Not By Works
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Top Ten Ways You Know You're In A Bad Church 
10. The church bus has gun racks.
9. The church staff consists of Senior Pastor, Associate Pastor and Socio-pastor.
8. The Bible they use is the "Dr. Seuss Version."
7. There is an ATM in the lobby.
6. The choir wears leather robes.
5. Worship services are B.Y.O.S. -- "Bring Your Own Snake."
4. Their is no cover charge, but communion is a two-drink minimum.
3. They have karaoke Worship Time.
2. The ushers ask, "Smoking or Non-smoking?"
1. The only song the organist knows is "In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida."
10. The church bus has gun racks.
9. The church staff consists of Senior Pastor, Associate Pastor and Socio-pastor.
8. The Bible they use is the "Dr. Seuss Version."
7. There is an ATM in the lobby.
6. The choir wears leather robes.
5. Worship services are B.Y.O.S. -- "Bring Your Own Snake."
4. Their is no cover charge, but communion is a two-drink minimum.
3. They have karaoke Worship Time.
2. The ushers ask, "Smoking or Non-smoking?"
1. The only song the organist knows is "In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida."
You know....a lost man hears the message of Jesus, believes it, acknowledges it in faith and IS SAVED....immediately justified as the blood, faith and work of Christ is applied by said faith, is sealed with the holy spirit of promise and sanctified (positionally) in JESUS eternally.....it is a once for all act that results in a spiritual birth of an incorruptible seed. God is clear....whatsoever he does it is EVERLASTING<---NOTHING ADDED NOR TAKEN AWAY FROM IT...it is a COMPLETE, ETERNAL ACTION by GOD.....
WORKS cannot be added to COMPLETE what has already BEEN GIVEN...see above and NOTHING ADDED......
GALATIANS chapters 1 and 3 are clear....TO ADD works to "facilitate" and or "CAP OFF" salvation = a false gospel with NO POWER to SAVE....
JESUS was clear.....MANY "Plenteous in number in GREEK" will come before JESUS claiming the right to enter his KINGDOM
They obviously claim to KNOW HIM..BELIEVE IN HIM
YET they BOAST of the works DONE in HIS NAME........
THIS accurately describes those who add works to faith for salvation and is exactly what the "workers for" do and claim....
They say they KNOW JESUS by faith
THEY say they do many wonderful works in his name
THEY say that is the way to God's Kingdom
A false gospel of a different kind with no power to save........a DIFFERENT door than JESUS gave....
This is the will of the FATHER.....BELIEVE on JESUS....the one whom he sent!
It pleased GOD by the foolishness of preaching to SAVE them that BELIEVE<-----NO RELLIGIOUS WORKS WHATSOEVER added.......
WORKS cannot be added to COMPLETE what has already BEEN GIVEN...see above and NOTHING ADDED......
GALATIANS chapters 1 and 3 are clear....TO ADD works to "facilitate" and or "CAP OFF" salvation = a false gospel with NO POWER to SAVE....
JESUS was clear.....MANY "Plenteous in number in GREEK" will come before JESUS claiming the right to enter his KINGDOM
They obviously claim to KNOW HIM..BELIEVE IN HIM
YET they BOAST of the works DONE in HIS NAME........
THIS accurately describes those who add works to faith for salvation and is exactly what the "workers for" do and claim....
They say they KNOW JESUS by faith
THEY say they do many wonderful works in his name
THEY say that is the way to God's Kingdom
A false gospel of a different kind with no power to save........a DIFFERENT door than JESUS gave....
This is the will of the FATHER.....BELIEVE on JESUS....the one whom he sent!
It pleased GOD by the foolishness of preaching to SAVE them that BELIEVE<-----NO RELLIGIOUS WORKS WHATSOEVER added.......
Lol I know this isn't quite what you mean; but, this reminds me of a childhood friend, whose family are still my neighbors. Well my friend's mom had put anti-freeze in the refrigerator in an unmarked jug for whatever reason before she went to work, I forget exactly why. Thinking it was Kool-Aid him and his two brothers drank most of it. When their mom came home later and wondered why the anti-freeze was almost gone then they realized what it was and she flipped out lol. Lol the fire department and EMS showed up at their house in a huge big scene. But praise God, they were blessed that they didn't die, and didn't even have to get their stomachs pumped. When the paramedics took samples of their blood they found they were normal. The paramedics were astounded really and said they should have definitely been dead or at least really messed up, but it did not affect them at all.
Mindful I ain't advocating for anyone to tempt fate here by gulping down chemicals, but this comment just reminded me of that story. Really it was kinda funny that the biggest harm to them was their mom's freak out and of course having to have a blood test, and the big embarrassment from the big scene. They were in middle school too, the youngest in elementary school, so it's not like they had the natural resiliency of adults. Never really thought much of it outside of it being a funny story, but I think in hindsight I can definitely see how the only reasonable explanation is God's gracious protection.
Mindful I ain't advocating for anyone to tempt fate here by gulping down chemicals, but this comment just reminded me of that story. Really it was kinda funny that the biggest harm to them was their mom's freak out and of course having to have a blood test, and the big embarrassment from the big scene. They were in middle school too, the youngest in elementary school, so it's not like they had the natural resiliency of adults. Never really thought much of it outside of it being a funny story, but I think in hindsight I can definitely see how the only reasonable explanation is God's gracious protection.
Post I made on another thread...ETERNAL SECURITY is BIBLICAL
AMEN to that....JESUS<---I WILL NEVER leave you or FORSAKE YOU
Paul<---NOTHING can separate us from the LOVE of God
Hebrews<--HOPE...a CONFIDENT expectation of SOMETHING GUARANTEED
JOHN<---BORN of INCORRUPTABLE SEED
GOD<--WHATSOEVER GOD DOES IT IS EVERLASTING
JESUS<---I GIVE UNTO THEM ETERNAL LIFE and NO MAN can PLUCK them out of MY HAND
JESUS<--ALL that the FATHER gives me I WILL LOSE NOTHING, BUT WILL raise it up the last day
The bible teaches eternal security...end of story!
AMEN to that....JESUS<---I WILL NEVER leave you or FORSAKE YOU
Paul<---NOTHING can separate us from the LOVE of God
Hebrews<--HOPE...a CONFIDENT expectation of SOMETHING GUARANTEED
JOHN<---BORN of INCORRUPTABLE SEED
GOD<--WHATSOEVER GOD DOES IT IS EVERLASTING
JESUS<---I GIVE UNTO THEM ETERNAL LIFE and NO MAN can PLUCK them out of MY HAND
JESUS<--ALL that the FATHER gives me I WILL LOSE NOTHING, BUT WILL raise it up the last day
The bible teaches eternal security...end of story!
Newer ones have a bitter additive to keep dogs and cats away....just googled it...about 2 to 8 ounces must be ingested to be lethal....depending on weight....also dilution also plays a part....anyway.....man just think if you came home and all three were found dead......wonder why you would store it in a jar in the fridge.....no logical reason for sure.....
Well I don't think it was bitter. They drank a lot of it and thought it was Kool Aid after all. If I remember correctly I think they said it tasted sweet.
I forget the exact reason why his mom put it in the fridge.
I haven't talked to any of them for quite a while. My close friend I'll call him C, he was probably my best friend growing up. I was good friends with his brothers too, the four of us had all sorts of misadventures. His older brother became a teacher and got married he doesn't live far from here. His younger brother I think is still around town, but he kinda into the whole bar scene and what not. C, whom was my age and I haven't talked for years. Idk if I'd call it a falling out, cause we never like fought, but he turned gay the first year he went off to college, and after he came out to me I reacted in a way he didn't like, not angrily, just sad I guess, it was like a cold stone dropped into my stomach when he told me, and he stopped talking to me after that. He got gay married and moved to Michigan and I guess doesn't talk to his parents much either. I see his parents walking now and then and will say hi. I always liked them a lot, they were very churchy which is way different than my parents, they were kind of a second set of parents to me. Next time I run into them I will have to ask them about the anti-freeze story.
I forget the exact reason why his mom put it in the fridge.
I haven't talked to any of them for quite a while. My close friend I'll call him C, he was probably my best friend growing up. I was good friends with his brothers too, the four of us had all sorts of misadventures. His older brother became a teacher and got married he doesn't live far from here. His younger brother I think is still around town, but he kinda into the whole bar scene and what not. C, whom was my age and I haven't talked for years. Idk if I'd call it a falling out, cause we never like fought, but he turned gay the first year he went off to college, and after he came out to me I reacted in a way he didn't like, not angrily, just sad I guess, it was like a cold stone dropped into my stomach when he told me, and he stopped talking to me after that. He got gay married and moved to Michigan and I guess doesn't talk to his parents much either. I see his parents walking now and then and will say hi. I always liked them a lot, they were very churchy which is way different than my parents, they were kind of a second set of parents to me. Next time I run into them I will have to ask them about the anti-freeze story.