we ALL commit, INCLUDING the Israelites themselves.

Bro, you're adding to Scripture to arrive at your conclusions with your one of the wives must have been corrupted. That is called desperation.

 

[preacher4truth]

You should take a look in the mirror....seems I read people calling you out all the time for mouthy, uncalled for remarks that elevate yourself and condemn others....serious!

No worries your tribe will be here to cheer you on in your carnal ways. Now, care to show us one of those posts where this happened? I'll be waiting here for your next mouthy and demeaning comment. Go for it, it's you.

 

[preacher4truth]

That's taking an awful lot of liberties and stretching the text pretty darn far.

Brother, with your above accusation, you probably ought to take your own medicine with your comment on one of Noah's sons wives? Or is it ok if you've done it?

 

[dcontroversal]

I don't see a contradiction at all. ALL are going to physically die, but Paul makes the point that spiritual death comes to those under the Law. At one point he was not under the Law, and was therefore spiritually alive. How the heck can we say he thought he was alive as a good Pharisee, when that life was ALL ABOUT keeping the Law!?

I don't see a contradiction at all. ALL are going to physically die, but Paul makes the point that spiritual death comes to those under the Law. At one point he was not under the Law, and was therefore spiritually alive. How the heck can we say he thought he was alive as a good Pharisee, when that life was ALL ABOUT keeping the Law!?

Amen.......that and regardless David was clear about going to his child and seeing him again and David speaks of his salvation in the present tense.....If the child was in hell as the Calvinists believe then DAVID could not have said what David said......Paul was ALIVE, the law came, sin REVIVED AND HE DIED....only one way he could have died.....and physical was not it!

 

[dcontroversal]

No, you're being juvenile bro. Very callow.

Answer the question for all...Why is the doctrine you follow called Calvinism? Simple....why?

 

[dcontroversal]

No worries your tribe will be here to cheer you on in your carnal ways. Now, care to show us one of those posts where this happened? I'll be waiting here for your next mouthy and demeaning comment. Go for it, it's you.

All one has to do is read the last three or four pages of this thread.....and even the post you just made to PennEd

 

[dcontroversal]

Show me where I stated I'm the only one who understands it? Or are you going to finally man up and speak truth?

My bad....only you and your calvinistic buddies undersand Context, scripture and the word All.....hahahahahaaha

 

[dcontroversal]

What does the word WHOSEVER MEAN?

 

[Hevosmies]

If someone who is just born is automatically going to heaven, which many do believe including myself since they havent sinned yet. In fact i dont know where they go, but its certainly not hell.

Then isnt abortion the best thing to ever do? Because the odds are when someone grows up they wont become a christian in today's society? The parents are doing them a favor, really, sacrificing themselves by sinning, yet saving a soul.

That sounds twisted to me, but that would be the logical conclusion. Why insist on raising them to hell?

Anyone got a good explanation?

 

[dcontroversal]

My friend, where I have said there will be babies in hell? Please quote it where I have.

I think 2 Samuel 12 is quite the stretch to say that David knew his child was in heaven. He was grieving the loss of his child and was wanting to die with him, is how I see it.

That is not what he said..........nor did he imply that!

 

[eternally-gratefull]

All one has to do is read the last three or four pages of this thread.....and even the post you just made to PennEd

Is he blame shifting and denying his own sin again?

 

[dcontroversal]

For the record, I do not believe babies enter into eternity in the state of being a baby. There is something more for some of you callow ones to tear me into pieces over.

Actually the Greek appoints the designation of full grown sons and daughters.......

 

[preacher4truth]

Answer the question for all...Why is the doctrine you follow called Calvinism? Simple....why?

Come on now, we both know you're incapable of using Biblical context in your responses. Just melded together out of context partial texts. It's shameful handling of the Word of God on your part, as per 1 Corinthians 2:14-17 and 4:2.

Then of course your mouthy accusations, right?

You do realize your teaching is hand me down Finneyism, correct? Or are you unaware of his teaching being yours and of when it came on the scene in church history some 150 years or so ago?

Funny thing is you cannot refute one tenet of so called Calvinism when Scripture is used in it's proper context. And you're not interested in context. We are both aware of this.

Who is being referred to in Romans 12:3? You used it in context of the world at large to support your decisional regeneration gospel. Is it referring to the saved or all in the world as you misused it? I want to see you correct yourself on this, and/or if you man up and own your error with that specific Scripture.

Or you can be you and be snide and deny it. I'm betting on the carnal latter.

 

[dcontroversal]

Here’s the thing my friend, the Bible does not explicitly state one way or the other about their eternal state.

If God commanded babies of the enemy nations to be killed, it appears to me He views them much differently than we do.

Or maybe God is showing mercy.....every kindred, race and tongue...........

 

[Argueless]

... I declare to you, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed— in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality. When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come true: “Death has been swallowed up in victory.” “Where, O death, is your victory? Where, O death, is your sting?” The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law. But thanks be to God! He gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. Therefore, my dear brothers, stand firm. Let nothing move you. Always give yourselves fully to the work of the Lord, because you know that your labor in the Lord is not in vain. 1 Corinthians 15:50-58

 

[preacher4truth]

All one has to do is read the last three or four pages of this thread.....and even the post you just made to PennEd

All any have to do is read page after page after page of your posts in this thread and they'll see you and how you speak to many.

 

[dcontroversal]

Come on now, we both know you're incapable of using Biblical context in your responses. Just melded together out of context partial texts. It's shameful handling of the Word of God on your part, as per 1 Corinthians 2:14-17 and 4:2.

Then of course your mouthy accusations, right?

You do realize your teaching is hand me down Finneyism, correct? Or are you unaware of his teaching being yours and of when it came on the scene in church history some 150 years or so ago?

Funny thing is you cannot refute one tenet of so called Calvinism when Scripture is used in it's proper context. And you're not interested in context. We are both aware of this.

Who is being referred to in Romans 12:3? You used it in context of the world at large to support your decisional regeneration gospel. Is it referring to the saved or all in the world as you misused it? I want to see you correct yourself on this, and/or if you man up and own your error with that specific Scripture.

Or you can be you and be snide and deny it. I'm betting on the carnal latter.

Nothing but mouth again...you cannot answer can you...why is that.....?

One more time....Why is the doctrine you follow called Calvinism?

 

[dcontroversal]

All any have to do is read page after page after page of your posts in this thread and they'll see you and how you speak to many.

I see you have no ability to admit your error....many have noticed this as well...and for the record...I usually reserve my heat for those who devalue Christ and peddle a works based false gospel.....but hey.....whatever man!