Obedience, Oh No!
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I asked a question of you.
"So if I don't bring a goat to the Levite Priest for atonement of my sins, I am just as guilty as if I murdered my neighbor?"
You answered.
If you believe that one must keep the Law as given to Israel through Moses,, yes.
Both are sin and breaking the Law.
But the Law and Prophets say over and over that God desired obedience, not sacrifice, and He gave us a promise of the New Covenant that I posed in reply to your post.
How is it a sin to follow the Law and the Prophets in regards to the Priesthood? If I or Paul or Jesus wasn't following the Law and the Prophets, how would they even know about the New Covenant and what it is?
And to be honest, I did say I wasn't interested in this law or that law, rather, rightly dividing the Word of Truth. Does that make me a promoter of "Hersey" in your religion?
"So if I don't bring a goat to the Levite Priest for atonement of my sins, I am just as guilty as if I murdered my neighbor?"
You answered.
If you believe that one must keep the Law as given to Israel through Moses,, yes.
Both are sin and breaking the Law.
But the Law and Prophets say over and over that God desired obedience, not sacrifice, and He gave us a promise of the New Covenant that I posed in reply to your post.
How is it a sin to follow the Law and the Prophets in regards to the Priesthood? If I or Paul or Jesus wasn't following the Law and the Prophets, how would they even know about the New Covenant and what it is?
And to be honest, I did say I wasn't interested in this law or that law, rather, rightly dividing the Word of Truth. Does that make me a promoter of "Hersey" in your religion?
if a person is brainwashed they can only parrot the wording they have heard. All other wordings will be seen as false even if the meaning is the same because fundamentally a brainwashed person doesn't understand what he has been brainwashed to believe. This is VERY current in the church today with pulpiteers fooling people with nice sounding words that speak lies and fables...just as it was prophesied in the bible. So... let's try different wordings. Feel free to google just to be sure!
is it possible to "frustrate" the grace of God?
Is it possible to "obey" the gospel?
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if a person is brainwashed they can only parrot the wording they have heard. All other wordings will be seen as false even if the meaning is the same because fundamentally a brainwashed person doesn't understand what he has been brainwashed to believe. This is VERY current in the church today with pulpiteers fooling people with nice sounding words that speak lies and fables...just as it was prophesied in the bible. So... let's try different wordings. Feel free to google just to be sure!
is it possible to "frustrate" the grace of God?
Is it possible to "obey" the gospel?
is it possible to "frustrate" the grace of God?
Is it possible to "obey" the gospel?
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Yes, and that's what I was trying to get you to see.
The law of Moses did not go away. We uphold it in the NEW WAY of the Spirit, not in the old way of the written word itself (Romans 7:6).
"6But now, by dying to what once bound us (the flesh), we have been released from the law (to keep us bound to the flesh) so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code."-Romans 7:6
"there is only one God, who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through that same faith. 31Do we, then, nullify the law by this faith? Not at all! Rather, we uphold the law (of Moses-see vs.28)."-Romans 3:30-31
The law of Moses did not go away. We uphold it in the NEW WAY of the Spirit, not in the old way of the written word itself (Romans 7:6).
"6But now, by dying to what once bound us (the flesh), we have been released from the law (to keep us bound to the flesh) so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code."-Romans 7:6
"there is only one God, who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through that same faith. 31Do we, then, nullify the law by this faith? Not at all! Rather, we uphold the law (of Moses-see vs.28)."-Romans 3:30-31
Grace is the new law. It is the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus. It is the law that overcomes sin. Like the law of flight that overcomes the law of gravity. So then abiding in Christ is like abiding in a airplane. In Christ we overcome si, the devil and the world. In a plane we just overcome the law of gravity. So then grace IS law.
I think you are confusing grace with mercy....which IS an aspect of God's character.
I think you are confusing grace with mercy....which IS an aspect of God's character.