Not By Works

[eternally-gratefull]

Jesus said of judas- .... one of you is a devil...

is. present tense.

not will be at the last supper.

judas was only using Jesus to try to start a rebellion against rome.

Jesus, of course, knew this. and, satan did not enter judas until judas made the final decision to betray Jesus at the last supper.

It can not be proven, but we are finding there was a group of jews called the ischari (spelling) it is believed judas was one of these, hence the name ischariot, on e he realised he chose the wrong man, he tried to save face, and was made a fool of by the priests. Thats why he killed himself.

 

[Goodnewsman]

Here is the post.

She answered you, you may not have agreed with her answer, but she did.

And this proves that I yelled at her???

 

[PennEd]

Judas had the power of God to cast out devil's. Matthew 10:1

Did not Jesus say Satan can't cast out Satan.....house divided can't stand

Acts 1 Peter said said Judas fell by transgression

John 13 says it wasn't until Last supper after Jesus gave him the sop that Satan entered into him

How much Bible shall I give you??

Being a deceiver with scripture is a bad practice for anyone including you or any pastor

But that's just the point. He HAD the power, just like the guys that said they performed a bunch of stuff in His Name yet JESUS NEVER KNEW THEM.

Scripture says Satan entered Judas way AFTER being sent out to cast out demons. It shows you how powerful the Name of Jesus is that even unbelievers sometimes can evoke it with success.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I did not yell I was using a little sarcasm..... To be honest I don't even know what the Red X does never gave one I have no idea what they are for. I assume they are not good because I read where are you and Dcon complained about getting them

I mean my goodness man we are supposed to be soldiers in the army of the Lord....... Not little snowflakes getting offended and every little thing

I never complained about getting one man. Red x’s do not phase me, i could care less.. Get real.

And what you did was mock, you said she gave a red x because she could not answer.

 

[dcontroversal]

you still didn't answer the questions........your the one that responded to the post now to scared to answer what you really believe.

if you are a christian and die hating your brother, do you go to heaven or hell? why are you afraid to answer your own doctrine?

if you are a christian, and in a fit of anger kill someone, do you still have eternal life?

1 John 3:15 (KJV)
15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.

everyone reading this knows this is what you peddle......man up and own it

i've notice when you cant answer the question you just resort to name calling with a mean spirit

yes david committed murder but have you read psalms 51 where David repented.....the whole 51 chapter is David repenting saying things like:

"cast me not away from they presence and take not thy Holy Spirit from me" (i'm sure you screamed at your bible "David, don't be silly once you got the Spirit, you cant lose it")

"Wash me throughly from mine iniquity, and cleanse me from my sin. "

"Purge me with hyssop, and I shall be clean: wash me, and I shall be whiter than snow."

"Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me. "

"Restore unto me the joy of thy salvation; and uphold me with thy free spirit."

"Then will I teach transgressors thy ways; and sinners shall be converted unto thee."

"Deliver me from bloodguiltiness, O God, thou God of my salvation: and my tongue shall sing aloud of thy righteousness."

the difference between you and David is you don't believe you HAVE to repent like David did and you would still go to heaven

A. You must be as dense as lead
B. David asked for the JOY of his salvation to be restored..NOT his salvation

And do not address me, deceivers and those dishonest and or lying about what I believe = no honor or integrity......you have neither

 

[eternally-gratefull]

And this proves that I yelled at her???

Lets excuse our sin,

I come ro expect that from certain groups

 

[Goodnewsman]

Jesus said of judas- .... one of you is a devil...

is. present tense.

not will be at the last supper.

judas was only using Jesus to try to start a rebellion against rome.

Jesus, of course, knew this. and, satan did not enter judas until judas made the final decision to betray Jesus at the last supper.

All of his disciples thought Jesus woild overthrow Rome and establish his kingdom on this Earth

 

[dcontroversal]

I never complained about getting one man. Red x’s do not phase me, i could care less.. Get real.

And what you did was mock, you said she gave a red x because she could not answer.

Does not offend me either...my point what the inconsistency of the application..........but hey...NOHONORNEWSMAN.....gotta mouth.....

 

[dcontroversal]

All of his disciples thought Jesus woild overthrow Rome and establish his kingdom on this Earth

Book chapter and verse.....emphasis upon the word ALL of his disciples thought this....

 

[Sackcloth-N-Ashes]

I miss brother @preacher4truth 's participation in this forum! he has been a blessing to me

I miss brother @Sackcloth-N-Ashes too.

They used to post regularly! Then we started agreeing a lot...... Next thing you know we had the hyper-dispensational heretics ducking and running! We havent heard from them since! We sent the hyper-calvinist hardshell baptists packin too!

Ehhh, when you start putting ppl on ignore, you can’t follow their Not by(God’s) work thread. Yet, they are working themselves soooo hard to get there.

 

[Goodnewsman]

A. You must be as dense as lead
B. David asked for the JOY of his salvation to be restored..NOT his salvation

And do not address me, deceivers and those dishonest and or lying about what I believe = no honor or integrity......you have neither

You are such a dishonest snowflake with no integrity about you whatsoever

How can you call yourself a Christian and be so deceitful

I see you left out the part or David prayed cast me not away from thy presence and take not thy Holy Spirit from me

 

[eternally-gratefull]

All of his disciples thought Jesus woild overthrow Rome and establish his kingdom on this Earth

Yet not all of them ranwhen they realised it was not to be, only one did, because he never believed

 

[dcontroversal]

Yep,

Forgive not as in restore salvation, but as in restore our fellowship

Salvation was taken care of on the cross

Have you looked at john 6 yet?

They cannot help but conflate the two....keeps their members in line and the building full on Sunday.....more BONDAGE.......

 

[eternally-gratefull]

You are such a dishonest snowflake with no integrity about you whatsoever

How can you call yourself a Christian and be so deceitful

I see you left out the part or David prayed cast me not away from thy presence and take not thy Holy Spirit from me

Holy spirit was not given to all people in the ot, it was not proof, or guarantee of salvation. He was given to certain people. For certain purposes. you should know that..

 

[dcontroversal]

You are such a dishonest snowflake with no integrity about you whatsoever

How can you call yourself a Christian and be so deceitful

I see you left out the part or David prayed cast me not away from thy presence and take not thy Holy Spirit from me

I left nothing out...........and you obviously do not understand the difference between fellowship and SONSHIP...........get your facts straight NOHONORNEWSMAN

 

[dcontroversal]

Hope you enjoy the slavery

Me, i will rest in christ. Who is not a spirit of fear, but my adoptive abba

Thank God for being set free form these foolish, self saving, I keep myself saved lies...........nothing but false religion that binds men under that which they cannot even hope to keep........

IRREVOCABLE means IRREVOCABLE and GOD inspired this word for a reason......but hey, I fully expect the task masters to reject this word.....

 

[dcontroversal]

Yes i can

all the verses that say HATH eternal life.

my argument works better than yours because ETERNAL means everlasting, so i can point to that and say thats why it cant be lost etc.

AMEN brother......eternal and everlasting do no mean temporal and IRREVOCABLE means exactly that..........

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Thank God for being set free form these foolish, self saving, I keep myself saved lies...........nothing but false religion that binds men under that which they cannot even hope to keep........

IRREVOCABLE means IRREVOCABLE and GOD inspired this word for a reason......but hey, I fully expect the task masters to reject this word.....

Words and their meaning seem to mean nothing.

Eternal means conditional. Not revocable means might not be revoked. Not by works, means but by works.

 

[dcontroversal]

You obviously do not KNOW a Hoot about OSAS Beliefs. Only WHAT YOUR PEOPLE think we Believe.

You need to check out my post #87,123, because I just finished earlier today explaining our REAL Beliefs to Chester.

AMEN..............another mis-truth peddled by the workers for and salvation losers......

 

[dcontroversal]

Words and their meaning seem to mean nothing.

Eternal means conditional. Not revocable means might not be revoked. Not by works, means but by works.

HAH I know....and like Miss Priss did yesterday......cannot be earned, must be earned HAHAHHAHHA one inconsistency after aother.......