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For if we have been united with him in a death like his.....like what?.....We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death......It does not say we were buried with him by spirit into death....does this sound right to you?....Do you not know that all of us who have been spirit baptized into Christ Jesus were spirit baptized into his death?
I post a scripture straight from the bible I made no comment....Paul is saying very clearly This is not from God it is my advice...so don't go saying I said that God said.....and you know what? that is exactly what people are doing. Now you are asking me if I am saying what Paul said was not from God. Tell me how did you conclude that from that piece of scripture? Did not Paul say it
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Having the Spirit of God is one thing .....saying God said when He didn't say is another...that is why Paul made it clear...can't you see that. There are people today with no respect for God saying God told me this and God told me thus...when in fact God did not say anything. As believers God gives us wisdom and we can give good advice...but that does not mean we have the authority to say God said it......
1. by Christ's death on the cross, the last shedding of blood for forgiveness is done. if one believes this then they are justified.
Justified= just as if you never sinned upon belief
2, Sanctified= the removal of any thought of sin, that so easily besets you and all thee people
3. God himself does this after one is Justified, that sanctifying begins we get shown this, even as we are already sanctified by God's finished work for us at the cross, no other way but by the finished work of Christ at the cross for us. Death for us is justification for us as if we never sinned. The resurrected Christ for us is the sanctification, where we are revealed this new life in Spirit and truth by Father, who came to live in you the day you first believed
For Father is the teacher, not me not you not anyone else
Love you deeper than you apparently see
Ephesians 3:16-18Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)[SUP]16 [/SUP]that he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man; [SUP]17 [/SUP]that Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love, [SUP]18 [/SUP]may be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;
Justified= just as if you never sinned upon belief
2, Sanctified= the removal of any thought of sin, that so easily besets you and all thee people
3. God himself does this after one is Justified, that sanctifying begins we get shown this, even as we are already sanctified by God's finished work for us at the cross, no other way but by the finished work of Christ at the cross for us. Death for us is justification for us as if we never sinned. The resurrected Christ for us is the sanctification, where we are revealed this new life in Spirit and truth by Father, who came to live in you the day you first believed
For Father is the teacher, not me not you not anyone else
Love you deeper than you apparently see
Ephesians 3:16-18Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)[SUP]16 [/SUP]that he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man; [SUP]17 [/SUP]that Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love, [SUP]18 [/SUP]may be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;
