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This is also a muslim faith to pray to the sunrise.. To some christians this would be a sun God lol
I think they face east because that is where Mecca is in Saudi Arabia....their god is the moon and star (a study will reveal the same false god that Abraham's father worshipped in Mesopotamia) The Moon god sin.......
 
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The holy spirit would not convict us if it is not with us i feel more convicted now for saying this but convicted in a loving sence..

That the holy spirits conviction is not just about sinning... its also about perfection... meaning a warm loving heart that seeks to see Good in people AND NOT THERE PAST SINS ETC..
 
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I think our emotions tell us to pray and seek what God wants us to know.

When I sin, I stop hearing the peacful music that is normally in my heart...silence always means trouble for me.

Like in nature and all the birds stop singing.
i can hear the birds in the background there beautiful...:)
 

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The Enemy attacks all new believers by telling them lies like God doesn't really love them and they are unworthy because they aren't holy enough.

It's not until we become mature and rooted in Christ that we really find peace and trust in the fact that God really does love us.
I wasn't a new beleiver when this started.

It started when I suffered a severe knee injury wrecked my potential professional football career.

For fun side of football I played on a Sunday morning and went to church in the evening.

I was laying in a hospital bed and the surgeon told me that my knee wasn't strong enough for this career.
I was gutted.

About an hour after that a Christian came to visit me. I told them what the surgeon said.

Thier response was "God did this to you because you play football on a Sunday morning"

That was part of the process of my downward spiral. Other things contributed to it as well>

I backslid (never lost my faith in Jesus, I was just a shattered person full of guilt) and of course backslidden Christians don't behave like they should do, yet can still hate what they do and call out for help. Like I did every night for 15 years.

Woke up every day at the same time 2:AM in the morning with guilt and fear. Got to the stage where I asked God kill me. Then I would no where I was going. Heaven or hell.

As shocking as that sounds my comfort was that God would look after my wife and 4 kids but that was my comfort.

Condemnation is a bitter pill, and if swallowed it wrecks a person.

There is love in condemnation, it's a breeding ground for fear.

I would encourage us all to not condemn a fellow believer. Just like I felt sat in that hospital bed with the Christian who visited me. His visit to me wasn't with compassion but with condemnation and I believed that lie.

There is no condemnation for those in Christ Jesus.

Thats the truth and anything different is a lie.
 
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I think they face east because that is where Mecca is in Saudi Arabia....their god is the moon and star (a study will reveal the same false god that Abraham's father worshipped in Mesopotamia) The Moon god sin.......
Lol im sure God would chuckle tho at this one ?
 
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So I guess then the brother who continues to sin the same sin can still be saved ?

The holy spirit will continue to convict are attitude and personality too which could mean some saved people will sin all there lifes coz there still a sinner saved from grace ?
Bingo!!!!! Remember God promises to complete the work He started, but how long that can take is not defined.
 
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I think they face east because that is where Mecca is in Saudi Arabia....their god is the moon and star (a study will reveal the same false god that Abraham's father worshipped in Mesopotamia) The Moon god sin.......
Irony is we have a Sun day and a Moon day in our weekly calanders.
 
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The holy spirit would not convict us if it is not with us i feel more convicted now for saying this but convicted in a loving sence..

That the holy spirits conviction is not just about sinning... its also about perfection... meaning a warm loving heart that seeks to see Good in people AND NOT THERE PAST SINS ETC..
YES!!
A warm loving heart. That is our Father, he is a good good Father.
 
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News alert the sun God is setting pray to God to protect you tonight :)
 
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Bingo!!!!! Remember God promises to complete the work He started, but how long that can take is not defined.
I knda like this and i Get it but the defined part of how long ?... maybe its the case that some stuborness will stay with us for ever and we will go to heaven a muel ?
 
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This is also a muslim faith to pray to the sunrise.. To some christians this would be a sun God lol
Ah I said to thank God for the sun...not pray to the sun. That would be making the sun an idol.

People make idols of many blessings God gave us and we must guard our hearts from it.
 
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Irony is we have a Sun day and a Moon day in our weekly calanders.
YEP.....Gregorian calendar and almost every aspect of life touched by paganism......good thing we are in the world, but not of the world......
 
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Ah I said to thank God for the sun...not pray to the sun. That would be making the sun an idol.

People make idols of many blessings God gave us and we must guard our hearts from it.
I know you did i was teasing lol
 
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I knda like this and i Get it but the defined part of how long ?... maybe its the case that some stuborness will stay with us for ever and we will go to heaven a muel ?
Who knows, it's quite possible. Heehawww !!!! But hey our King rode a donkey.
 
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YEP.....Gregorian calendar and almost every aspect of life touched by paganism......good thing we are in the world, but not of the world......
Amen! I was just talking to a good friend about that today. Praise God that we are no longer in the quagmire.
 
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Ah I said to thank God for the sun...not pray to the sun. That would be making the sun an idol.

People make idols of many blessings God gave us and we must guard our hearts from it.
Yep, money and possessions are the big 2, and lots of things are fighting for 3rd place.
 
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Ah I said to thank God for the sun...not pray to the sun. That would be making the sun an idol.

People make idols of many blessings God gave us and we must guard our hearts from it.
Exactly why John in the midst of speaking numerous times about love states...Little children keep yourselves for idols......every where we look....idols.....
 

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Irony is we have a Sun day and a Moon day in our weekly calanders.
Don't forget Saturn's day or the day by Jove (Jupiter; Thursday, Thor). Also Tuesday (Norse god Tyr, associated with Mars), Woden's day (Mercury/Odin), and Friday (Freya, wife of Odin, equated with Venus).