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Oh I was supposed to respone to these scripture-less assertions? Okay.
So your saying because God knows if were saved or not at the point of conversion, then we should all assume that if one is living in sin, he was never saved?
Or wait, no you say one living in sin will be brought back...
Or wait again, you also say one who has not shown a changed life was never saved, because he has not repented.
There you have it - Contraction #1
Concerning if GOd knows if were saved or not, I would say sure he does. Yet you dont. I dont teach God is not all knowing.
So if I say "one can lose salvtion" I mean he can loose what he thinks he as based on sin.
So whether or not God knew if he was saved or not is not for me to know. But any person who beleives they are saved, cannot tbleive they are saved forever if they are living in sin.
You preach about "judging others", yet your playing God saying who really saved or not. YOu say one who lives in sin was never really saved, at the same time say we cant be judged eternally, yet your saying sin will cause us to never have been saved, sound eternal to me.
Second, you say a Chrisgtiana living in sin will be broght back, at the same time saying a person living in shows he was never saved - so HOW CAN A CHRISTIAN LIVE IN A MANNER THAT SHOWS HE WAS NEVER SAVED BE BROUGHT BACK??????
YOU CANT ANSWER THIS....oh yea, sorry you interpret caps as screaming, so ill revert back to lower case and use bold for emphasis.
Wow, now your just going to stick words in my mouth because you have nothing.
show one time i said any of this???? ONE just ONE or even showed were somthing I said implied it. I am calling you out...so answer.
When one becomes a Christian, if God says nope, this person will never change, or if he says "welcome" is not something I know nor you!
All we as men here know, is that we have teh Bible that tells us what to do. Yet if God chooses not to save someone, I dont know that, so I have no right to say, "they were never saved".
question:
If God does choose at the point of conversion if one is truly saved or not, what is his choice based on?
Repentance? hmmmm that would imply we mUST repent
Works? You do teach this, because you say one who has NO works has dead faith and is not saved.
So you believe since God knows our motives, thoughts, and what we will do, he does not save those who have NO works in their future.
Therefore you believe one MUST have a work to obtain salvation, or he was never really saved. Basing salvation on if he has a work or no works - Contradiction #2
Then how can you say works dont save, if it is by works we are really saved or not????
You just keep putting your foot in your mouth.
Can you answer this? In fact you dont have to answer anything else, just this one. Because you cant do it and remain consisent.
Here we go, back to the straw man argument because you do not have one.
question to EG that he is afraid to answer or acknowledge:
EG, is keeping God's commands (obedience) a work or the duty of a Christian?????????????????
Simple question, work or duty.
If a work, then explain Luke 17:10, Ecc 12:13
If a duty - then is fulfilling a duty "earning" anything, or doing what is expected?????
HE WILL NOT ANSWER THIS...i mean he will not answer this
This is just the continuation of the straw man you attempted, but the questions above wil blow that away, the reason you wont answer them
What do you mean? You have not stopped. Your telling people they can remain in SOME sin, telling them tehy will have no eternal consequences for doing so.
I guess you dont get your message is sin. Your promoting sin, and watering down the consequences, deceiving people with your devilish lies.
The fate of those who do this is sealed. Unless you repent. Which you can, and I hope with all my heart you do.
you contradict yourself. Yes God knows our motives, he knows everything we do, and will ever do. Yet your gospel denys this.
Or wait, no you say one living in sin will be brought back...
Or wait again, you also say one who has not shown a changed life was never saved, because he has not repented.
There you have it - Contraction #1
Concerning if GOd knows if were saved or not, I would say sure he does. Yet you dont. I dont teach God is not all knowing.
So if I say "one can lose salvtion" I mean he can loose what he thinks he as based on sin.
So whether or not God knew if he was saved or not is not for me to know. But any person who beleives they are saved, cannot tbleive they are saved forever if they are living in sin.
You preach about "judging others", yet your playing God saying who really saved or not. YOu say one who lives in sin was never really saved, at the same time say we cant be judged eternally, yet your saying sin will cause us to never have been saved, sound eternal to me.
Second, you say a Chrisgtiana living in sin will be broght back, at the same time saying a person living in shows he was never saved - so HOW CAN A CHRISTIAN LIVE IN A MANNER THAT SHOWS HE WAS NEVER SAVED BE BROUGHT BACK??????
YOU CANT ANSWER THIS....oh yea, sorry you interpret caps as screaming, so ill revert back to lower case and use bold for emphasis.
Your gospel states God will save us knowing our heart. knowing our motives, and knowing everything we will do think or say from that time forward. then somehow get confused or fooled into not realising we were going to sin and take out gift back.
show one time i said any of this???? ONE just ONE or even showed were somthing I said implied it. I am calling you out...so answer.
When one becomes a Christian, if God says nope, this person will never change, or if he says "welcome" is not something I know nor you!
All we as men here know, is that we have teh Bible that tells us what to do. Yet if God chooses not to save someone, I dont know that, so I have no right to say, "they were never saved".
question:
If God does choose at the point of conversion if one is truly saved or not, what is his choice based on?
Repentance? hmmmm that would imply we mUST repent
Works? You do teach this, because you say one who has NO works has dead faith and is not saved.
So you believe since God knows our motives, thoughts, and what we will do, he does not save those who have NO works in their future.
Therefore you believe one MUST have a work to obtain salvation, or he was never really saved. Basing salvation on if he has a work or no works - Contradiction #2
Then how can you say works dont save, if it is by works we are really saved or not????
You just keep putting your foot in your mouth.
Can you answer this? In fact you dont have to answer anything else, just this one. Because you cant do it and remain consisent.
God is not fooled. And he tells us your gospel is evil, it sounds good because it condemns sin and requires us to stop sin, but it is with the wrong motives, your doing it to earn salvation,
question to EG that he is afraid to answer or acknowledge:
EG, is keeping God's commands (obedience) a work or the duty of a Christian?????????????????
Simple question, work or duty.
If a work, then explain Luke 17:10, Ecc 12:13
If a duty - then is fulfilling a duty "earning" anything, or doing what is expected?????
HE WILL NOT ANSWER THIS...i mean he will not answer this
which makes you no different than the very men who sent Christ to his death. If he was here today you would do the same thing they did, because he would reject your message.
as for me, I don;t stop sin because I want to earn Gods love, I do it because I am gratefull for what God did. I understand why he said no, for my beneifit. and he is my father and I love him and want to please him.
I guess you dont get your message is sin. Your promoting sin, and watering down the consequences, deceiving people with your devilish lies.
The fate of those who do this is sealed. Unless you repent. Which you can, and I hope with all my heart you do.
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