Once Saved Always saved....Read this
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that would be a problem, but you know, i've never actually met someone who ever said that.
what i've consistently heard from the saints, is that we conduct ourselves in righteousness because we have received grace, not in order to receive it. isn't that just what the scripture says, over and over?
and it also says that we are God's handiwork, purposed for good works.
ain't no reason to stop rejoicing over the free gift of grace and redemption, just because we have a purpose. that amazing, abundant grace is exactly what compels and enables me to carry out that purpose!
anybody on this thread think it's cool to go on wantonly sinning, and proud of how wicked you are? because of the great grace you've been given? speak up.
Nikki & i want to tell you that you're not fulfilling your purpose, and you ought to clean it up and do something in return for the gift you've been given.
freely you have received, freely give.
(Matthew 10:8)
that's the command of the Lord, folks. ↑ (Matthew 10:8)
give back to Him of what you've received, in the way you received it: FREELY
You hypocrite.
You persist in sin yourself. You sin every single day.
And thus, by the word of God, you are not born of God.
"Whoever is born of God does not commit sin; for His seed remains in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God." (1 John 3:9)
You consistently ignore that verse, because you know you are sinful.
We are sure grateful that Luther didn't listen to the 1,300 years of church history and tradition when he said " The just shall live by faith"...we are saved by grace through faith alone...whenever "sacred cows" have a knife to their throats...the legalists scream to keep them cows alive...and use "church history and tradition" as their ammo against the grace of Christ.
i'm pretty sure e.g. is just trying to get you to focus on the what the Bible says about grace, instead of ante-nicene or post-nicene writers, because the scripture outweighs any of those writings - we know from the scripture that there was plenty of heresy and false teaching from the beginning, so just because something is written in the first couple of centuries of the history of the church doesn't make it right. it still needs to be compared with scripture. even the Bereans compared Paul with scripture.
that doesn't mean e.g. is ignorant; it means he holds scripture in higher regard than any other text.
and yes, trying to turn discussions back towards the Bible is indeed how the Bible discussion forum "goes"
-- that's why we call it the 'Bible discussion forum'
y'all are supposed to be brothers, and i know brothers spat, but do please remember that ♥