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dcontroversal

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Praying your trip goes well .
Blessings
Bill
Thanks Bro.....leaving Sydney about 2:40 and have about 15 hours in air to Dallas....then couple hours layover then a quick flight to St. Louis....get in about 4:30 the same day I leave....haha time travel is possible hahaha
 

stonesoffire

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...At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come. Matthew 24:10-14
Question for all:

I just read Matthew 24 but started at the beginning of the chapter. Could it be that Jesus was speaking of different periods to come?

Jesus is beginning to speak of the Temple being torn down. The disciples then ask what will be the sign of the end of the "age". Some translations say end of the world. But look at the words in your concordances. I believe He is calling the temple being destroyed and the dispersion then of the Jews the end of the age. The age of the nation? Jews?

Then He begins to speak of signs of the end of time.

Also the abomination of desolation. Is this really a man? Or was it the roman army doing its destruction?

I read the ISV.

Another thing and this is a completely different topic but bear with me a bit.

In the KJV, it says...

Luke 16:16 The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.

ISV...

Luke 16:16 "The Law and the Prophets remained until John. Since then, the good news about the kingdom of God has been proclaimed, and everyone entering it is under attack.

The ISV makes sense. Christians are attacked. Jesus said the sword would divide us. Plus it goes with the Greek.

Perhaps we need to approach the Word differently?

Am not trying to bash the Bible here and cause a ruckus about errors in scripture for scripture is God breathed. Men make errors not God.
 

Laish

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Thanks Bro.....leaving Sydney about 2:40 and have about 15 hours in air to Dallas....then couple hours layover then a quick flight to St. Louis....get in about 4:30 the same day I leave....haha time travel is possible hahaha
Your from St. Louis?
I have family in Alton Illinois. Just across the big crick
Blessings
Bill
 

dcontroversal

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Your from St. Louis?
I have family in Alton Illinois. Just across the big crick
Blessings
Bill
I have 50 acres and 9100 square feet of cabins in Mark Twain National Forest about 70 miles south west of St. Louis...that is where I fly in and out of.....
 

dcontroversal

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Question for all:

I just read Matthew 24 but started at the beginning of the chapter. Could it be that Jesus was speaking of different periods to come?

Jesus is beginning to speak of the Temple being torn down. The disciples then ask what will be the sign of the end of the "age". Some translations say end of the world. But look at the words in your concordances. I believe He is calling the temple being destroyed and the dispersion then of the Jews the end of the age. The age of the nation? Jews?

Then He begins to speak of signs of the end of time.

Also the abomination of desolation. Is this really a man? Or was it the roman army doing its destruction?

I read the ISV.

Another thing and this is a completely different topic but bear with me a bit.

In the KJV, it says...

Luke 16:16 The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.

ISV...

Luke 16:16 "The Law and the Prophets remained until John. Since then, the good news about the kingdom of God has been proclaimed, and everyone entering it is under attack.

The ISV makes sense. Christians are attacked. Jesus said the sword would divide us. Plus it goes with the Greek.

Perhaps we need to approach the Word differently?

Am not trying to bash the Bible here and cause a ruckus about errors in scripture for scripture is God breathed. Men make errors not God.
Matthew 24 contains dual prophecy in my view....part of it is directed at the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans and the rest is applicable to the end of the age.....If I remember right it is actually one question in Greek with 3 different aspects......been a while though so don't quote me on that part ;) And as you know I am fully post trib pre wrath ingathering......!
 

dcontroversal

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Well......My last night in Sydney after a 6 week trip....always sad to leave...went to the beach today, staying in a nice 5 star hotel in Sydney, had an excellent filet (steak) at a really nice Italian resturant, good company, good times and as always, thankful to the Lord for all the abundant blessings I do not deserve..........Always have mixed feelings about flying back to the U.S........ :) and :(
 

GodsGrace101

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Well......My last night in Sydney after a 6 week trip....always sad to leave...went to the beach today, staying in a nice 5 star hotel in Sydney, had an excellent filet (steak) at a really nice Italian resturant, good company, good times and as always, thankful to the Lord for all the abundant blessings I do not deserve..........Always have mixed feelings about flying back to the U.S........ :) and :(
I know how you feel ....
Same for me re italy till we moved here.
Not easy to understand for those without the experience.;
 

GodsGrace101

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Yeah....I just call them cabins because they are in the National Forest....off grid, generate my own power, sat t.v. and internet etc....have to drive about 250 meters on 4 wheeler to get cell service ;)
Hate to be nosey......but what are they for? Rentg?
 

dcontroversal

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I know how you feel ....
Same for me re italy till we moved here.
Not easy to understand for those without the experience.;
Yeah, I hear ya....I have been here 21 times last three and a half years....spent as much time here as in the U.S. and consider Australia my second home....Just turned 52 yesterday and was here for Xmas and New Years.....same last year
 

GodsGrace101

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Yeah, I hear ya....I have been here 21 times last three and a half years....spent as much time here as in the U.S. and consider Australia my second home....Just turned 52 yesterday and was here for Xmas and New Years.....same last year
Happy birthday D.
Be happy....you can always go back.
Consider it a nice part of your life.

When I became born again, you were about 7.
And here we are.
We're lucky to know God.
I wish my whole family was saved.
:(
 

dcontroversal

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Happy birthday D.
Be happy....you can always go back.
Consider it a nice part of your life.

When I became born again, you were about 7.
And here we are.
We're lucky to know God.
I wish my whole family was saved.
:(
I was seven when I sought to be saved....and wore number 7 on my baseball uniform.....the number of completion...hah