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Again. Stop calling him mentally unstable just because he asked you a question you cannot answer.
Please by all means ask me this question again instead of roasting me over a fire of ignorance
 

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And here is the gang I'm talking about. You don't know me and I don't know you. All I can go by is posts directed at me. If you are defending a mentally unstable person please inform us so we can pray for this individual
I don't know you well true but I saw how you were speaking, specifically the part saying maybe God sent you here to confront the garbage spewing from their mouths. I am not defending a mentally unstable person I am defending my family, I would like to consider you family as well but you can't expect me to stand by let you speak like that can you?

Let me ask you something what is your purpose on cc? Are you hear to debate? to make friends?
 
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I don't know you well true but I saw how you were speaking, specifically the part saying maybe God sent you here to confront the garbage spewing from their mouths. I am not defending a mentally unstable person I am defending my family, I would like to consider you family as well but you can't expect me to stand by let you speak like that can you?

Let me ask you something what is your purpose on cc? Are you hear to debate? to make friends?
I would say debate against this new gospel. Many see this hyper grace defended as a true gospel. I am one of the ones who say it is false doctrine to be avoided by everyone. For this I am attacked. I believe in Christ's gospel and cannot stand the watering down of my Lord's Gospel. If they are your friends, I'm sorry, but willful ignorance is not accepted in my opinion.
 

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For this I am attacked
Disagreeing with you, and giving the reasons why, is not "attacking" you. Stop playing the martyr.
 
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Disagreeing with you, and giving the reasons why, is not "attacking" you. Stop playing the martyr.
Sir, I'm not playing the martyr. Anyone here that does not subscribe to this hyper grace, new gospel is attacked here. Don't be stupid
 

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I would say debate against this new gospel. Many see this hyper grace defended as a true gospel. I am one of the ones who say it is false doctrine to be avoided by everyone. For this I am attacked. I believe in Christ's gospel and cannot stand the watering down of my Lord's Gospel. If they are your friends, I'm sorry, but willful ignorance is not accepted in my opinion.
hmm... Well I don't understand the hyper grace doctrine enough to speak about it but regardless of what doctrine you try to prove disprove or debate about you will always be attacked in one way or another this is to be expected but it's how you respond that makes the difference. You say some harsh things when being (attacked) although I wouldn't call this being attacked I have been attacked I have been called demonic the slave of lucifer I have had scriptures twisted and thrown at me like a dagger but as I continued to respond in a chirst like manner in a mature and calm manner I saw some of the attackers have a change of heart.

Besides more often than not a heart that is humble and responds in love has more power than a heart that is right, you can try to prove a doctrine wrong using scripture using your words but I have been in the bdf long enough to know that only by seeing the heart of god from you will people ever listen or change. and yes they are my friends but they are also my family, but if you believe in Christs gospel then you should know what I have said about debating and how to react and should have reacted as such.
 
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hmm... Well I don't understand the hyper grace doctrine enough to speak about it but regardless of what doctrine you try to prove disprove or debate about you will always be attacked in one way or another this is to be expected but it's how you respond that makes the difference. You say some harsh things when being (attacked) although I wouldn't call this being attacked I have been attacked I have been called demonic the slave of lucifer I have had scriptures twisted and thrown at me like a dagger but as I continued to respond in a chirst like manner in a mature and calm manner I saw some of the attackers have a change of heart.

Besides more often than not a heart that is humble and responds in love has more power than a heart that is right, you can try to prove a doctrine wrong using scripture using your words but I have been in the bdf long enough to know that only by seeing the heart of god from you will people ever listen or change. and yes they are my friends but they are also my family, but if you believe in Christs gospel then you should know what I have said about debating and how to react and should have reacted as such.
Sir, i have no beef with you. I thought this was a Christian site.I see now i was wrong
 

Blain

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Sir, i have no beef with you. I thought this was a Christian site.I see now i was wrong
I am not trying to upset you or anything but yes this is a Christian site but what does it mean to be a Christian?
 
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I am not trying to upset you or anything but yes this is a Christian site but what does it mean to be a Christian?
I'm sorry sir but I beg to differ. The gang mentallity here is not Christian and I see you all defend your own. Sorry for intruding on your turf
 

Blain

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I'm sorry sir but I beg to differ. The gang mentallity here is not Christian and I see you all defend your own. Sorry for intruding on your turf
There isn't a gang mentality and I would defend you as well if ever need be. I would like it if you didn't leave and got know everyone a bit better I want you to see that there are many kind people in this place. Just for a few more days at least if then you wish to leave while I would be sad I would say goodbye
 
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Do you understand blood atonement from the old testament?
No sir, i don't think so. Could you explain how this means we are to do nothing for God?
I hope you would one day understand this. Where has anyone said on CC that because of this blood atonement, we should do nothing for God? Don't you know that it's the blood of Jesus that saves?("faith in his blood" Rom 3:25) For without the shedding of blood is no remission(Heb 9:22), without the applied blood we have no hope(modeled in Exo 12:13). The blood atonement in the OT foreshadowed the blood sacrifice of Christ in the NT. His blood completely saves us, it is ETERNAL redemption!

"But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building; Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us." Heb 9:11-12
 
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I see this a lot. Oh well, the search continues. Just can't believe I might have wasted time here.
 

Blain

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I see this a lot. Oh well, the search continues. Just can't believe I might have wasted time here.
Even if you don't find what you were seeking here I don't think it was waste of time, I am sure you learned something at least. i have many teachers some don't even know they are teaching by attacking me and calling me horrible things but I learn from all the same:)
 
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I hope you would one day understand this. Where has anyone said on CC that because of this blood atonement, we should do nothing for God? Don't you know that it's the blood of Jesus that saves?("faith in his blood" Rom 3:25) For without the shedding of blood is no remission(Heb 9:22), without the applied blood we have no hope(modeled in Exo 12:13). The blood atonement in the OT foreshadowed the blood sacrifice of Christ in the NT. His blood completely saves us, it is ETERNAL redemption!

"But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building; Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us." Heb 9:11-12
And you are blind. Your Grace only crowd says anything for God is works based Salvation and I don't understand why. I guess this is a site for the blind leading the blind to eternal damnation. If I'm wrong for standing up against this, then you are all so far gone, i hope my prayers will help
 

Blain

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And you are blind. Your Grace only crowd says anything for God is works based Salvation and I don't understand why. I guess this is a site for the blind leading the blind to eternal damnation. If I'm wrong for standing up against this, then you are all so far gone, i hope my prayers will help
You don't get to decide about peoples eternal damnation, just because someone disagrees with you is no reason to say such things.
More than what doctrine we hold true the fruit of a persons heart decides if we are saved or not.
 
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Good luck with your little self righteousness crowd. I don't think Jesus would be a member of your click
 

Blain

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Good luck with your little self righteousness crowd. I don't think Jesus would be a member of your click
You seem to think you know our hearts and you haven't been here long at all.
You talk as if you believe yourself to be a true Christian and not us but again what does it mean to be a Christian?
 
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I see this a lot. Oh well, the search continues. Just can't believe I might have wasted time here.
Hope you stick around. It's a great place to learn from other people's mistakes. :) Just put the idiots on ignore.
 
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