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Ariel82

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sheesh...what happened here? When I left yesterday, it was loving.
You can come under my umbrella and we can sing hymns together and wait for the clouds to break and God's light and grace and love to shine forth for all to see again....it's raining right now, but we each have our lamps. How is your oil?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=L5bLvVjJ4MA
 
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Ariel82

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Many a time but hey you know me.

Anyway I like the blue stuff. It brings out my features, what do you think?
Lol did someone get a hold of you while you slept?

We used to draw on the faces of whoever fell asleep first at sleepovers.

Good times, thank God for friends with a sense of humor.
 
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Says the man who has bleated in the past 'Don't call me a liar it reminds if my childhood and I get very upset about it and other posts you have said along the same lines.

If you can't take it don't give it
no idead what yur talking about here... are you ok ? coz you sound mad to me..

why so mad.. is it your work your anxiety or do you think this could be you or maybe denomic influence coz youve gotten quite horrible to me here ????????????

well maybe i should stop responding to you all to gethe..............r coz evidntly by this how you speak to me there is no way i can be your fine friend you called me from 5 posts ago.


and this is coming from someone who wants my permisson to speak to me how he likes....

this is billies pm to..
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Evening Jimbo, I hope all is well with you.
Thanks for pm me.

I think the issue is not disagreeing but it's how we disagree.
We have both been guilty of disagreeing but taking it personally.

Lets ensure we don't do that.

We are brothers in Christ let's make sure we act as brothers.

As for me I would ask that if you think I personally attacking you let's talk about it via PM.

God bless you my friend.







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billy im confused am i your brother in christ or not ?
 

BillG

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i reall dont know what ive done to do this but i get the feeling your mad with me for some reason...

Or is it your manners again getting the better of you ?

i dont se why i should take the can for your ill mannered responces to me anymore..
I trust your above quote is genuine.

Maybe you should go and look at the post I made that you reacted to.
Then look at your posts you made afterwards and reflect.

Why was my response ill mannered? Why did it make you repsond the way you did?
Truth is you went at me like a dog with a bone.

I have done that and to be honest I don't feel I have anything to reproach myself for, other than getting mad at you and swearing at you, for this I am sorry.

You mention manners. What are manners to you? You obviously feel I have none.
 
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We are not doing works of the flesh,but works of the Spirit,preach the Gospel,help the poor and needy,and abstain from sin,and anything that represents goodness,and if we do not do these works then faith is void in our life.

But then they will say but if we have Christ in us then we will do the works.Then why do we see the hypocrisy in society concernng these people that they seek after money,and material things,and engage in sin,and say,they cannot abstain from sin,but do it on purpose,not trying to abstain from sin,and say sin does not affect their relationship with God.

That is what needs to be explained,for if you observe them,and their lifestyle,there is a lot that love the world,and the things of the world,that is not of the Father.

But they will say but we will sin,but it can be forgiven,but they hold unto sin,and do not give it up,but it is a daily habit of holding unto sin,and doing it,and think they are right with God,which if they hold unto sin the blood of Jesus cannot wash it away.

And if they have Christ in them,and they will do the works,then why do they not do the works,for the kingdom of God is within you by the Spirit,and this is 24 hours a day,7 days a week,lifestyle,not once in a while labor for the kingdom,but the majority of the time live for the world enjoying the ways of it.

How can it be explained the hypocrisy where they hold unto sin,doing it on purpose,and be right with God.

I have observed them,and they make it a daily habit to enjoy the world,and the things of the world,which is not of the Father.

How can that be explained.

Faith alone,not saved by works,when we confess Christ,for that is all we can do for we are in the flesh.

A person is justified by works,and not faith alone,after they receive the Spirit,and work out your own salvation with fear and trembling,for you have the responsibility to keep making the choice to abstain from sin,and be Christlike,not love not the world,or the things in the world.

2Ti 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

Heb 3:12 Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.
Heb 3:13 But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.

1Pe 2:11 Dearly beloved, I beseech you as strangers and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul;
1Pe 2:12 Having your conversation honest among the Gentiles: that, whereas they speak against you as evildoers, they may by your good works, which they shall behold, glorify God in the day of visitation.

Jas 1:12 Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him.
Jas 1:13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:
Jas 1:14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
Jas 1:15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
Jas 1:16 Do not err, my beloved brethren.

1Co 15:33 Be not deceived: evil communications corrupt good manners.
1Co 15:34 Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this to your shame.

Jas 5:19 Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him;
Jas 5:20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.

1Jn 3:10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

Gal 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
Gal 5:17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
Gal 5:23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
Gal 5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
Gal 5:25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.

Explain the hypocrisy,and we might sin after we receive the Spirit,but that is because we want to sin,not because we cannot abstain from sin,and if they believe they cannot abstain from sin,and sin does not affect their relationship with God,they have some explaining to do.

For they will be hypocritical,for that is the purpose of them saying sin does not affect their relationship with God,so they can enjoy sin,enjoying the world,and the things in the world,and believe they are right with God,but God says they are not right with Him,for they sin on purpose,and hold unto sin,and like sin.

There are many beliefs in this world,and many interpretations of the Bible to go along with those belief.

To the occultist the Bible is about the occult,spiritual evolution through nature,and Jesus is not Lord and Savior,but a good teacher in spiritual enlightenment,and an ascended master,and avatar.

To the prejudice,the white people will say Cain is the seed of the devil,and the mark on Cain is black skin,and the throne of David moved to England,and the royal family descendants of David,and the 10 lost tribes are European.

To the african american people they are the true Jews,from the tribe of Judah,and so forth.

To the Buddhist,a buddhist interpretation,to the Hinduist,a hinduist interpretation.

And so on,and the people that believe they cannot abstain from sin,and sin does not affect their relationship with God,are no exception,but believe according to what they want,like the other groups of people that believe the Bible how they want to hear it.
thats the issue exactly. when teaching others how sin really doesnt affect you or your " security" because Gods grace is about excusing on going sin, and has no condition of repentance...when "repent" is the first word of Jesus Gospel ministry. all the strange new teachings about grace and " dividing" the word, and the gospel not really being the gospel, or Jesus teachings and commands are the Law of moses. those kinds of things spread to others. ive heard alot of things like everything before the cross is old testament teaching and doesnt apply to the church."

about any reason to get away from Jesus words His explainations of His return, His judgement according to our deeds, His teachings of How were taught to live and act, actually discouraging service and casting it in a "self righteous" mold of " trying to save yourself" "your missing Grace" " ? you think you are actually supposed to apply these things to your life? pshhh pharisee ....to me its pretty much not really an issue either you are about doing whats right Because God gave His Son over to humiliation and suffering that we might be forgiven according to Jesus punishment <<<<<<<< that should be enough for people to take His word above the rest of the voices.

Jesus gives understanding of the Bible His spiritual Knowledge in us brings it all together. The four gospels are the ways of life for christians the lessons taught in them the events that happen in them, those things are christianity. Jesus and His disciples, purchased with His Blood, risen to life by His spirit and walking in the light of His Word.
 
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Jesus said "I have many things to tell you but you cannot bear them now. But the Holy Spirit when He comes - He will teach you all things and reveal the things of Me and show them unto you."

Meaning - Jesus had many other things to tell us but the disciples couldn't understand them yet - Jesus has used Paul to show what these things are by the Holy Spirit. You do not get these in the 4 gospels. The words spoken to Paul are from Jesus' words and are just as valid.

The proclamation of Christ produces the profession of Christ, but the explanation of Christ is what produces the experience of Christ.

Believers can never fully enjoy the triumph of the gospel and express Christ in this world victoriously
until there has been an explanation and exposition of the vivid details of the redemptive work of Christ that has gained a foothold in our renewed minds.

The 4 gospels were eyewitness accounts of the historical events in the life and ministry of our Lord Jesus Christ. Christianity is based on the veracity of these events as having occurred in real time, in all historicity and specificity.

Nevertheless it is the unveiling of the spiritual realities of these events that relates to the believer in Christ. This is found in the revelation that the Lord Jesus Christ gave to the apostle Paul.

The 4 gospels are the proclamation of the gospel. They disclose to us what men saw. Acts of the apostles is the demonstration of the gospel, but it is Paul's letters which give us an explanation of the gospel. It is the Pauline Epistles that are the constitution of this church age.

Paul's epistles explain what happened from the cross, death, burial, quickening and resurrection to the being seated at the right hand of the Father. Without these epistles we would have no idea what Jesus our Lord actually accomplished for us.

Paul was taught by Jesus Christ Himself to explain His gospel = to reveal the mystery that was hidden in God until it was revealed by Christ to Paul. The mystery being Christ Himself and the riches of that glory is that Christ is in us and we are in union with Him as one spirit!

These "explanations" of the mystery of the gospel that Christ is in us - cannot be found openly in the 4 gospels themselves. We need to marry the things Paul said with the words of Jesus in the 4 gospels.

It is in Paul's explanation of the gospel that Christ is in us - the hope of glory where we find the nutrients to walk by the spirit.
 
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willybob

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the road is narrow but the path to hell is wide and easy and many will follow it............


FEW WILL FOLLOW THE GOOD PATH AND MANY WILL FOLLOW THE CROOKED PATH BECUASE ITS WIDE AND EASY AND STRAIGHT TO HELL PAL... ALL THO I HOPE NOT FOR YOU OR ANYONE........
very true Jimbo, the flesh looks for the path of least resistance, I know I did my whole life, for its was by may self-made habitual nature I formed in me until coming to the knowledge of the truth..the flesh hates to crucify the lusts therein that gives birth to sin, but Peter said through much suffering does one cease from sin...be blessed
 

stonesoffire

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You can come under my umbrella and we can sing hymns together and wait for the clouds to break and God's light and grace and love to shine forth for all to see again....it's raining right now, but we each have our lamps. How is your oil?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=L5bLvVjJ4MA
Love that song. I can't help but sing when I hear it. :) I need a daily fillup. lol

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BillG

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no idead what yur talking about here... are you ok ? coz you sound mad to me..

why so mad.. is it your work your anxiety or do you think this could be you or maybe denomic influence coz youve gotten quite horrible to me here ????????????

well maybe i should stop responding to you all to gethe..............r coz evidntly by this how you speak to me there is no way i can be your fine friend you called me from 5 posts ago.


and this is coming from someone who wants my permisson to speak to me how he likes....

this is billies pm to..
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Evening Jimbo, I hope all is well with you.
Thanks for pm me.

I think the issue is not disagreeing but it's how we disagree.
We have both been guilty of disagreeing but taking it personally.

Lets ensure we don't do that.

We are brothers in Christ let's make sure we act as brothers.

As for me I would ask that if you think I personally attacking you let's talk about it via PM.

God bless you my friend.







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billy im confused am i your brother in christ or not ?
Yes you are my brother in Christ.

The PM you have quoted above was your response to me when I PM'd you (if memory serves me)
That PM I sent was when you were you were going at me and others because you were going off on one when people disagreed with you and you took it personally.

Just like you have done tonight.

I notice you have not done what I asked for in my last sentence of my PM.

Sorry brother but you have continued to keep it on-line and not off line.
 
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I really cannot believe you have just said what you have.

Truly shocking.

I have no idea why you have posted what you have.

I was just giving my thoughts and now you tell I'm brainwashed, I need to wake up and then attack my honesty about my anxiety and believe that you can't believe what I have tried to enagage with.

You my friend have no idea what I have been through and your probably not even interested because you are so self absorbed.

As we say over here and forgive me true friends, Jimbo your a twat.

Not nice is it, but by inference you've just called me one.

You and I is finished.
oh you however think that your the only one that have been through something by the looks of things you need help with understanding that Some people have gone through alot too..
all i can say i will pray for you billy lad and i hope ill pray your anxiety goes but your totaly think the wrong thing of me..

Thats can also be a side effect of an illness called axiety... to think people are attacking you when there not...

Ps what you went through is no one elses fault but the one person who put you through it which if your anxiiety is bad as you say it is,,,, than that person will be judged accordingly ...

which i can only pray you will find the courage to carry on praying for us and your self..

and i feel you need prayer and maybe a visit from someone born of the spirit..
 
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Only Jesus can save

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Magenta

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yeah but i believe we should fear the lord from time to time.. ?
Fear has to do with punishment. That is Scripture! Why do you fear being punished? There is now no condemnation in Christ Jesus. That is Scripture also. If you want to do it your way, you will suffer. Better to believe the good book :) Perfect love casts out fear...
 

BillG

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oh you however think that your the only one that have been through something by the looks of things you need help with understanding that Some people have gone through alot too..
all i can say i will pray for you billy lad and i hope ill pray your anxiety goes but your totaly think the wrong thing of me..

Thats can also be a side effect of an illness called axiety... to think people are attacking you when there not...

Ps what you went through is no one elses fault but the one person who put you through it which if your anxiiety is bad as you say it is,,,, than that person will be judged accordingly ...

which i can only pray you will find the courage to carry on praying for us and your self..

and i feel you need prayer and maybe a visit from someone born of the spirit..
Hey how about go and tell my Christian foster dad who sexually abused me when my mum through me out when I was 14.

Hey how about you go and tell my mum that when she beat me silly and gave me black eyes as her fists rained down on my face.

Hey how about telling my real dad whose only memory I have is him breaking into our flat in Scotland and going to hit my mum who ducked and he knocked me out and was in hospital for weeks.


Hey how about you tell that to the CID who came round and asked me if my Foster dad was sexually abusing me and I said no because the other choices of going back to my mum or going into a foster home.

Hey about telling my mum when I was in hospital and was minutes away from death and my mum wouldn't visit and say I hope he dies.

Hey tell them all it want their fault and it's all mine.

Oh well now I know who's fault it is. Obviously mine.
 
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Many a time but hey you know me.

Anyway I like the blue stuff. It brings out my features, what do you think?
I'd have to agree.

That long hair don't look bad on ya either.

You're good looking all around..
Outside and Inside.