Hi FHS,
Page 5011, post 100,207
gb9 posted and asked
"The truth is that when one comes to Christ, that person is forgiven and saved the moment they truly believe and accept Jesus as Lord and Saviour,
Agree or disagree??
Your response was
I addressed with you that basically you do not agree because you took faith out of equation.
And asked if that was the case.
You responded with
Now that response was different from the one you gave to gb9.
I have no idea whether you are trying to earn your salvation or not.
But given your response to gb9 it seems so.
To suggest that I believe genuine believers who want to follow Jesus and doomed to hell for doing so is totally disingenuous.
I have never ever ever ever suggested or implied anything of the sort, and never would.
You obviously have not read enough of my posts and experiences of life and how it has affected my walk with Jesus.
And everything he has had to do in me to take the crutches I walked on.
I agree totally with those who like me believe that we are saved by faith out of which we want to be like Jesus, that's our walk, our calling.
The people who in your quote above want to be Jesus that I believe are going to hell, is not what I'm saying nor those who believe what I do.
The problem for me that I see is that you say they do.
Your posts and responses are all over the place.
Even when I can see agreement you cannot.
It's like you are right and everyone is wrong.
As you say
Conversations have to work both ways.
Page 5011, post 100,207
gb9 posted and asked
"The truth is that when one comes to Christ, that person is forgiven and saved the moment they truly believe and accept Jesus as Lord and Saviour,
Agree or disagree??
Your response was
I addressed with you that basically you do not agree because you took faith out of equation.
And asked if that was the case.
You responded with
Now that response was different from the one you gave to gb9.
I have no idea whether you are trying to earn your salvation or not.
But given your response to gb9 it seems so.
To suggest that I believe genuine believers who want to follow Jesus and doomed to hell for doing so is totally disingenuous.
I have never ever ever ever suggested or implied anything of the sort, and never would.
You obviously have not read enough of my posts and experiences of life and how it has affected my walk with Jesus.
And everything he has had to do in me to take the crutches I walked on.
I agree totally with those who like me believe that we are saved by faith out of which we want to be like Jesus, that's our walk, our calling.
The people who in your quote above want to be Jesus that I believe are going to hell, is not what I'm saying nor those who believe what I do.
The problem for me that I see is that you say they do.
Your posts and responses are all over the place.
Even when I can see agreement you cannot.
It's like you are right and everyone is wrong.
As you say
Conversations have to work both ways.
We say a sentence within a context in our minds, and it makes sense to us.
Another reads it, adding their own context which changes its meaning.
This makes things quite confusing. It is not confusing to say someone is speaking "a sick lie"
You agreed with this without correction or equivocation. There is a large difference between accepting
someone knows Jesus is walking in His ways and desires to be like Jesus, and someone else is saying this
person believes they are not saved until they reach a certain behaviour.
This is not a difficult point to make, but pure slander if wrong. And that is not something as followers of
Jesus we should be doing, slandering others.
And some do believe staying like the world is ok as a believer. Whether as part of this forum or otherwise,
it is a belief system of some. So this matters to me, especially here where it is claimed the Lord is being
honoured.
Today I saw the tight rope of the walk of faith, and noticed some do not see it, or even care it is there
and are quite happy to fall to their deaths, believing Christ has kept them safe.
But you agree with gb9, so God bless you, I know where you stand, thank you for that.