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eternally-gratefull

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EG - are you ok because you are becoming more illogical and dismissive but without
any real foundation. In the past you actually made some sense.

I know why you are targetting me, because you do not really have any answers left.
Ironic for someone who claims to know the Lord so well.

I wish no harm for you, but I can only stand on Gods word, and its clear declaration
we are to walk as Jesus walked in love of one another through the power of the cross.


I have never met anyon so desperate to protect his or herself at all costs,

just like your other slanderous comments, I have told you time and time again, I do not target you, 90 % of the time I even say anything to you is to call you out for liking about what others spbelieve.

but hey, for some reason I have made such an impact on you you feel you have to attack me to make yourself feel good, so maybe I have done some good, and God can some day use that,

you have my prayers,
 

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I think it's offensive & malicious to make claims of what I believe..... that's judging.

I believe we can lose our salvation because it's true, in spite of what hundreds of easy believists say.
It can only be true if your salvation depends on something or someone other than Jesus Christ and the eternal blood covenant.

Scripture speaks of adoption and redemption in eternal terms.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

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It can only be true if your salvation depends on something or someone other than Jesus Christ and the eternal blood covenant.

Scripture speaks of adoption and redemption in eternal terms.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
Amen! Romans 8:30 - Moreover whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified. *ALL of them.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Amen! Romans 8:30 - Moreover whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified. *ALL of them.

Sadly to some, all does not mean all, eternal does not mean eternal, never does not mean never. You have to wonder why God use these terms if he did not mean it, was it an error on the interpreter part or what?

 

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Best part of waking up...or so I've heard. :)
Ooh I have to wake up with a nice cup of English Tea, followed by weetabix or cornflakes.

Although my favourite is a cup of tea with poached eggs
 
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or maybe we should stop being like you and a follower of men, And start to study to show ourselves approved, a workman who needs not to be ashamed, or taught.

A commentary is a useful tool, But we should never think any commentator has everything right

As you were asked, How can you use a passage to say one can lose salvation, when the passage strickly says, if you lose it, you can not get it back.
Funny thing is...they NEVER LOSE IT....but those who believe saved by grace dia faith lose it when we pass gas.....they are such hypocrites.....deceived and spreading their deception like cancer.....
 

BillG

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I think it's offensive & malicious to make claims of what I believe..... that's judging.

I believe we can lose our salvation because it's true, in spite of what hundreds of easy believists say.
I think You have just fallen foul of yourself.
You gonna fall in your sword?

Its offensive to you and malicious that some make claims of what you believe and it's judging.

Now lets look at what you also say.

"In spite of what hundreds of easy believists say"

You are judging people because of what others in Christ believe.

But me thinks you don't actually believe the easy believists are not in Christ.

Just as malicious and offensive and judgmental.

I don't know you but I have read some of your posts and I won't comment on them.

All I ask is for you to is to say what you think easy believism is to you.
Set aside OSAS because you obviously think easy believism or should we greasy grace leads to this.
So humour me if you don't mind, what leads to being saved to not saved.
 
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I have never met anyon so desperate to protect his or herself at all costs,

just like your other slanderous comments, I have told you time and time again, I do not target you, 90 % of the time I even say anything to you is to call you out for liking about what others spbelieve.

but hey, for some reason I have made such an impact on you you feel you have to attack me to make yourself feel good, so maybe I have done some good, and God can some day use that,

you have my prayers,
Eg - :cool: Calling someone a liar is a very strong accusation. You obviously do it so many times
is does not phase you. And calling a christian brother a liar is equivalent to saying they do not
know Jesus. So friend, I challenge you before the Lord, if you have something against me, you
have to declare it or be quiet. And if you have nothing, you are sinning yourself.

There are always spiritual consequences to these words. If you want to walk as a hypocrite and
an apostate that is fine by me, but claiming to speak for the Lord and use His word as if you are
capable of this is another thing.

The trouble with sinning against someone, is if you do not resolve it you are sinning against the
Lord and denying the very salvation you claim to hold so dear.

So please do not try and play the innocent, God is not mocked. How will you stand on the day
of judgement, when clear scripture you neither answer nor take to heart but attack and slander
His faithful people. Do you have a heart or any reality, or is it just self serving excuses?

This is how Paul describes it

My conscience is clear, but that does not make me innocent. It is the Lord who judges me. 5 Therefore judge nothing before the appointed time; wait until the Lord comes. He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of the heart. At that time each will receive their praise from God.
1 Cor 4:4-5
 
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This person should know better, His lies are always easily shown..

What is said is that more people do not start to call him out on his sinful ways.. It may start to get into his head that no one sees past his lies, and may help him to start seeing his lies himself.
This discussion is pointless, EG. What I was commenting on was

Your ancestors ate manna and died, but whoever feeds on this bread will live forever.
John 6:59

Now guys and girls, when did feeding on something be a one off event, but rather it is
all about abiding.

So where am I lying? Simply I am not lying but EG wants to create this impression because
he is addicted to slandering me, trying to trap and general be abusive.

So how is me lying easily shown when I have not lied? Now if one is delusional or stupid,
or so self possessed you try and create this argument.
The above is an example of provocative, accusing then saying I do not attack you etc.
Why bother with such obvious deception? Why try and take lots of different approaches
as if it is not obvious the intention is just to find a weakness?

I wonder what drives a heart so much to pursue this. lol.
It reminds me of the continual pursuit the enemies of Christ sought to find a way through,
as if you can stand against the living God. It must have frustrated them so, because all
the previous enemies they managed to strike down and defeat. And in the end they crucified
Christ, but still He came back with greater depth and power to bring the Kingdom of heaven
to earth, and still this is true todays as it always has been.

Christ is the victory and the cross is His way, through suffering He bring us comfort so we can
share His comfort to those who are likewise suffering in the world of trouble and defeat.

Praise the Lord in the Highest and peace to men on earth. For until the day of judgement arrives
there is still hope to find redemption of ones soul, Amen.
 
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Ooh I have to wake up with a nice cup of English Tea, followed by weetabix or cornflakes.

Although my favourite is a cup of tea with poached eggs
Let me tell you....I love Weet-Bix.....eat it every time I am in Australia.....the best.....and Arnott's Biscuits ....good stuff....
 

BillG

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But me thinks you don't actually believe the easy believists are not in Christ.
Sorry just to clarify

Just incase its misread.

me thinks you don't actually believe the easy believists are in Christ.
 

BillG

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Let me tell you....I love Weet-Bix.....eat it every time I am in Australia.....the best.....and Arnott's Biscuits ....good stuff....
Nevee heard is Arnottt's buscuits.

Are they the same?

how does you eat them?
 

BillG

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Ooh no. Us Brits dip in tea (well I do anyway)

A cup of cha and a dippy buscuit.

Custard creams and chocolate bourbons
Although I must say I would dunk Arnott's buscuits in my tea
 
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Although I must say I would dunk Arnott's buscuits in my tea
Tea too, but in afternoon....coffee in the morning HAHAH.....I find myself loving the Aussie way......love the country, the people, the food, the culture and consider it my second home/country....have spent like 5 months in AU.....love it....