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Ariel82

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I think you should start with your friends posts first..... if you read through you should catch on.
No I pretty much know what they believe on the topic and though they can be kind of ..,.harsh with folks that they perceive is teaching a false gospel, they do believe in the Bible.

Sides I thought we were friends?
 
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Nah I ignore dcon when he goes to throwing cake at folks.

No offense Dcon, Just stating what I do.
No offence taken...I call it like I see it.....workers for = cake takers....end of story.....! Although my new phrase is coming online....."CAINOLOGY" he taught works as well and false teachers are compared to three in Jude with Cain being the first on the list.....
 

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Why do you disagree that Christ blood covers all our sins?
Not commenting to Ariel, only commenting on the statement concerning the Blood of Christ and who it actually covers according to the Word of God.
The Blood of Christ covers only those who are walking in the light as Jesus walked in the light. The Blood of Jesus does not cover those who knowingly and willingly continue to walk in darkness all the while proclaiming with their lips they are walking in the light.

1Jn_1:6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:


Do you say you have fellowship with Jesus yet choose to willingly commit sin which is most certainly walking in darkness?

1Jn_1:7 But IF(CONDITIONAL) we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

ONLY when we are walking in the light as He does, are we TRULY cleansed by His Blood. Those who knowingly and willingly choose to do something they KNOW is sinful, evil, and wicked, but choose to do it anyways, are NOT cleansed by His Blood, because they choose to obey His enemy, and it is written your master is to whom you obey.

Rom_6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

When a person is being tempted to commit sin. The devil is saying "Do it", Jesus is saying "Don't do it, it is against Me". What you choose to do, reveals who your master is. Woe to this generation which think they know Jesus, and know Him not at all. Not that anyone on these boards are such. Surely NONE of you willingly obey satan and commit sins against Jesus Christ. Your Master is the one you choose to obey. Those who obey ONLY Jesus receive the Holy Ghost.

Act_5:32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.

Woe to them who think God gives the Holy Ghost to those who continue to live in sins.

Repent, cease to obey satan. get rid of that sin that so easily besets you. Woe to them who will refuse to hear the TRUTH of Scriptures, but choose to believe the teachings of men, and their false doctrines.

No temptation so strong that you can't handle it, and with ever temptation Jesus allows a path out of it. Woe to them who do not look for that path, nor do they seek the strength and power of Jesus to overcome that temptation, but obey the voice of demons and choose to commit sins, which they know full well is sinful, but do them anyways. There will be much weeping and gnashing of teeth. Not that any on CC are such. ONLY talking about those who freely obey the enemy of God and choose to commit sin.

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††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††

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loveme1

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I think you are misreading her comments.,, she says "no strings attached" is unbiblical.

You have to admit that unconditional love is a difficult concept to understand unless you first experience from God. Even then it's hard to understand, just live and give to others.

Ariel, I'm sharing scripture.. not against Scripture but in line with. I get replied to after sharing Scripture.... as though I am writing that piece personally..... folks please adhere to Scripture.
 
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Ariel82

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GOD forbid I offer up anything other than Faith in the Messiah. I call for the Messiah to advocate for me. GOD help me if believe my works could save me.
Hmmmm....interesting..,.
 
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Not commenting to Ariel, only commenting on the statement concerning the Blood of Christ and who it actually covers according to the Word of God.
The Blood of Christ covers only those who are walking in the light as Jesus walked in the light. The Blood of Jesus does not cover those who knowingly and willingly continue to walk in darkness all the while proclaiming with their lips they are walking in the light.

1Jn_1:6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:


Do you say you have fellowship with Jesus yet choose to willingly commit sin which is most certainly walking in darkness?

1Jn_1:7 But IF(CONDITIONAL) we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

ONLY when we are walking in the light as He does, are we TRULY cleansed by His Blood. Those who knowingly and willingly choose to do something they KNOW is sinful, evil, and wicked, but choose to do it anyways, are NOT cleansed by His Blood, because they choose to obey His enemy, and it is written your master is to whom you obey.

Rom_6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

When a person is being tempted to commit sin. The devil is saying "Do it", Jesus is saying "Don't do it, it is against Me". What you choose to do, reveals who your master is. Woe to this generation which think they know Jesus, and know Him not at all. Not that anyone on these boards are such. Surely NONE of you willingly obey satan and commit sins against Jesus Christ. Your Master is the one you choose to obey. Those who obey ONLY Jesus receive the Holy Ghost.

Act_5:32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.

Woe to them who think God gives the Holy Ghost to those who continue to live in sins.

Repent, cease to obey satan. get rid of that sin that so easily besets you. Woe to them who will refuse to hear the TRUTH of Scriptures, but choose to believe the teachings of men, and their false doctrines.

No temptation so strong that you can't handle it, and with ever temptation Jesus allows a path out of it. Woe to them who do not look for that path, nor do they seek the strength and power of Jesus to overcome that temptation, but obey the voice of demons and choose to commit sins, which they know full well is sinful, but do them anyways. There will be much weeping and gnashing of teeth. Not that any on CC are such. ONLY talking about those who freely obey the enemy of God and choose to commit sin.

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††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††

DiscipleDave.com
Oh hey look...the self proclaimed prophet that God will reference on the day of judgment.....how about quoting the rest of John and quit pushing a sinless perfectionist CAINOLOGY......
 

blue_ladybug

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Ariel, how can "no strings attached" be unbiblical? There are NOT ANY strings attached to our salvation.. Jesus says very clearly that if we only believe and have faith, we are saved by His grace. There aren't any "but you must do this and that also" strings hanging on anywhere.. If "no strings attached" IS unbiblical, I'd like to know how, because if that's true, then our salvation has conditions attached to it..


I think you are misreading her comments.,, she says "no strings attached" is unbiblical.

You have to admit that unconditional love is a difficult concept to understand unless you first experience from God. Even then it's hard to understand, just live and give to others.
 

loveme1

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No I pretty much know what they believe on the topic and though they can be kind of ..,.harsh with folks that they perceive is teaching a false gospel, they do believe in the Bible.

Sides I thought we were friends?
I have not received much Scripture mostly their beliefs...

If you love them then you should discourage them.

You and I have gone through Scripture over the years... I count you a friend but you seem to be playing to their tune...
 

blue_ladybug

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This is laughable. The only scripture you've posted, doesn't even apply to what anyone is talking about..

I said that water baptism doesn't save us. You post a scripture saying that we must be born again of water, and go back into the womb literally.. NOTHING you've posted is in line with anything or anyone..

Ariel, I'm sharing scripture.. not against Scripture but in line with. I get replied to after sharing Scripture.... as though I am writing that piece personally..... folks please adhere to Scripture.
 
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I see you never quit trying to defile people. Take your demons elsewhere, be-gone with you.

Seriously Ariel, you need to book mark where you leave off reading, so you can find it later.. LOL

She says that John 3:16 is unbiblical. That blasphemy of the HS is unbiblical. She's bordering on heresy..
Oh hey look...the self proclaimed prophet that God will reference on the day of judgment.....how about quoting the rest of John and quit pushing a sinless perfectionist CAINOLOGY......
 
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I have not received much Scripture mostly their beliefs...

If you love them then you should discourage them.

You and I have gone through Scripture over the years... I count you a friend but you seem to be playing to their tune...
Now you are just lying....I posted 18 verses that prove salvation by faith void of works and asked for you to post 10 in context that do and you argued and failed to post one....another deceiver here for sure.....!
 
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Ariel82

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Ariel, how can "no strings attached" be unbiblical? There are NOT ANY strings attached to our salvation.. Jesus says very clearly that if we only believe and have faith, we are saved by His grace. There aren't any "but you must do this and that also" strings hanging on anywhere.. If "no strings attached" IS unbiblical, I'd like to know how, because if that's true, then our salvation has conditions attached to it..
I figured it out....I avoid folks who condemn other for not keeping the 7th day Sabbath, ESPECIALLY IF they don't understand how Jesus is our Sabbath rest. Not sure if she goes that far or not.

This thread may shed some light:

http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/81258-how-keep-sabbath.html#post1333092
 
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I see you never quit trying to defile people. Take your demons elsewhere, be-gone with you.
My quote is true based upon his own words pal.........so.....mind your own business or have facts before you flap.....
 
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Ariel82

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I have not received much Scripture mostly their beliefs...

If you love them then you should discourage them.

You and I have gone through Scripture over the years... I count you a friend but you seem to be playing to their tune...
I believe you misunderstand what they are saying if you believe they are against doing good works for God's glory.
 

blue_ladybug

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Stop lying. You HAVE received scripture from us, yet all you say is "that's unbiblical".. You don't post any scripture that proves what YOU believe, nor are you able to post scripture to refute against what WE believe... There has been much scripture posted on this 900 plus page thread.. and you dismiss it all as unbiblical.

I have not received much Scripture mostly their beliefs...

If you love them then you should discourage them.

You and I have gone through Scripture over the years... I count you a friend but you seem to be playing to their tune...
 
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I figured it out....I avoid folks who condemn other for not keeping the 7th day Sabbath, ESPECIALLY IF they don't understand how Jesus is our Sabbath rest. I think we ended our conversation years ago with her not liking me.
Hello Ariel, how are you today? So Jesus is our Sabbath? Can you show me where it says in God's Word that Jesus is our Sabbath? Seems like someone is making things up
 

loveme1

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Now you are just lying....I posted 18 verses that prove salvation by faith void of works and asked for you to post 10 in context that do and you argued and failed to post one....another deceiver here for sure.....!
Is there any one that can witness against this man? He posted 18 verses and added no works at the end. Who is the deceiver? Is there anyone here that can see the Truth according to GOD?
 

blue_ladybug

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Oh be quiet. Loveme says the scripture posted here is unbiblical. She borders on heresy.. Get with the program and be gone with yourself..

I see you never quit trying to defile people. Take your demons elsewhere, be-gone with you.