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blue_ladybug

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yes This happened to me for 5 years.

and not once in that 5 years did I lose faith that god saved me, I just lost faith in his provisions as a father, not as a savior.

we are saved because we have faith in god the savior. Not because we trust god to take care of our every need.

i did not lose my salvation, I lost my purpose and desire and found my own hell on this earth, which led me back to god. Because I then realized as the prodigal how broke I really was.

Yells at you to CAPITALIZE GOD'S NAME.... lol
 

blue_ladybug

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Lol

i walked away from god

i Had sexual relations with multiple woman, even though I was still technically married

i drank heavily

i stopped giving the gospel or even living like I was my fathers son, no one could tell I was a believer.

by definition, that is turning from god

i did not STOP believing, because I could not, because I still had the seal of the spirit, who continued to convict and chasten me, which is why I could not stay away.

as John said, whoever walks away and becomes anti christ was never of us, if they were, they never would have left.

CAPITAL G, bro...
 

PS

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Lol

i walked away from god

i Had sexual relations with multiple woman, even though I was still technically married

i drank heavily

i stopped giving the gospel or even living like I was my fathers son, no one could tell I was a believer.

by definition, that is turning from god

i did not STOP believing, because I could not, because I still had the seal of the spirit, who continued to convict and chasten me, which is why I could not stay away.

as John said, whoever walks away and becomes anti christ was never of us, if they were, they never would have left.
You wandered astray like the prodigal son, but you never stopped believing and after a while you returned to the fold. Good for you and I know your sincerity. You may even be a stronger Christian than you were before. May God bless you. :)

I won't say much about the satanist I once met on the internet. He turned 180 degrees away from God and gave himself totally over to Satan.

It is people like Him, who had once been enlightened, had tasted the heavenly gift, shared in the Holy Spirit, tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the age to come, for whom it is impossible to restore again to repentance. They are crucifying again the Son of God and are holding him up to contempt.

The Bible would not say these things if it were not true. Hold fast to the Word, I know you do. :)
 
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eternally-gratefull

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You wandered astray like the prodigal son, but you never stopped believing and after a while you returned to the fold. Good for you and I know your sincerity. You may even be a stronger Christian than you were before. May God bless you. :)

I won't say much about the satanist I once met on the internet. He turned 180 degrees away from God and gave himself totally over to Satan.

It is people like Him, who had once been enlightened, had tasted the heavenly gift, shared in the Holy Spirit, tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the age to come, for whom it is impossible to restore again to repentance. They are crucifying again the Son of God and are holding him up to contempt.

The Bible would not say these things if it were not true. Hold fast to the Word, I know you do. :)
You continue to ignore 1 John 2.

thats on you man. We can not help you if you ignore 1 john

i came back because I was a true son and the chastening of god led me back

it is false believers who were “never of us” who never return.

because as John said, they were never of us
 

PS

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You continue to ignore 1 John 2.

thats on you man. We can not help you if you ignore 1 john

i came back because I was a true son and the chastening of god led me back

it is false believers who were “never of us” who never return.

because as John said, they were never of us
They were never Christians and the same applies to those who once were.
 

blue_ladybug

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It's just my opinion, but I don't believe that true Christians can turn into satanists or atheists..
 

PS

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It's just my opinion, but I don't believe that true Christians can turn into satanists or atheists..
So why does the Bible say people can?

2 Peter 2:20 If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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They were never Christians and the same applies to those who once were.
ALL were never christians

john said if they were, they NEVER would have left.

there is no such thing as if they were, if they were they never would have left

johns words.
 

Lightskin

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The thief on the cross obtaining salvation was a work in progress from the moment he first accepted Jesus as his Savior until that last moment he persevered unto the end. (y):)
Buy your reasoning it is best to die immediately upon obtaining salvation rather than sticking around and possibly losing it, which of course you cannot.
 

Melach

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So why does the Bible say people can?

2 Peter 2:20 If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning.
what does that verse say about anything becoming an atheist or satanist lolz. just that they are entangled in the corruption of the world again.
 

Melach

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Buy your reasoning it is best to die immediately upon obtaining salvation rather than sticking around and possibly losing it, which of course you cannot.
yes this is the conclusion i come to as well. for belief system like theirs the best system is to become saved and then get struck by lightning.