Not By Works

[Lightskin]

You're way out in left field Mac.

Ding ding ding! Winner!

 

[Macabeus]

Whew! Thank goodness. I was beginning to worry about you, Norman.

How did you know I am Norman Fruitenbaum. How did you find out.

 

[Macabeus]

You're way out in left field Mac.

What? You don't believe that regeneration is an act of God alone? So how much did you put in? 5%? 10%? 50%?

 

[Lightskin]

How did you know I am Norman Fruitenbaum. How did you find out.

Get serious. Norman says it all.

 

[Macabeus]

Ding ding ding! Winner!

So how much regenerative energy did you provide in your regeneration?

 

[Macabeus]

Amen.....notice what the word keep means and yet they equate it to a working for salvation....

téreó: to watch over, to guard
Original Word: τηρέω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: téreó
Phonetic Spelling: (tay-reh'-o)
Definition: to watch over, to guard

Watch over and guard WHAT?

 

[KJV1611]

What? You don't believe that regeneration is an act of God alone? So how much did you put in? 5%? 10%? 50%?

Your spoon or your soul has ever been dead.

 

[Macabeus]

And yet Jesus teaches us that he will not lose even one who has been given to Him by our Heavenly Father.

who are kept by the power of God through faith for salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.

 

[Macabeus]

Your spoon or your soul has ever been dead.

What on earth does that mean?

 

[Macabeus]

wow wow wow

i never knew thats what the word keep means. to me keep means obey them. like how i tell you to change car tyre you say ok i do it. then i ask you did you keep my commands and you say yes.

thats amazing i will show that to someone else. why dont the translators put it like that?

It means this...

1 Peter 1: 5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.

God guards and protects our souls. He also protects our bodies at times, but this is talking about preserving, keeping, guarding the soul. Because it is KEPT UNTO SALVATION. God keeps us UNTO salvation. That can only mean preservation of spiritual life. Jesus will lose none of His sheep.

 

[Macabeus]

Your spoon or your soul has ever been dead.

I didn't say my soul was dead. I said Spirit was dead, spiritually dead. What do you suppose it means that we were dead in our sins, and then God quickened us (made us alive) with Christ?

Regeneration is a SPIRITUAL RESURRECTION. Only God raises the dead, whether physical or spiritual

So how much energy will you provide for the resurrection of your body? About the same ammount of energy you provided for the resurrection of your spirit

I'm glad to hear that you think I am in left field because I believe in spiritual death and spiritual resurrection. This is what happens when you believe. Before you believed you were dead in your trespasses and sins. Then God raised you to spiritual life.

I guess Lightskin doesn't believe in spiritual death, or do you Captain Lightskin?

 

[KJV1611]

Your spoon or your soul has ever been dead.

That should say spirit nor soul has ever been dead.

 

[Lightskin]

So how much regenerative energy did you provide in your regeneration?

Is that supposed to be clever? 🤷‍♂️

 

[Lightskin]

who are kept by the power of God through faith for salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.

Yeah, and?

 

[Macabeus]

Get serious. Norman says it all.

So how much effectual energy will you provide for the resurrection of your body? About the same ammount of effectual energy you provided for the resurrection of your spirit...NONE, NADA, Zilch, NIL.

 

[Macabeus]

Yeah, and?

Just thought you might like to know.

 

[Lightskin]

I didn't say my soul was dead. I said Spirit was dead, spiritually dead. What do you suppose it means that we were dead in our sins, and then God quickened us (made us alive) with Christ?

Regeneration is a SPIRITUAL RESURRECTION. Only God raises the dead, whether physical or spiritual

So how much energy will you provide for the resurrection of your body? About the same ammount of energy you provided for the resurrection of your spirit

I'm glad to hear that you think I am in left field because I believe in spiritual death and spiritual resurrection. This is what happens when you believe. Before you believed you were dead in your trespasses and sins. Then God raised you to spiritual life.

I guess Lightskin doesn't believe in spiritual death, or do you Captain Lightskin?

More incorrect projections. Your solitude is not becoming of you.

 

[Macabeus]

Is that supposed to be clever? 🤷‍♂️

No, it's a valid question. So how much effectual energy will you provide for the resurrection of your body? About the same ammount of effectual energy you provided for the resurrection of your spirit...NONE, NADA, Zilch, NIL.

 

[Lightskin]

Just thought you might like to know.

I wait with bated breath for you to share something substantive.

 

[Macabeus]

More incorrect projections. Your solitude is not becoming of you.

Well, KJV disagreed with the spiritual death part. Do you believe that we were dead spiritually and raised to life by the operation of God?

So how much effectual energy will you provide for the resurrection of your body? About the same ammount of effectual energy you provided for the resurrection of your spirit...