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Oh I know......Google and watch Yanni Live at the Acropolis.......And then tell me we came from Monkeys......an ancient Chinese Emperor said, "If you want to change society, you can change it through music."

It amazes me how music has the ability to lift, sadden, excite, move one in every emotional way possible......
You mean
You mean
We DON'T come from monkeys!!!!



 

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Awww, thank you very much. I have popped by here a couple of times, so I'm quite familiar with the heated discussion that goes on around here.

LOL, my avatar is none of what you have suggested. It's my lil sissy. I'm quite young to be married with kids hehe.

I also count myself as non-denomination conservative evangelical :D

I was raised as a Christian my as a child until I had to make my own personal decision to follow Christ. I don't know exactly when but it was when I was a pre-teen. I'm still growing as a young person :)

Thank you again, sir.

AMEN! Good to have you here. May the Lord Bless you. I know some think I have a very narrow mind, but that is because I follow the MOST narrow minded man that ever Lived, and still is LORD and KING.

John 14:6 (CSBBible)
6 Jesus told him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
 
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AMEN! Good to have you here. May the Lord Bless you. I know some think I have a very narrow mind, but that is because I follow the MOST narrow minded man that ever Lived, and still is LORD and KING.

John 14:6 (CSBBible)
6 Jesus told him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
Hi VCO, I pray each day God is healing you so that you can continue to live a healthy life for our Savior.

Question, have you ever considered doing voluntary work here at Christianchat.com? I think you would be an excellent Moderator plus an overall asset to this wonderful Conservative Christian Forum. I would be the first to give approval for you to become a Moderator and I'm sure there are others who would agree with me.

The reason being is that you show Christ like love to everyone who posts on this forum. Maybe you could at least give it some consideration and I have heard that there are Moderators here who were once general posters like you and I...:)

God bless!
 

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Hi VCO, I pray each day God is healing you so that you can continue to live a healthy life for our Savior.

Question, have you ever considered doing voluntary work here at Christianchat.com? I think you would be an excellent Moderator plus an overall asset to this wonderful Conservative Christian Forum. I would be the first to give approval for you to become a Moderator and I'm sure there are others who would agree with me.

The reason being is that you show Christ like love to everyone who posts on this forum. Maybe you could at least give it some consideration and I have heard that there are Moderators here who were once general posters like you and I...:)

God bless!

NO, because THEN I WOULD HAVE TO READ EVERY POST, I am a poor reader, Have some problems with AADD, and I would have to give up my IGNORE LIST, which I sincerely LIKE.
 

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Hi VCO, I pray each day God is healing you so that you can continue to live a healthy life for our Savior.

Question, have you ever considered doing voluntary work here at Christianchat.com? I think you would be an excellent Moderator plus an overall asset to this wonderful Conservative Christian Forum. I would be the first to give approval for you to become a Moderator and I'm sure there are others who would agree with me.

The reason being is that you show Christ like love to everyone who posts on this forum. Maybe you could at least give it some consideration and I have heard that there are Moderators here who were once general posters like you and I...:)

God bless!
Thank you for the Prayers tho
 
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Sorry but faith is what leads us to that FREE gift of grace and salvation and mercy from God Almighty. There are plenty of verses in His Word which thoroughly explain that we have salvation through our faith in God and that's about as simple as it gets.
but faith can be lost and that is what is critical......
 
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No we cannot live in a continuous wilfull rebellious state if we proclaim genuine faith in Jesus.

If one does then does one have genuine faith?
That does not mean that we do not have periods of rebellion or sin.
I'm an example of that. Caught in a sin cycle yet hating it.
God had to deal with the cause of the effect in me.

Those who preach such things as you say will answer to God.
All we can is stand firm and be willing to come alongside those who have been damaged by it.
Amen......
 
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Hi ReturnToGod, for the benefit of your readers VCO is correct, when you add your response to a post please try to "Type your response" - after the - "
" box.

Like this: Post your reply here but not within the [/QUOTE] <<boxes>> [/QUOTE], but your written reply should be "after the quote boxes", make any sense? :)

God bless![/QUOTE]

VCO is correct on what?
 
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" box.

Like this: Post your reply here but not within the
<<boxes>> [/QUOTE], but your written reply should be "after the quote boxes", make any sense? :)

God bless![/QUOTE]

VCO is correct on what?[/QUOTE]

Hello ReturnToGod, this post was not written by me and makes absolutely no sense whatsoever , who said these words I do not know and cannot answer your question, just have to let it go because I have no answer, thanks
 
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but faith can be lost and that is what is critical......
Your Jesus must be weak, inept or a liar...

Mine...

Begins a work of faith
Finishes the work of faith
Completes the work of faith
And remains faithful to his promises even if we believe not after faith

The gifts and calling of God are IRREVOCABLE <---Do you understand this word?

SAVED TO THE UTTERMOST <--Do you understand this word

Kept by the power of GOD THROUGH FAITH <--The same faith he begins, finishes and COMPLETES IN US
 
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Your last two posts are perfectly done.
I don't know what the problem could be.
Don't get confused....
Except for the fact they are false and not biblical.......It must be tragic to serve a faux Jesus that is not in the bible Fran.....one that does not finish and complete the work of faith he begins, one that does forsake you and leave you, one that does not save to the uttermost and or keep by his power through the faith he begins, finishes and completes.......
 
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Except for the fact they are false and not biblical.......It must be tragic to serve a faux Jesus that is not in the bible Fran.....one that does not finish and complete the work of faith he begins, one that does forsake you and leave you, one that does not save to the uttermost and or keep by his power through the faith he begins, finishes and completes.......
I was referring to the problem with posting quotes.
He was doing good.

We'll find out who was serving the false God when we get to him.
 
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"but faith can be lost" and that is what is critical......
How can we lose what was given to us by God, our Faith; no our Faith cannot be lost a very foolish idea.

1 Peter 1:5
who through faith are protected by God's power for the salvation that is ready to be revealed in the last time.
 
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How can we lose what was given to us by God, our Faith; no our Faith cannot be lost a very foolish idea.

1 Peter 1:5
who through faith are protected by God's power for the salvation that is ready to be revealed in the last time.
...At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come. Matthew 24:10-14
 

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but faith can be lost and that is what is critical......

WRONG!

Counterfeit Faith can be LOST, but NOT GENUINE FAITH.

1 John 2:19 (HCSB)
19 They went out from us, but they did not belong to us; for if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us. However, they went out so that it might be made clear that none of them belongs to us.


THOSE WHO APPEAR TO HAVE FALLEN AWAY, WERE NEVER BORN AGAIN IN THE FIRST PLACE.


1 Peter 1:3-6 (HCSB)
3 Praise the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. According to His great mercy, He has given us a new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead
4 and into an inheritance that is imperishable, uncorrupted, and unfading, kept in heaven for you.
5 You are being protected by God’s power through faith for a salvation that is ready to be revealed in the last time.
6 You rejoice in this, though now for a short time you have had to struggle in various trials

John 10:26-30 (HCSB)
26 But you don’t believe because you are not My sheep.
27 My sheep hear My voice, I know them, and they follow Me.
28 I give them eternal life, and they will never perish—ever! No one will snatch them out of My hand.
29 My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all. No one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand.
30 The Father and I are one.”


IT IS NOT ETERNAL IF YOU CAN LOSE IT.


John 3:3-7 (HCSB)
3 Jesus replied, “I assure you: Unless someone is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”
4 “But how can anyone be born when he is old?” Nicodemus asked Him. “Can he enter his mother’s womb a second time and be born?”
5 Jesus answered, “I assure you: Unless someone is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.
6 Whatever is born of the flesh is flesh, and whatever is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7 Do not be amazed that I told you that you must be born again.


IF YOU ARE BORN AGAIN, THE HOLY SPIRIT GIVES YOUR HUMAN SPIRIT ETERNAL LIFE.
ONLY BORN AGAIN BELIEVERS GO TO HEAVEN.


Romans 11:6 (HCSB)
6 Now if by grace, then it is not by works; otherwise grace ceases to be grace.



OBEDIENCE IS NOT PART OF SALVATION, IT IS PART OF OUR LOVE FOR HIM. OUR LOVE FOR HIM, SPAWNS OUT OF HIS LOVE FOR US, THAT LOVE THAT THE MOMENT THE HOLY SPIRIT ENTERS OUR HEARTS (HUMAN SPIRIT), HE POURS INTO OUR HEARTS.


Romans 5:5 (HCSB)
5 This hope will not disappoint ⌊us⌋, because God’s love has been poured out in our hearts through the Holy Spirit who was given to us.



SALVATION happens the MOMENT the HOLY SPIRIT ENTERS YOUR HEART after you Genuinely Repent, RECEIVING JESUS CHRIST AS LORD, meaning MASTER; our of pure LOVE coming from your HEART (Human Spirit).

SANCTIFICATION is a life long process that will arrive at perfection the DAY HE gives us the Resurrected Body that cannot even think SIN. Therefore Sanctification is Conforming our bodies to WALK LIKE CHRIST.
 

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Except for the fact they are false and not biblical.......It must be tragic to serve a faux Jesus that is not in the bible Fran.....one that does not finish and complete the work of faith he begins, one that does forsake you and leave you, one that does not save to the uttermost and or keep by his power through the faith he begins, finishes and completes.......
AMEN, very good Post. Are you back home or Down Under? We got 8 inches of snow in the last 24 hours.