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UnderGrace

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Pious holier than thou people probably reported one of his posts.

Probably the telemarketing person he told to do you know what.

Probably thinking "Im glad I do not swear at someone like this sinner"

Plank and spec come to mind.

I hope he is back soon.
It was probably that whole banter.... but we are not supposed to speculate I am told.
Anyway I agree I hope he comes back soon.
We need more with the Truth here!!
 

VCO

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Paul talked about this simply

3 I care very little if I am judged by you or by any human court; indeed, I do not even judge myself.
4 My conscience is clear, but that does not make me innocent. It is the Lord who judges me.
5 Therefore judge nothing before the appointed time; wait till the Lord comes. He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of men's hearts. At that time each will receive his praise from God.
1 Cor 4
YOUR INTERPRETATION IS WRONG:

Ecclesiastes 7:20 (NKJV)
20 For there is not a just man on earth who does good And does not sin.

Psalm 16:7 (HCSB)
7 I will praise the LORD who counsels me— even at night my conscience instructs me.

Romans 13:1-8 (HCSB)
1 Everyone must submit to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except from God, and those that exist are instituted by God.
2 So then, the one who resists the authority is opposing God’s command, and those who oppose it will bring judgment on themselves.
3 For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have its approval.
4 For government is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, because it does not carry the sword for no reason. For government is God’s servant, an avenger that brings wrath on the one who does wrong.
5 Therefore, you must submit, not only because of wrath, but also because of your conscience.
6 And for this reason you pay taxes, since the ⌊authorities⌋ are God’s public servants, continually attending to these tasks.
7 Pay your obligations to everyone: taxes to those you owe taxes, tolls to those you owe tolls, respect to those you owe respect, and honor to those you owe honor.
8 Do not owe anyone anything, except to love one another, for the one who loves another has fulfilled the law.
 

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I just had to shut my TV off, and come here to REPORT the lasted plot of the Devil. I NEVER WATCH THE PROGRAM "ANCIENT ALIENS", but that was the program that was on, when I turned the TV on. I was more interested in my GOOD cup of Coffee, than what was on TV. So it played for a few minutes, and THEN I HEARD A BLASPHEMOUS STATEMENT, that exposed what they are up too. They said, "It appears that King Solomon may have had OTHER ALIEN WORLD CONNECTIONS, and might not Jesus of Nazarous had other ALIEN WORLD CONNECTIONS TOO?"

I SHUT MY TV OFF QUICKLY, and now the DECEIVING SPIRITS BEHIND THE PROGRAM - BEGINS. They have been having this program with the ulterior motive for a couple years now, and NOW there MOTIVE is OBVIOUS, to GET PEOPLE TO DOUBT that JESUS WAS DEITY. They want you to believe that the Power of JESUS came from Other Alien Worldly Connections. This Program has taken over The HISTORY Channel. Which used to have only the Programs pertaining to History, and programs like American Pickers aired on it.

The Reason I have hated that program, ever since it started, is I was in the U.S. Air Force, when the SR71 was cleared of flight testing, and first went into Service. I went past the Runway on the way to work the Day the SR71 first landed, and here is the first GLIMPSE of that AIR CRAFT that I personally saw, and it made me do a double take thinking it was ALIEN LOOKING.



The bird was sighted by civilians and reported as a UFO, all thru it's Test Training and beyond. It was classified as Top Secret when it arrived at out base. We were told if someone asked us about the strange bird: "I don't know about any such aircraft. As far as I know, it does not exist." When it would land after a mission, it would go straight into the hanger, and the doors closed, with MP's to guard it.
Yes it is decommissioned now, BUT don't you think there are other Top Secret Aircraft, that the General Public does not KNOW ABOUT?
AND I LAUGH anytime some one mentions a UFO.

I even had a guy on another thread mention about a year ago: "I never thought they existed, but I saw a genuine UFO tonight, a big orange ball hovering in the sky, and then took off at high speed, and out of sight." I used to live 3 miles from the TOP GUN SCHOOL, and I saw that scene frequently lighting up the night sky. The F-35 can hover in the sky, and take off from that hover, when the afterburner is kicked on, and all you can see on a pitch black night, is the ORANGE LIGHT OF THE SINGLE AFTERBURNER. So much for UFO REPORTS.

Imagine what this looks like on a Pitch Black Night.
There is your Orange Ball lighting up the sky at night.
 
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Susanna

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I’m a little disappointed that Smooth got banned because he didn’t get a chance to make a response to my last insult to him.
 

BillG

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It was probably that whole banter.... but we are not supposed to speculate I am told.
Anyway I agree I hope he comes back soon.
We need more with the Truth here!!
For me what is sad is he made a post.
My assumption is that what we he said he actually did he did.

Then he asked the question "Have I now lost my salvation?

Now correct me if I'm wrong.

I cannot recall a response from those who believe you can say he has lost it.

Yet those who believe in ES did respond.
Some with a laughing face and some with gentle correction.

Yes when I read his post I laughed.

Let's be honest how many of us have not said it ourselves verbally but in our thoughts have said it?
@blue_ladybug made a valid point.

At least she tried to correct in love and sneek behind the scenes.
 

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I’m a little disappointed that Smooth got banned because he didn’t get a chance to make a response to my last insult to him.
you are evil. i knew it before this just confirms it. why are u on a christian forum even? i will put you to ignore list. repent and stop discrediting bible in other threads and now this? sad woman
 

stonesoffire

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I’m still way behind going back and forth from where I am to the last page. I don’t believe smooth was banned for that specific question about the telemarketer, but for the remarks that he made to Follow.

I moderated for another forum long ago, and would of had to ban him too. But, could be wrong. Still I don’t believe I am.
 
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UnderGrace

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For me what is sad is he made a post.
My assumption is that what we he said he actually did he did.

Then he asked the question "Have I now lost my salvation?

Now correct me if I'm wrong.

I cannot recall a response from those who believe you can say he has lost it.

Yet those who believe in ES did respond.
Some with a laughing face and some with gentle correction.

Yes when I read his post I laughed.

Let's be honest how many of us have not said it ourselves verbally but in our thoughts have said it?
@blue_ladybug made a valid point.

At least she tried to correct in love and sneek behind the scenes.
Went back and reread that portion it was quite inoffensive... I think Smooth was just trying to make a point and wanted to see if someone would state he lost his salvation, no one actually did make that response.
There were exchanges even before that with another member that may have been the issue.
 

BillG

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For me what is sad is he made a post.
My assumption is that what we he said he actually did he did.

Then he asked the question "Have I now lost my salvation?

Now correct me if I'm wrong.

I cannot recall a response from those who believe you can say he has lost it.

Yet those who believe in ES did respond.
Some with a laughing face and some with gentle correction.

Yes when I read his post I laughed.

Let's be honest how many of us have not said it ourselves verbally but in our thoughts have said it?
@blue_ladybug made a valid point.

At least she tried to correct in love and sneek behind the scenes.
Just to clarify

"At least she tried to correct in love and NOT sneek behind the scenes"
 
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UnderGrace

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I’m still way behind going back and forth from where I am to the last page. I don’t believe smooth was banned for that specific question about the telemarketer, but for the remarks that he made to Follow.

I moderated for another forum long ago, and would of had to ban him too. But, could be wrong. Still I don’t believe I am.
Sadly ... because some defend the Gospel (Eternal Security) so vigorously and because they know the Truth so deeply, and are willing to meet the falsehood straight on, pay the price.

The nonchalant person, lackadaisical in their conviction, rarely steps up to the bat.
 

stonesoffire

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Sadly ... because some defend the Gospel (Eternal Security) so vigorously and because they know the Truth so deeply, and are willing to meet the falsehood straight on, pay the price.

The nonchalant person, lackadaisical in their conviction, rarely steps up to the bat.
That’s true but rules are rules. It’s more laidback here.

We all need to learn how to speak the truth in love though and my finger points at me only.

Well that needs clarity..lol. I’m not going to single anyone out, just myself. There. That’s better. I hope. 😉
 

BillG

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Went back and reread that portion it was quite inoffensive... I think Smooth was just trying to make a point and wanted to see if someone would state he lost his salvation, no one actually did make that response.
There were exchanges even before that with another member that may have been the issue.
The same point I was trying to make.
Not one person on here who believes you can lose it responded?

Why is that?

Because they cannot define the marker or the line.

But they accuse OSAS (I like ES) and greasy gracers of preaching we can sin all we want and still be saved.
 
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UnderGrace

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That’s true but rules are rules. It’s more laidback here.

We all need to learn how to speak the truth in love though and my finger points at me only.

Well that needs clarity..lol. I’m not going to single anyone out, just myself. There. That’s better. I hope. 😉
Not sure what it means to speak truth in love?
 
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UnderGrace

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The same point I was trying to make.
Not one person on here who believes you can lose it responded?

Why is that?

Because they cannot define the marker or the line.

But they accuse OSAS (I like ES) and greasy gracers of preaching we can sin all we want and still be saved.
Excellent ... I thought that was the point!!

Good insight Mr. BillG..... yes I went back and reread.
 
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Susanna

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you are evil. i knew it before this just confirms it. why are u on a christian forum even? i will put you to ignore list. repent and stop discrediting bible in other threads and now this? sad woman
You do realize that you come across a little hypocritical when you’re looking down your nose at me like that and then boldly be stating that I’m evil?
 

VCO

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I just had to shut my TV off, and come here to REPORT the lasted plot of the Devil. I NEVER WATCH THE PROGRAM "ANCIENT ALIENS", but that was the program that was on, when I turned the TV on. I was more interested in my GOOD cup of Coffee, than what was on TV. So it played for a few minutes, and THEN I HEARD A BLASPHEMOUS STATEMENT, that exposed what they are up too. They said, "It appears that King Solomon may have had OTHER ALIEN WORLD CONNECTIONS, and might not Jesus of Nazarous had other ALIEN WORLD CONNECTIONS TOO?"

I SHUT MY TV OFF QUICKLY, and now the DECEIVING SPIRITS BEHIND THE PROGRAM - BEGINS. They have been having this program with the ulterior motive for a couple years now, and NOW there MOTIVE is OBVIOUS, to GET PEOPLE TO DOUBT that JESUS WAS DEITY. They want you to believe that the Power of JESUS came from Other Alien Worldly Connections. This Program has taken over The HISTORY Channel. Which used to have only the Programs pertaining to History, and programs like American Pickers aired on it.

The Reason I have hated that program, ever since it started, is I was in the U.S. Air Force, when the SR71 was cleared of flight testing, and first went into Service. I went past the Runway on the way to work the Day the SR71 first landed, and here is the first GLIMPSE of that AIR CRAFT that I personally saw, and it made me do a double take thinking it was ALIEN LOOKING.



The bird was sighted by civilians and reported as a UFO, all thru it's Test Training and beyond. It was classified as Top Secret when it arrived at out base. We were told if someone asked us about the strange bird: "I don't know about any such aircraft. As far as I know, it does not exist." When it would land after a mission, it would go straight into the hanger, and the doors closed, with MP's to guard it.
Yes it is decommissioned now, BUT don't you think there are other Top Secret Aircraft, that the General Public does not KNOW ABOUT?
AND I LAUGH anytime some one mentions a UFO.

I even had a guy on another thread mention about a year ago: "I never thought they existed, but I saw a genuine UFO tonight, a big orange ball hovering in the sky, and then took off at high speed, and out of sight." I used to live 3 miles from the TOP GUN SCHOOL, and I saw that scene frequently lighting up the night sky. The F-35 can hover in the sky, and take off from that hover, when the afterburner is kicked on, and all you can see on a pitch black night, is the ORANGE LIGHT OF THE SINGLE AFTERBURNER. So much for UFO REPORTS.

Imagine what this looks like on a Pitch Black Night.
There is your Orange Ball lighting up the sky at night.

AND IF YOU SEE TWO ORANGE BALLS AT NIGHT flying in tight formation , it is probably the afterburners of an F-22 Raptor.


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OR a F-A-18 Hornet
And this one is called OOPS! 1565991460179.jpeg
 
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I just had to shut my TV off, and come here to REPORT the lasted plot of the Devil. I NEVER WATCH THE PROGRAM "ANCIENT ALIENS", but that was the program that was on, when I turned the TV on. I was more interested in my GOOD cup of Coffee, than what was on TV. So it played for a few minutes, and THEN I HEARD A BLASPHEMOUS STATEMENT, that exposed what they are up too. They said, "It appears that King Solomon may have had OTHER ALIEN WORLD CONNECTIONS, and might not Jesus of Nazarous had other ALIEN WORLD CONNECTIONS TOO?"

I SHUT MY TV OFF QUICKLY, and now the DECEIVING SPIRITS BEHIND THE PROGRAM - BEGINS. They have been having this program with the ulterior motive for a couple years now, and NOW there MOTIVE is OBVIOUS, to GET PEOPLE TO DOUBT that JESUS WAS DEITY. They want you to believe that the Power of JESUS came from Other Alien Worldly Connections. This Program has taken over The HISTORY Channel. Which used to have only the Programs pertaining to History, and programs like American Pickers aired on it.

The Reason I have hated that program, ever since it started, is I was in the U.S. Air Force, when the SR71 was cleared of flight testing, and first went into Service. I went past the Runway on the way to work the Day the SR71 first landed, and here is the first GLIMPSE of that AIR CRAFT that I personally saw, and it made me do a double take thinking it was ALIEN LOOKING.



The bird was sighted by civilians and reported as a UFO, all thru it's Test Training and beyond. It was classified as Top Secret when it arrived at out base. We were told if someone asked us about the strange bird: "I don't know about any such aircraft. As far as I know, it does not exist." When it would land after a mission, it would go straight into the hanger, and the doors closed, with MP's to guard it.
Yes it is decommissioned now, BUT don't you think there are other Top Secret Aircraft, that the General Public does not KNOW ABOUT?
AND I LAUGH anytime some one mentions a UFO.

I even had a guy on another thread mention about a year ago: "I never thought they existed, but I saw a genuine UFO tonight, a big orange ball hovering in the sky, and then took off at high speed, and out of sight." I used to live 3 miles from the TOP GUN SCHOOL, and I saw that scene frequently lighting up the night sky. The F-35 can hover in the sky, and take off from that hover, when the afterburner is kicked on, and all you can see on a pitch black night, is the ORANGE LIGHT OF THE SINGLE AFTERBURNER. So much for UFO REPORTS.

Imagine what this looks like on a Pitch Black Night.
There is your Orange Ball lighting up the sky at night.
FOR THE RECORD--->I do not believe in ALIENS from other worlds. HAVING said that I have been in the military "Marine", used to watch jets of ever flavor come and go at El Toro, been to numerous air shows, numerous airports around the world and have family members that are pilots.....just to qualify what I am about to say....

Christmas night,at my house in Castleraegh, Australia at 10 P.M....we were all outside chatting because it is summer there at that time....Clear as a bell, no clouds, no wind, no sound and a solid RED light came cruising across the sky from the North, no sound whatsoever at all and it stopped on a DIME from SPEED right above us "numerous witnesses"....it hovered for about 30 seconds, split in two and in less than one second and a blink of an eye made the horizon and out of sight....one went NORTH and one went SOUTH....NO SOUND and like I said....from cruising at speed FASTER than any military JET I have seen to stopping on a DIME and then from a DEAD stop to faster than ANY JET I have seen fly and out of SIGHT in less than a second.....NO jet can do that...not even a Blackbird.......

WHAT was it.....NO IDEA....NONE of us had any explanation...........
 
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The same point I was trying to make.
Not one person on here who believes you can lose it responded?

Why is that?

Because they cannot define the marker or the line.

But they accuse OSAS (I like ES) and greasy gracers of preaching we can sin all we want and still be saved.
Why are you against once saved always saved......it is just another of saying saved eternally, eternal security, the security of the believer.....

To be honest is really bothers me that people who embrace eternal security have an issue with once saved always saved.
 
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Not sure what it means to speak truth in love?
AMEN....LOVE and TRUTH go hand in hand....when you tell someone the truth YOU ARE LOVING THEM......the bible bears this out.....I can tell you the problem....we are a society that has been coddled, we cannot deal with a little heat or sarcasm.....and we think that if we talk SMOOTH or NICE then we are showing love.....

WOW.....think about the above two truths.....

When JESUS was calling the Pharisees white washed coffins filled with the bones of dead men was he loving them?

WHEN Belshazzar was coddling and smoozing Daniel over his interpretation of the writing on the wall was HE loving Daniel?

SEE.......our humanistic view has tainted truth and skewed love into some wishy washy I must handle everyone with kid gloves on or I am not loving......sickening!!