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loveme1

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blue_ladybug said:
You posted a verse that says we cannot be saved unless we are born of water (and the HS).. Jesus is the Living Water..it is through HIM that we are born again.. not from literal water..
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Read through what the Messiah spoke.. it may help to read the prior about going back in to the womb.... look at the word flesh...
 
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It's impossible for us to go back into the womb. :rolleyes: That is a comparison, to being born again..


loveme1 said:
Read through what the Messiah spoke.. it may help to read the prior about going back in to the womb.... look at the word flesh...
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loveme1

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loveme1 said:
Where have I said it referred to water baptism?

And now you speak against the Messiah's teaching? If you are not born again of the spirit you can not enter into The kingdom of GOD...
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You said it has zero to do with salvation...
 
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loveme1 said:
Baptized with the Holy Spirit by the Grace of GOD through Faith in the Messiah.
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I actually agree with you. Only those baptized with the Holy spirit are born again believers. This happens after verbal confession of a saving faith from the heart which is given by the grace of God and not by works.
 
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Ariel82 said:
Perhaps you should quote some "grieve the Holy spirit" verses?
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In line with what was spoken by the woman.... but if you must go ahead.... after all you usually just make your own stuff in place of... You have taught falsely above.
 
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loveme1 said:
In line with what was spoken by the woman.... but if you must go ahead.... after all you usually just make your own stuff in place of... You have taught falsely above.
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I taught falsely by agreeing with you about the need to be baptized by the Holy spirit?

Cuz that is my post above the one I am responding to...
 
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"The woman"? LOL

So my name is "the woman" now.. cool beans.. lol

loveme1 said:
In line with what was spoken by the woman.... but if you must go ahead.... after all you usually just make your own stuff in place of... You have taught falsely above.
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Ariel82 said:
I taught falsely by agreeing with you?
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I directly quoted scripture earlier and it was called heresy...so.......good luck....another law keeping working for cake taker.......everyone else is wrong and she alone has the truth.....!
 
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I am reading the thread backwards and don't see loveme say anything about having to have to be baptized by water folks...,y'all might have misunderstood her.
 
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Ariel82 said:
I taught falsely by agreeing with you about the need to be baptized by the Holy spirit?

Cuz that is my post above the one I am responding to...
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Go read your post and my sharing of scripture.
 
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blue_ladybug said:
"The woman"? LOL

So my name is "the woman" now.. cool beans.. lol
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Kind of like George Clooney in "THE AMERICAN" ...........imagine that....THE WOMAN....like she is JESUS or something.....she cannot even say the name of JESUS.....like it is a bad word or something....
 
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For the love of a duck, Ariel. Read forward. It's easier..lol


Ariel82 said:
I am reading the thread backwards and don't see loveme say anything about having to have to be baptized by water folks...,y'all might have misunderstood her.
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No she isn't blue, I have talked to her before..,trying to remember if it was a good or bad conversation.
 
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