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We do not need people calling me out on it.
Your posts are the proof.

Posting s cripture means stating the book, chapter and verse
So we could read it for ourselves.

It does Not mean posting a sentence with some scriptural words in it.
That is the one of the most idiotic things you have said....

and the bolded is a lie yet again....I direct quote verses ALL the time....zero honesty with this one you all....
 

blue_ladybug

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See..not what I said....You cannot help but embellish everything Fran....exactly why you do not have a correct message.......
She even thinks that unless book, chapter and verse are not given, that scripture quoted is not truly scripture.. :/
 

stillness

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I know the verse and have quoted it a 1000 times.......It pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe........and you are wrong migo....I trust in the word and what it states about my salvation.......and I fully trust in the imputed righteousness of Christ by faith and I fully trust in the words of Christ and words of Christ through PAUL....he has saved me to the uttermost by his power, he began the work of faith in me, he will finish the work of faith in me and he will complete the work of faith in me....he keeps my by his power, will never leave me, never forsake me and he seals my by his spirit of promise......that is what I trust in.......so please man.....if you are going to judge my heart, make sure you judge me correctly...........
I did not intend to judge, surprizing how it comes out that way but what I'm saying is wen we judge others as not of God, we judge ourselves, not discerning them as members of the body of Christ. I don't judge you as not of God because the more I go on, I don't Judge. Though I was warning you about judging others. I live in a recovery center and have learned the hard way not to judge even unbelievers here, yet I can't fellowship with them. I came to see literally like you, that "For this cause we both labour and suffer reproach because we believe Jesus is the saviour of all men especially of them that believe. Those under the law would oppose this, yet God is still their saviour, this is where we differ. That we shall all give account of ourselves to God. So ya am actually warning you about judging yourself harshly, you make me think of Peter a natural overconfident leader, and you already would know not the ask, "what about John, "If I let him live until I return what's it to you, you follow me."
 
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Jesus did not come to abolish the law.
Matthew 5:17.
He fulfilled it....better yet!!

If he had abolished it we would be sunk....no redeemer.:)

Good news He fulfilled it perfectly....... so we are without blemish in Him!!!
 
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She even thinks that unless book, chapter and verse are not given, that scripture quoted is not truly scripture.. :/
I know....zero honesty.....and anyone with eyes in their head that can read can see that most times I direct quote verses......NO where does it state that book chapter and verse is inspired and or required to direct quote scripture.....

JESUS WEPT!
 
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People must be blind. Dcon posts scripture in several of his posts. Geesh, people can be oblivious. No wonder they can't recognize scripture.. :rolleyes:
AMEN BLUE..........and look......someone dislikes the truth of your post HAHAH man....so many on here with NO HONESTY or integrity.....crazy
 

blue_ladybug

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Didn't know there was a manual on the proper way to use scripture. Where does it say that not giving book, chapter and verse invalidate quoted scripture?
 
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I did not intend to judge, surprizing how it comes out that way but what I'm saying is wen we judge others as not of God, we judge ourselves, not discerning them as members of the body of Christ. I don't judge you as not of God because the more I go on, I don't Judge. Though I was warning you about judging others. I live in a recovery center and have learned the hard way not to judge even unbelievers here, yet I can't fellowship with them. I came to see literally like you, that "For this cause we both labour and suffer reproach because we believe Jesus is the saviour of all men especially of them that believe. Those under the law would oppose this, yet God is still their saviour, this is where we differ. That we shall all give account of ourselves to God. So ya am actually warning you about judging yourself harshly, you make me think of Peter a natural overconfident leader, and you already would know not the ask, "what about John, "If I let him live until I return what's it to you, you follow me."
Bro....it is not umbiblical to JUDGE ALL things by the word of God....up to and including one's dogma, what they belief, what religion they espouse and or what they say in here......when one devalues the blood of Christ, the works of Christ, the promises of Christ, the power of Christ, denies verb tense, the very verbiage of the bible, context and then say that they MUST help JESUS get them across the finish LINE I will, without remorse, and or without regret believe and say that they are false and not of GOD.......
 
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UnderGrace

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Five Guys is calling my name.......is there a scripture for that:LOL:

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Gotta go........
 

stonesoffire

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Now you're changing your story.
Even if we Do lose our faith.... Thank you for accepting that faith can be lost.

And even if we do lose our faith..... We're Still saved.

Thanks for clarifying what I've been saying all along about those that believe in OSAS.

Which is:
We can believe and have faith....
Or Not have faith and Still be saved.

This goes against everything the NT teaches.
So you believe in a false gospel.
Not by any means. You read everything in negativity.
Does faithless mean no faith? Or is it wavering. Doubt.

If so? No one is saved.
 

TruthTalk

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Posting scripture means stating the book, chapter and verse
So we could read it for ourselves.


It does Not mean posting a sentence with some scriptural words in it.
Are you serious try using a little kindness and you may get better results.
 

Guojing

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Now you're changing your story.
Even if we Do lose our faith.... Thank you for accepting that faith can be lost.

And even if we do lose our faith..... We're Still saved.

Thanks for clarifying what I've been saying all along about those that believe in OSAS.

Which is:
We can believe and have faith....
Or Not have faith and Still be saved.

This goes against everything the NT teaches.
So you believe in a false gospel.
Interesting, if all of us believe that salvation is a free gift that we receive because we believe, which is what God says by faith.

Can we lose that free gift later on by disbelieving and thus become "unsaved"? How does one disbelieve?
 

Argueless

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Yes, all sin was paid for in full.
If the church in Ephesus was done with their salvation as the OSAS group claim, what's the sense of admonishing them to REPENT and OBEY what they heard and received, and warning them that if they don't wake up He will be coming like a thief?

If what Jesus finished on the cross is "SALVATION", then He will no longer come a second time to bring salvation to those who are eagerly awaiting for Him, those who will be presented to Jesus as a pure virgin and to God, holy, unblemished and free from accusations.

... I promised you to one husband, to Christ, so that I might present you as a pure virgin to him. But I am afraid that just as Eve was DECEIVED by the serpent’s cunning, your minds may somehow be LED ASTRAY from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ.

...But now he has reconciled you by Christ’s physical body through death TO PRESENT YOU holy in his sight, without blemish and free from accusation—

Aren't you RUNNING AHEAD of everyone else? Or have you reached the GOAL apart from the Body of Christ of which He is the savior?

...For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Ephesians 5:23

...And this is love: that we walk in obedience to his commands. As you have heard from the beginning, his command is that you walk in love. ANYONE WHO RUNS AHEAD and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God; whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. 2 John 1:6,9

I'll stop here and maybe wait for your rejection or hopefully for a humble acceptance of the Word.
James 1:19-27. Thanks and God bless.
 

stillness

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You misquote at times.
USE SCRIPTURE.... the right way.
Interesting, if all of us believe that salvation is a free gift that we receive because we believe, which is what God says by faith.

Can we lose that free gift later on by disbelieving and thus become "unsaved"? How does one disbelieve?
"It sais if we believe not He remains faithful," this means if we follow Him not. As to how it happens, whatever is not of Faith is sin. "His mercy is new every morning, Great is Your Faithfulness," Lord to us.
 

Guojing

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"It sais if we believe not He remains faithful," this means if we follow Him not. As to how it happens, whatever is not of Faith is sin. "His mercy is new every morning, Great is Your Faithfulness," Lord to us.
Yep, so I see you lean more towards OSAS right? You cannot lose that gift after you receive it when you believe.