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eternally-gratefull

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Be nice.
You don't know what I've experienced. We only met a few weeks ago and you don't even know me.
I know what your saying I know what your doing here.

you ignored my post, focused on the fact I said sex, tried to say I need to look at a first few verses, and declaired me in error.

without even taking them not account what. Said.

In fact it could be said you do not know us either, yet you claim you know what we believe
 
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eternally-gratefull

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I think you don't understand what Jesus is for and I'm tired of explaining it.

No no I am afraid you have it backwards,

you do do not know what Jesus is f R, and I am not sick to f explaining it, I love explaining it because it does s the power of salvation for all who believe
 
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I know what your saying I know what your doing here.

you ignored my post, focused on the fact I said sex, tried to say I need to look at a first few verses, and declaired me in error.

without even taking them not account what. Said.

In fact it could be said you do not know us either, yet you claim you know what we believe
You say that all that's necessary is to BELIEVE.
Then I ask you to explain BELIEVE and you don't because it wouldn't suit you.
Then you say that it's not necessary to follow commands and that it's only done because you love God, not because you have to.


Do I have that right?
 
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No no I am afraid you have it backwards,

you do do not know what Jesus is f R, and I am not sick to f explaining it, I love explaining it because it does s the power of salvation for all who believe
I guess I don't believe.

I must leave now.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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I'm going to hell.
AGAIN.

And to think I joined this forum to be uplifted...
lol. There you go again, do nthat t read the context, but misread one sentence.

i did not even say you were going to hell

now your being dishonest.
 
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You say that all that's necessary is to BELIEVE.
Then I ask you to explain BELIEVE and you don't because it wouldn't suit you.
Then you say that it's not necessary to follow commands and that it's only done because you love God, not because you have to.


Do I have that right?
what? I explained it many times, there you go with dishonesty again. In fact the explained to t a few posts again whe. I said without faith it s impossible to please God,

that by faith we are obedient, because we trust god

mere believe will not save you, saving faith will. Saving faith works..because it has power

and you can say it is necessary all you want, but until you show me one man or woman apart from Christ you obeyed the law the way god requires us, then all your doing is condemning everyone.. you can not obey the law the way God requires. Period..




 
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Fran, I mean no disrespect, nor am I trying to elevate myself above you in any way. I believe your heart is seeking more.

You are still thinking like the natural man here in this post.

If you can think of laws as controlling. If you are good and pure...why would you need someone telling you how to be?
Here's what I think... (I missed this)

to the pure
all things are pure.

I don't follow rules.
I follow Love.

When I got married we didn't make out a list of rules we were going to follow.
We just kind of knew how to keep each other happy.

HOWEVER, there still were rules, right?
Or did we each just do whatever we wanted to?

The Natural Law. God given.
 

stonesoffire

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For the natural man.

For the Spiritual man, we are led by the Voice...to eventually being One with Him.

The desire of your new heart.
 

BillG

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I'm going to hell.
AGAIN.

And to think I joined this forum to be uplifted...
You can't go to hell again silly:rolleyes:

No one on here has the right to condemn anyone to hell. That's judging and there is only one ultimate judge and its King Jesus.

We will all stand before him one day and it's him and only him who will say "well done good and faithful servant"

It is also Jesus who will test our works, some of it will basically be crap and some of it will be precious.

But we are told what? I ask this for everone here.
 
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what? I explained it many times, there you go with dishonesty again. In fact the explained to t a few posts again whe. I said without faith it s impossible to please God,

that by faith we are obedient, because we trust god

mere believe will not save you, saving faith will. Saving faith works..because it has power

and you can say it is necessary all you want, but until you show me one man or woman apart from Christ you obeyed the law the way god requires us, then all your doing is condemning everyone.. you can not obey the law the way God requires. Period..




Now I'm dishonest.
I hate being called names.
Especially of characteristics which do not explain me.
 
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You can't go to hell again silly:rolleyes:

No one on here has the right to condemn anyone to hell. That's judging and there is only one ultimate judge and its King Jesus.

We will all stand before him one day and it's him and only him who will say "well done good and faithful servant"

It is also Jesus who will test our works, some of it will basically be crap and some of it will be precious.

But we are told what? I ask this for everone here.
Yes Bill. But I've been told so many times. This is sooooo judegmental.
We're supposed to love each other.
By this shall all men know that you are my disciples, that you love one another.
IF ONLY WE COULD SHOW SOME LOVE.

And I've been told I'm not walking with Jesus
And I've been told I don't understand about salvation
and so much more stuff... I don't want to think about it.

I'm no longer contributing anything here and am only getting slammed.
So I might as well leave.

I might be back in a few days. We'll see.
 

stonesoffire

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We are betrothed to the Bridegroom.

Spots and wrinkles...that which darkens the light that is within. Shadows of whatever is tripping us up.
 

stonesoffire

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Keep your eyes looking up Fran...people will fail you. Even as you yourself will fail. Forgive all and self.
 
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The Word is the final Word not the word of the church fathers...
Man's theology and traditions that do not align with the Scriptures are never to be held above the Word of God,.......NEVER!!!
I take them over YOURS.

You believe you know more than they did?
You think they weren't using letters?
You knew some of the Apostles in first person like they did?

Why say such silly things?

Matthew 4:4

But he answered,It is written,Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes from the mouth of God.’”

2 Timothy 3:16-17
All Scripture is breathed out by God
and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, 17that the man of God[SUP]b[/SUP] may be complete, equipped for every good work.

Psalm 119:130
The entrance of thy words giveth light; it giveth understanding unto the simple.

If traditions and man's theology, handed down to the church after the Apostolic Age, do not align with the Scriptures,.......
they are to be dismissed as nonsense.

Acts 20:27

for I did not shrink from declaring to you the whole counsel of God.

2 Timothy 4:1-5
I charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, and by his appearing and his kingdom: 2preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with complete patience and teaching. 3For the time is coming when people will not endure sound[SUP]a[/SUP] teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, 4and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths. 5As for you, always be sober-minded, endure suffering, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry.

Titus 1:5-9

This is why I left you in Crete, so that you might put what remained into order, and appoint elders in every town as I directed you— 6if anyone is above reproach, the husband of one wife,[SUP]d[/SUP] and his children are believers[SUP]e[/SUP] and not open to the charge of debauchery or insubordination. 7For an overseer,[SUP]f[/SUP] as God’s steward, must be above reproach. He must not be arrogant or quick-tempered or a drunkard or violent or greedy for gain, 8but hospitable, a lover of good, self-controlled, upright, holy, and disciplined. 9He must hold firm to the trustworthy word as taught, so that he may be able to give instruction in sound[SUP]g[/SUP] doctrine and also to rebuke those who contradict it.
 
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lol. There you go again, do nthat t read the context, but misread one sentence.

i did not even say you were going to hell

now your being dishonest.
Hey EG,

Here's your post about me going to hell. Post no. 14174


if it is necessary we are all doomed, because no one can keep it according to Gods standard.

james said if you break the lease, your guilty of all, are you perfect? If no (and you have said no many times) Then you failed to live up to Gods standard, so how can it save you, maintain your salvation or cause you to keep it if you can. Not keep it as required?

are you going to answer, or sit there and mock?

Your hate for hypergrace and Calvinism is so deep your willing to possibly go to hell because of it. That is sad!


You DO MENTION HELL a lot, BTW. I never think of it.
BTW, I don't sit here and mock.
You have really bad opinions of me.

I'm here to discuss, not to mock.
Maybe YOU are here to mock and think Others do the same?
 
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