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God's called and chosen belong to Him and He will never forsake them...

ACTS 13:52.
And the disciples were filled with joy, and with The Holy Ghost.
 
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That is the way I understood the limited number of posts that I read. Where did I defend maintaining salvation? Where is it in that post?

It’s not there. You are Wrong, sir!

ALMOST ever post he makes.....go read the crap he said to @Rosemaryx and you defend him as a brother....wow man....

Discern said:
I have a higher view of him, brother. From reading his posts, he seems to genuinely trust and love the Lord. He believes that we are saved by Grace and kept by the power of God through faith. That is enough for me to call him “brother”
 
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I think you spend your life arguing here, for what purpose? None, no value, nadda,...……..
My bible tells me to defend the truth form those that would devalue it....your stance is clear....like Moses said....with ME or Korah....you obviously choose Korah!
 
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Here he goes, unless he is sinless he is a hypocrite
AMEN....like a lefty, he was triggered and gave me a bunch of red x's.......this from a GUY that denies the God of the O.T. worshipped by the Hebrews and then one that constantly opposes truth while peddling a dime store Catholic salvation
 
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Discern said:
I have a higher view of him, brother. From reading his posts, he seems to genuinely trust and love the Lord. He believes that we are saved by Grace and kept by the power of God through faith. That is enough for me to call him “brother”
Hey bro, he later recanted, after he was shown, instead of many as they refuse to admit they were wrong
 

Chris1975

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This entire thread had built in obsolescence. Totally too long. Nobody is going to scroll through the reams and reams of pages of argumentation. It has become totally stale. If you haven't settled on the topic by now, no amount of further argumentation will have any value. It is not edifying at all. The salt has lost its flavour. Its now just sad. I was on this two years ago and still we go around the merry-go-round.
 
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Discern said:
I have a higher view of him, brother. From reading his posts, he seems to genuinely trust and love the Lord. He believes that we are saved by Grace and kept by the power of God through faith. That is enough for me to call him “brother”


Call one that states we can lose salvation, that we can lose being justified and that Christ will quit mediating for us......says a LOT about one's true stance!
By your standard. John Wesley is in hell. I would say that says a lot about YOUR stance

I do not believe nosas. But I do not condemn people who disagree with me, especially when his position may change in five years

I used to believe as he did, and God corrected me are you going to say I was not saved until I understood security

You do not base salvation on grace. You base it on holding the right doctrine. Just like Jaydens

Sorry dude. You need to get a little grace.
 

Chris1975

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This entire thread had built in obsolescence. Totally too long. Nobody is going to scroll through the reams and reams of pages of argumentation. It has become totally stale. If you haven't settled on the topic by now, no amount of further argumentation will have any value. It is not edifying at all. The salt has lost its flavour. Its now just sad. I was on this two years ago and still we go around the merry-go-round.
And y'all know this is the truth.
 
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AMEN....like a lefty, he was triggered and gave me a bunch of red x's.......this from a GUY that denies the God of the O.T. worshipped by the Hebrews and then one that constantly opposes truth while peddling a dime store Catholic salvation
He is red x king

it’s to the point it is laughable
 

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This entire thread had built in obsolescence. Totally too long. Nobody is going to scroll through the reams and reams of pages of argumentation. It has become totally stale. If you haven't settled on the topic by now, no amount of further argumentation will have any value. It is not edifying at all. The salt has lost its flavour. Its now just sad. I was on this two years ago and still we go around the merry-go-round.
It is worse than sad, unfortunately. :(
 

Chris1975

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The topic will never be settled and is one of the most important topics in all of this world

if you get this topic wrong it has eternal consequences
that’s why it will never die
Jesus didn't hang around and argue His points to death. He left them with the truth and moved to the next city.
 
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By your standard. John Wesley is in hell. I would say that says a lot about YOUR stance

I do not believe nosas. But I do not condemn people who disagree with me, especially when his position may change in five years

I used to believe as he did, and God corrected me are you going to say I was not saved until I understood security

You do not base salvation on grace. You base it on holding the right doctrine. Just like Jaydens

Sorry dude. You need to get a little grace.
None of this is factual.....more embellishments on your part pal....My standard....NOT quite and could care less what John Wesley believed and or peddled....I dogma dogma PAL and false gospels which HAVE no power to save genius....the power is in the MESSAGE not the messenger....but maybe you do not comprehend that truth and if you think I am anywhere near the fool that was banned you have no clue......here TRY this scripture and wrap your head around the truth...

By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.

And on top of that...it is evident that have not read anything I have written.....NOTHING I have said can even be compared to that idiot Jayden....
 
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By your standard. John Wesley is in hell. I would say that says a lot about YOUR stance

I do not believe nosas. But I do not condemn people who disagree with me, especially when his position may change in five years

I used to believe as he did, and God corrected me are you going to say I was not saved until I understood security

You do not base salvation on grace. You base it on holding the right doctrine. Just like Jaydens

Sorry dude. You need to get a little grace.
My bible tells me to defend the truth form those that would devalue it....your stance is clear....like Moses said....with ME or Korah....you obviously choose Korah!
that’s why he calls himself Dcontroversal. Who would give himself a name like that?
 
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None of this is factual.....more embellishments on your part pal....My standard....NOT quite and could care less what John Wesley believed and or peddled....I dogma dogma PAL and false gospels which HAVE no power to save genius....the power is in the MESSAGE not the messenger....but maybe you do not comprehend that truth and if you think I am anywhere near the fool that was banned you have no clue......here TRY this scripture and wrap your head around the truth...

By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.

And on top of that...it is evident that have not read anything I have written.....NOTHING I have said can even be compared to that idiot Jayden....
John Wesley was not osas. Do you hold that he is in hell? Yes or no?