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Budman

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I still want the liars to show me where I examined anyone's fruit in regard to salvation. If you don't, it means that everyone who said it is A LIAR.
Again - yes or no - did you not repeatedly state that fruit is the proof one's salvation is "genuine"?
 

stonesoffire

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Again - yes or no - did you not repeatedly state that fruit is the proof one's salvation is "genuine"?
Oh, budman. His statement is an overall statement. Yours is personal.

Not the same thing. Entrapment is exposed.
 
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Again - yes or no - did you not repeatedly state that fruit is the proof one's salvation is "genuine"?
NO, JESUS DID.

And that is not examining anyone's fruit, that is stating a biblical fact. SO I call out you and GB9 and anyone else who accused me of examining other people's fruits AS LIARS
 

stonesoffire

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He created the universe which is based on laws, spiritual does not exclude rational.
If God was not rational we would be in big trouble.
Where does rational appear in scripture? Wisdom maybe. Rational? Never saw it. Wisdom is greater
 

Budman

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Oh, budman. His statement is an overall statement. Yours is personal.

Not the same thing. Entrapment is exposed.
Oh, stonesoffire, it's both general and also personal, as it applies to individuals regarding whether or not they produce the fruit he says is "proof" of genuine salvation.

Logical fallacy exposed.
 

Budman

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NO, JESUS DID.

And that is not examining anyone's fruit, that is stating a biblical fact. SO I call out you and GB9 and anyone else who accused me of examining other people's fruits AS LIARS
Does the statement apply to individuals here or not?
 

stonesoffire

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Oh, stonesoffire, it's both general and also personal, as it applies to individuals regarding whether or not they produce the fruit he says is "proof" of genuine salvation.

Logical fallacy exposed.
Fruit would be the evidence of Holy Spirit within.
 

Budman

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And you should calm down, Macabeus. Just because you're losing this debate splendidly, doesn't mean you have to get all angry about it.
 
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And you should calm down, Macabeus. Just because you're losing this debate splendidly, doesn't mean you have to get all angry about it.
I don't care about winning a debate, and that just shows that you are in this for the wrong reason. If what you care about is winning a debate, you should sit down and shut up, because you are guilty of lying. Stating a general scriptural principle is not examing fruit. If that were so, everytime someone preaches a sermon that fornication, or lying, or adultery is sinful would be judging and examining individuals. You got caught in a lie and you can't escape. People who are winning debates don't need to lie.
 

stonesoffire

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Yet again, by that logic, Mormons, JW's, Catholics, etc., are Holy Spirit filled Christians.

I don't know about mormons or JWs but I know many Catholics are.

Fruit of the Spirit though. Whatcha mean to you? Bananas, oranges, lemons?