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jackrosie

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Magenta said:
How contradictory can one person be?
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That does not mean he knew what choice was..those are my words..not his..he disobeyed the command

Show me where he had a choice.!?

You can’t because you would have done it by now...not scriptural.
 
Magenta

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jackrosie said:
That does not mean he knew what choice was..those are my words..not his..he disobeyed the command

Show me where he had a choice.!?

You can’t because you would have done it by now...not scriptural.
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You just said yourself, Adam chose. If he did not have a choice, he would not have been able to choose.

Anyone capable of thinking things through would see this. Yet somehow it eludes you.
 
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jackrosie said:
The point is scripture...

God gave them a command he never gave them a choice.....show me scripture where God said to Adam and Eve...you choose....
He commanded he never said choose.
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So now the point is scripture.... you are funny.
 
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Magenta said:
You just said yourself, Adam chose. If he did not have a choice, he would not have been able to choose.
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I said those are my words....show me in the bible where God told Adam he had a choice?

We are talking choice..where does it say in the bible that Adam had a choice?
 
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EleventhHour said:
So now the point is scripture.... you are funny.
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No the point is Choice..show me the scripture where God said to Adam you have a choice....if you show me I will stop.

All you do is explain it in your own words nothing scriptural so they don’t count.
 
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jackrosie said:
No the point is Choice..show me the scripture where God said to Adam you have a choice....if you show me I will stop.

All you do is explain it in your own words nothing scriptural so they don’t count.
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I already agreed God did not. :)

My point is though that was not ever under discussion, free will is the topic.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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jackrosie said:
Did Adam know what sin was?....I see it so different from you and others bro....Adam was given a command God Never gave him a choice.he chose to go against the command
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He does not have to know what sin is.

He knew he had a choice, Obey and live disobey and die

if you deny this, then I do not know what to say to you

Anyway bro..I have no more to say on this....leave you to it.....
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Leave me to it?

what kind of answer is this?
 
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jackrosie said:
I said those are my words....show me in the bible where God told Adam he had a choice?

We are talking choice..where does it say in the bible that Adam had a choice?
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Wait, you just accused me of completely changing the subject to show how people make choices against commandments to the contrary, and now you agree we are discussing choice. Talking with you any further will be fruitless, since you are so determined you are right and others are wrong, no matter what, freely throwing in your opinion while telling others to keep theirs to them self. Bye for now.
 
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jackrosie said:
That does not mean he knew what choice was..those are my words..not his..he disobeyed the command

Show me where he had a choice.!?

You can’t because you would have done it by now...not scriptural.
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we have done it numerous times :confused:
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
He does not have to know what sin is.

He knew he had a choice, Obey and live disobey and die

if you deny this, then I do not know what to say to you


Leave me to it?

what kind of answer is this?
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Once again show me in scripture that he knew he had a choice?

How would he have known he had a choice...as God Never said that to him?
 
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jackrosie said:
I said those are my words....show me in the bible where God told Adam he had a choice?

We are talking choice..where does it say in the bible that Adam had a choice?
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did adam chose to disobey

or was he forced to disobey because he had no choice
 
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jackrosie said:
No it wasn’t a member brought choice into the discussion...I then questioned..
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I really think you just want to be argumentative now.

I agree God did NOT say to them "you have a choice" no one is supporting this idea... we know it is not in scripture.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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jackrosie said:
Once again show me in scripture that he knew he had a choice?

How would he have known he had a choice...as God Never said that to him?
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once againm as a child when your father gave you a command

do you realise you had a choice

obey and all would be well

disobey and suffer the consequences?

God told adam, In the day you eat of this tree you will die

Adam knew that when he took and sinned.. He did not do it in ignorance
 
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Magenta said:
Wait, you just accused me of completely changing the subject to show how people make choices against commandments to the contrary, and now you agree we are discussing choice. Talking with you any further will be fruitless, since you are so determined you are right and others are wrong, no matter what, freely throwing in your opinion while telling others to keep theirs to them self. Bye for now.
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Once again you twist my posts.

I am trying to understand.....at the moment I understand nothing from you only confusion and twisting of what I post.

It’s like you have a real problem with me not agreeing with you...sorry I only agree with scripture.
 
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