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EleventhHour

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I was just looking at @dcontroversal first post and all those people who liked and didn't like it.

There was a guy with the name ilovethepope that put a red x on it....:ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:
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He was a troll.... came around on occasion.
Usually had the word "Heretics" in his name... but thankfully he has not been around for a long time.
 
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EleventhHour said:
Your mocking tone tells me not to engage.

I understand this verse in context very well..... and it is tragic that you keep trying to find verses that prove salvation is not secure in the this hyper-dispensationalism of yours.

If you think you have to "endure to the end" to be spiritually saved, it is your choice to continue in that false teaching, we have tried to show you otherwise.
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I don't engage in anyone trying to twist my words and certainly not anyone who uses scripture as an "agenda."
 
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EleventhHour

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I don't engage in anyone trying to twist my words and certainly not anyone who uses scripture as an "agenda."
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I have been debating whether to respond or not..... but I agree.

Far too long has we have presented THE truth,

Nothing I can add beyond what has already been stated.

Certainly all scripture must be understood and interpreted within salvation is secure in Christ.

I doubt that @Guojing can lay down his losable salvation dogma.
 
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Guojing said:
Oh, so if I accept Christ this year 2020, but say next year 2021, I find myself hating a brother whom I just met in 2021, was I really saved in 2020, according to your view?
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Your incessant "what if" scenarios reek of a complete lack of trust, faith and or biblical understanding!

You are one of the top "skewers" of the word of God on this site that constantly SEEKS to twist the word to your salvation losing erroneous views.......

Look to Jesus man.....actually put your trust in him....HE KEEPS his word and KEEPS US BY HIS POWER through the FAITH HE INITIATES, FINISHES AND COMPLETES IN US!
 
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Grandpa said:
I was just looking at @dcontroversal first post and all those people who liked and didn't like it.

There was a guy with the name ilovethepope that put a red x on it....:ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:
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The numbers are actually WAY higher on the likes.....I had like 60 or 70 likes when the site changed over to this new platform and lost all of the likes.....there would probably be like 130 or 140 had that not happened.
 
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EleventhHour said:
I have been debating whether to respond or not..... but I agree.

Far too long has we have presented THE truth,

Nothing I can add beyond what has already been stated.

Certainly all scripture must be understood and interpreted within salvation is secure in Christ.

I doubt that @Guojing can lay down his losable salvation dogma.
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It is rather tragic at the end of the day...the way religionists constantly seek to undermine Jesus, his word, his power, his promises to peddle a weak, inept god (with a small g) that can save a man at his WORST, yet, cannot KEEP him saved even though he has been BORN AGAIN FROM ABOVE BY INCORRUPTIBLE SEED through an irrevocable FREE GIFT OF ETERNAL LIFE while having been JUSTIFIED AND SANCTIFIED POSITIONALLY IN CHRIST ETERNALLY.....

I mean....even a 5 year old can grasp these truths!
 
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EleventhHour

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I don't engage in anyone trying to twist my words and certainly not anyone who uses scripture as an "agenda."
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So true using scripture as an agenda.... good point I need to remember that when discussing Calvinism.
 
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Guojing

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EleventhHour said:
I have been debating whether to respond or not..... but I agree.

Far too long has we have presented THE truth,

Nothing I can add beyond what has already been stated.

Certainly all scripture must be understood and interpreted within salvation is secure in Christ.

I doubt that @Guojing can lay down his losable salvation dogma.
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Interesting that you still think I believe salvation is losable. You obviously don't want to understand those who are mid acts dispensationalists.
 
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Guojing

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dcontroversal said:
Your incessant "what if" scenarios reek of a complete lack of trust, faith and or biblical understanding!

You are one of the top "skewers" of the word of God on this site that constantly SEEKS to twist the word to your salvation losing erroneous views.......

Look to Jesus man.....actually put your trust in him....HE KEEPS his word and KEEPS US BY HIS POWER through the FAITH HE INITIATES, FINISHES AND COMPLETES IN US!
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If people don't want to confront the implications of the doctrine they hold, that means they don't understand what they really believe.

You can be OSAS while still admitting that Hebrews to Revelations do not teach that. Those letters were not meant to.
 
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Guojing said:
If people don't want to confront the implications of the doctrine they hold, that means they don't understand what they really believe.

You can be OSAS while still admitting that Hebrews to Revelations do not teach that. Those letters were not meant to.
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Wrong pal....the bible drips with eternal security from front to back...there is NO DUAL SYSTEM of teaching in the bible...never has been, never will be!
 
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dcontroversal said:
Wrong pal....the bible drips with eternal security from front to back...there is NO DUAL SYSTEM of teaching in the bible...never has been, never will be!
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That is because you don't want to read books like 1 John and James literally, without inserting Romans to Philemon into it.
 
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Guojing said:
That is because you don't want to read books like 1 John and James literally, without inserting Romans to Philemon into it.
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Do you have anything to say with actual value or credence....? My post stands..there has never been, nor will there ever a dual system od teaching or two gospels.....EVER!
 
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dcontroversal said:
Do you have anything to say with actual value or credence....? My post stands..there has never been, nor will there ever a dual system od teaching or two gospels.....EVER!
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Yes you certainly have a right to hold that doctrine.
 
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