Once Saved Always Saved?

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zone

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I am. I have not sinned since my last confession. (Not to my priest, but to God). Therefore I have no unrepentant sin in my life rendering me sinless.
i see.
well that's wonderful.
tomorrow's another day.

and God's Law never changes.

i'm grateful the Lord taught us to pray daily for forgiveness.
take care.
zone.
 
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look it sounds bold but if you can do somthing to "get saved,earn your salvation" then you could thump christ on the nose and say "i didnt need you i saved myself",,,,,,,,,,,,,,,??????
dont sound like the gosphel though does it????????
The idea that someone could save themselves is indeed preposterous
 

zone

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Gentiles were never commanded to keep the law, but we are commanded to refrain from sin, and it is not our own righteousness that makes us able, but Christ is us, as we crucify our flesh
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don't you mean The Law was not given to the gentiles at Sinai?

what is sin? i thought it was transgression of the Law.

if break the Law, you are sinning. and one Law broken means you've broken them all.

goodnight
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i'm grateful the Lord taught us to pray daily for forgiveness.
take care.
zone.
Yes praying daily for forgiveness may not be a bad idea, but only necessary if you sin everyday. I seriously doubt that someone that continues in sin day, after day, after day, after day, is truly repentant. Therefore his pleas for forgiveness, as well as his professions of faith are mute.
 

zone

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Yes praying daily for forgiveness may not be a bad idea, but only necessary if you sin everyday. I seriously doubt that someone that continues in sin day, after day, after day, after day, is truly repentant. Therefore his pleas for forgiveness, as well as his professions of faith are mute.
did you love the Lord thy God with all your heart mind and strength today?
and your neighbour as yourself?

are you certain?

what about tomorrow?
if not, you have fallen short, and broken all the Law.
 
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don't you mean The Law was not given to the gentiles at Sinai?

what is sin? i thought it was transgression of the Law.

if break the Law, you are sinning. and one Law broken means you've broken them all.

goodnight
zone.
God is the God of the Israel, and the nations. If a Jew abandons the law when he gets saved then he assemilates himself into the nations, and God is no longer the God of Israel. On the flip side, if a Gentile must become a Judaizer keeping the law on top of receiving Christ to be saved, then God is no longer the God of the nation, but only of Israel. We know there is no Jew or greek, male or female, bond or free in Christ, but that does not mean that we are not either male or female. And a Jew becoming a Gentile or a Gentile becoming a Jew is just as unnatural of a man or woman having a sex change.

That being said, is sin permissible? as Paul would say ''God forbid'', literally, God forbids it
 
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did you love the Lord thy God with all your heart mind and strength today?
Yes
and your neighbour as yourself?
Yes

are you certain?
Yes

what about tomorrow?
Yes, love is a decision that we make for a lifetime, it is not a emotion. Just as I have chosen to love my wife for the rest of my life until death do us part, and have decided to love Jesus, and therefore my neighbor. This is commitment I have made, a blood covenant I have entered into with Christ. I dare not break it.
 

iamsoandso

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lets go further ,,,,,,,,,,"anti-christ" anti,,,is in replacement of,,,,,or against,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,christ,,,,,,,,,," the saviour",,,,,,,,,,,,,
"anti",,,,,,,,,,,in replacement of you saving me,,,,,,,,im gonna figure out somthing to do,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,"christ" and save my own self,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,becouse im "anti-christ",,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,"im thumping you on the nose" and saving myself,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,becouse i denie that you did.......... and thats why all my works and worries are to try to get saved when you say you saved me ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,thanks anyway "mesiah",,,,,,,,,dear me "the anti-christ"
 

iamsoandso

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"and there are many antichrist among us even now" that is since they did not believe that christ had saved them they set about to save themselves
 

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believe no man lest he say "christ crucified" ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,crucified ,,,,,,,past tense words,,,,,,,,,,,,, he saved you at the cross, not in 2011
 

iamsoandso

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"once i was dead and could not stand before go,and then i was born on the cross at calvery"
 

iamsoandso

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"d',,,,,,,,,,i tried to send just the "d" but it wouldnt let me????????
 

iamsoandso

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ive not come to calling myself names ,,,,,,,,,,,,im just me
 

iamsoandso

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the kingdom of heaven is in your heart,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,some are in it and some are in torment
 
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from reading these posts, sounds like zone is trying to justify her own sin