To the first line - yes, I understood that and notuptome's post that your posted to was written for SeaBass - is what I meant. Not meaning to confuse here.
I agree with what you've written here. My reason for applying those verses from Acts 10 was that I do believe that they would not have 'received the Holy Spirit' [vs 47] unless they were saved at that time and then they were baptized in water after receiving His Spirit. God knew these folks "got it" as He even cut off Peter's sermon to finish the work Himself, so that HE got the Glory and not Peter. I think in His Word - He doesn't stay in 'our box' but will do things differently for very good reasons.
Let me just throw this out there about those that teach OSAS from the "election" point of view - my only answer is - We are "elect according to the 'foreknowledge' of God", Peter said --- in that God "forknew" who would remain faithful unto the end - so yes, in that case - if God "forknew" who would continue in obedience to His Word by faith until their life ends or repents and are restored - then yes, the elect are OSAS - but only He knows who those are because we're all still alive. Could be why I've appreciated Phil 3 as much as I do and see it in Paul's writings elsewhere, besides in vs 3:11.
I do believe that a person can fall away and that we're seeing that apostasy in these last 3 decades especially.
Thank you for the reply, Brother!
I agree with what you've written here. My reason for applying those verses from Acts 10 was that I do believe that they would not have 'received the Holy Spirit' [vs 47] unless they were saved at that time and then they were baptized in water after receiving His Spirit. God knew these folks "got it" as He even cut off Peter's sermon to finish the work Himself, so that HE got the Glory and not Peter. I think in His Word - He doesn't stay in 'our box' but will do things differently for very good reasons.
Let me just throw this out there about those that teach OSAS from the "election" point of view - my only answer is - We are "elect according to the 'foreknowledge' of God", Peter said --- in that God "forknew" who would remain faithful unto the end - so yes, in that case - if God "forknew" who would continue in obedience to His Word by faith until their life ends or repents and are restored - then yes, the elect are OSAS - but only He knows who those are because we're all still alive. Could be why I've appreciated Phil 3 as much as I do and see it in Paul's writings elsewhere, besides in vs 3:11.
I do believe that a person can fall away and that we're seeing that apostasy in these last 3 decades especially.
Thank you for the reply, Brother!
If you believe that salvation is a one time event and that when Cornelius received the Holy Spirit he was saved, how do you address the fact that his sins had not yet been remitted. Sins are remitted in Water Baptism, so if Cornelius was saved at that point he still had unremitted sins, how do you address that?
Regarding your second point about the elect, I don't hold to either the typical Arminian view, that God looked down through the corridors of time to see who would remain faithful, nor do I accept the Calvinist position that God chose individuals to be saved or lost. I don't believe either of those view can be supported by the Scriptures. However, I do believe the view I hold can be supported by the Scriptures. My view is that God chose to save those who would believe.
I believe the Calvinist and Arminian view are based in a misunderstanding of Ephesian 1. The passage in question is,
4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: 5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, (Eph 1:1 KJV)
It is my contention here that this passage is not speaking of Christians or individuals but rather of the Jewish People. God chose the Jews because He had made certain promises to Abraham. I can back this up from Scripture but it is a bit lengthy. If you'd like me to present more just let me know.