Our God is a loving God?

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iliveforHim

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hmmmm....very good, Aspen, you give me food for thought... :)
 
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oopsies

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JayJ said:
Doesn't matter if I believe or not I think I have blasphemed the Holy Spirit which God WILL NEVER FORGIVE.
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JayJ, people on the forum has already replied to your concern in a different thread you started...
 
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JayJ said:
No, all I said was once when I was praying to God was "I may have involved your precious Holy Spirit in a joke please forgive me if I have" what I said there is blasphemy is it not? To say that I could have involved the Holy Spirit in a joke is blasphemy yes?
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Boy, you are really having to walk on eggshells around your god, aren't you?

No wonder Dawkin compares Christianity to an abusive spousal relationship. Why would anyone want to be in relationship with a god like that?

God may be perfect, but His public relations department STINKS.

The unforgivable sin is not admitting your transgressions, like Adam and Eve in the Garden.
 
Nuhen

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JayJ said:
No one would choose hell over Heaven most christians just like to cover it up as a pleasantry and say "they chose hell" instead of just saying it how it is, they didn't read a book God wrote and didn't obey what He told them to do so God threw them into the lake of fire forever.
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I already addressed this, but that's not true. Lots of people choose hell over heaven. Some of my closest friends have even said heaven doesn't sound like any fun, and "all my friends will be in hell".
 
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greatkraw

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iliveforHim said:
hell is a place where there is no emotional, physical, spiritual or mental connection to God...many people on this earth are already living in "hell" because they don't know how to feel the greatest love that God gives, nor how to give that love in return.
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not bad :)
 
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machew

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JayJ said:
What if you choose Jesus but have previously blasphemed against the Holy Spirit or blasphemed against Him after becoming a christian?
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I can tell you haven't because if you did, you wouldn't care at all that you did. Those who are capable of blasphemy of the Holy Spirit are those who have no remorse for it what so ever.
 
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machew said:
I can tell you haven't because if you did, you wouldn't care at all that you did. Those who are capable of blasphemy of the Holy Spirit are those who have no remorse for it what so ever.
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Where does it say that in the Bible?
 
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NoahsMom

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You have the Bible as your guide, thats your instruction how to live your life according to the way God sees fit. God doesnt send anyone to hell, if anything you send yourself based on the choices YOU make in your lifetime. Your parents give you rules to live by growin up , you knew as a kid if you did stuff you were specifically told not to do, you had consequences. You could either , A. Do what your told and its all good. B. disobey-get your priveledges took, or a whack on the behind. While God controls everything, wouldnt you want someone to love you because they choose it? Rather than because you made em? He wants us all to come to him with a pure love, because we WANT to serve, so i dont buy into the whole he chooses who gets to serve him and who dont bit. Im sure if he had his way we all would, its what he died for, so we could all have that choice of servin him and havin our sins forgiven, Im sure he also knows even tho all are given that oppertunity, not all will accept, and im sure it breaks his heart, given thats not what he wanted for us.So, yea I feel hes a very loving God, more than I ever deserved. The bible is pretty clear, love thy neighbor as thyself, love your lord God with all your heart mind and soul, you do these things, and humbly seek God, its all gonna fall into place. You CHOOSE to love the world above him, neglect his word, then like a kid growin up, you pay the consequences.
 
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machew

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The same passage where you read about the unforgivable sin.
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If you look at Matthew 12:31-32 in context with the surrounding verses, you will find that Jesus immediately before talking about blasphemy of the Holy Spirit was talking about how the Pharisees were claiming the work of the Holy Spirit to be the work of the devil/evil spirits. In addition the Pharisees were also telling other people that the work of the Holy Spirit was the work of the devil. Essentially they are calling the Spirit of God an evil spirit in order to control the crowd(selfish ambition). By looking at the surrounding context alone you can deduce what Jesus is referring to about blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.

Romans 1:28-32 describes the condition of the Pharisees in regard to them seeking the approval of man at the expense of calling the Holy Spirit evil. Romans 1:18 sets the context for verses 28-32. The Pharisees knew that Jesus was doing signs and wonders that could only be attributed to God. But they made a conscious decision to ignore the signs and wonders Jesus performed and cling to their control over the people. (John 11:47-48)

So, Romans 1:28 describes the condition of the person that blasphemies the Holy Spirit. This definitely does not describe you, therefore you have not blasphemed the Holy Spirit.

Blessings,

Machew
 
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machew

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machew said:
If you look at Matthew 12:31-32 in context with the surrounding verses, you will find that Jesus immediately before talking about blasphemy of the Holy Spirit was talking about how the Pharisees were claiming the work of the Holy Spirit to be the work of the devil/evil spirits. In addition the Pharisees were also telling other people that the work of the Holy Spirit was the work of the devil. Essentially they are calling the Spirit of God an evil spirit in order to control the crowd(selfish ambition). By looking at the surrounding context alone you can deduce what Jesus is referring to about blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.

Romans 1:28-32 describes the condition of the Pharisees in regard to them seeking the approval of man at the expense of calling the Holy Spirit evil. Romans 1:18 sets the context for verses 28-32. The Pharisees knew that Jesus was doing signs and wonders that could only be attributed to God. But they made a conscious decision to ignore the signs and wonders Jesus performed and cling to their control over the people. (John 11:47-48)

So, Romans 1:28 describes the condition of the person that blasphemies the Holy Spirit. This definitely does not describe you, therefore you have not blasphemed the Holy Spirit.

Blessings,

Machew
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For some reason I quoted oopsie, I meant to quote JayJ. This post is in response to JayJ.
 
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forgivenandloved

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JayJ said:
Burning people for eternity in Hell? I would never be able to do something so horrible to even the worst of my enemies, why does God do this to the majority of the human race? By that I mean send them to Hell and please no "they choose hell" garbage God controls all WE DO NOT CONTROL HIM.
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1. It's call free will; God's not making us reject his Son
2. He's very loving because none of us even deserve the chance of going to heaven
3. It's something you have to experience once you truly experience God's love it's so amazing and you'll never want to leave him
 
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Well Noah'sMom my parents were not strictly religious they did not teach me about religion or christianity I was never told not to do this or that I did what I have done out of ignorance and poor upbringing not all of us have the privilege of being brought up in a nice christian home like you. I grew up around gangs violence disrespect and depravity. I vandalized stole and hurt people because I didn't know any better so if God punishes people who are ignorant He sure is NOT fair at all. You exault yourself you do that I do not care if your God picks those who had a good upbringing and strict discipline over poorly educated/raised kids --removed---. I do not think a good God would do this.
 
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machew

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JayJ said:
Well Noah'sMom my parents were not strictly religious they did not teach me about religion or christianity I was never told not to do this or that I did what I have done out of ignorance and poor upbringing not all of us have the privilege of being brought up in a nice christian home like you. I grew up around gangs violence disrespect and depravity. I vandalized stole and hurt people because I didn't know any better so if God punishes people who are ignorant He sure is NOT fair at all. You exault yourself you do that I do not care if your God picks those who had a good upbringing and strict discipline over poorly educated/raised kids --removed-- I do not think a good God would do this.
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JayJ:

I answered your question above about scripture showing that you have not blasphemed the Holy Spirit. You feel as if God has punished you when He hasn't. The devil is after you to keep you away from God. That is the enemy's purpose in your life right now, to convince you that you can't approach the God who Loves you.

If you look at Matthew 12:31-32 in context with the surrounding verses, you will find that Jesus immediately before talking about blasphemy of the Holy Spirit was talking about how the Pharisees were claiming the work of the Holy Spirit to be the work of the devil/evil spirits. In addition the Pharisees were also telling other people that the work of the Holy Spirit was the work of the devil. Essentially they are calling the Spirit of God an evil spirit in order to control the crowd(selfish ambition). By looking at the surrounding context alone you can deduce what Jesus is referring to about blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.

Romans 1:28-32 describes the condition of the Pharisees in regard to them seeking the approval of man at the expense of calling the Holy Spirit evil. Romans 1:18 sets the context for verses 28-32. The Pharisees knew that Jesus was doing signs and wonders that could only be attributed to God. But they made a conscious decision to ignore the signs and wonders Jesus performed and cling to their control over the people. (John 11:47-48)

So, Romans 1:28 describes the condition of the person that blasphemies the Holy Spirit. This definitely does not describe you, therefore you have not blasphemed the Holy Spirit.

Blessings,

Machew
 
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JayJ

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Hmm but Jesus did NOT say that was the only form of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit did He?
 
Nuhen

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JayJ said:
Well Noah'sMom my parents were not strictly religious they did not teach me about religion or christianity I was never told not to do this or that I did what I have done out of ignorance and poor upbringing not all of us have the privilege of being brought up in a nice christian home like you. I grew up around gangs violence disrespect and depravity. I vandalized stole and hurt people because I didn't know any better so if God punishes people who are ignorant He sure is NOT fair at all. You exault yourself you do that I do not care if your God picks those who had a good upbringing and strict discipline over poorly educated/raised kids --removed-- I do not think a good God would do this.
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For the record, even growing up in a Christian home doesn't guarantee you'll follow Christianity. I was raised in a Christian home and converted to Judaism. Obviously growing up in a Christian home had no effect on my future.

Ultimately, YOU choose your future. You can choose to stay in that state of ignorance and depravity, you can choose to continue vandalizing and stealing and hurting people, or you can choose to rise above it and be something better.

But don't blame your upbringing, because you make the choice.
 
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JayJ

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Nuhen said:
For the record, even growing up in a Christian home doesn't guarantee you'll follow Christianity. I was raised in a Christian home and converted to Judaism. Obviously growing up in a Christian home had no effect on my future.

Ultimately, YOU choose your future. You can choose to stay in that state of ignorance and depravity, you can choose to continue vandalizing and stealing and hurting people, or you can choose to rise above it and be something better.

But don't blame your upbringing, because you make the choice.
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Sure kid lecture me when you're a bit older please. I got some years on you buddy.
 
Nuhen

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JayJ said:
Sure kid lecture me when you're a bit older please. I got some years on you buddy.
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Three is hardly a large number. Besides that, age doesn't matter, what matters is the content of the message. I'm only trying to help you, but if you want to reject it because you have some kind of age superiority complex, fine by me. But it'll always be sitting right there, unless this thread is deleted.
 
loveschild

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Free will... Its up to the people if they go to hell or not. Free will God gave free will. Love me or not God gives that freedom. The word says all will be told about God. The word also says to pray for people. A Christian should be praying all the time that people will repent and turn to the Lord. Are you praying so people don't go to hell that is very important. Are you trying to tell people about God? God doesn't want people to go to hell. Hell was made for satan and his demons not for people. God cries very hard that people will go to hell. He expects us to do all we can so people won't o to hell. When we stand before the Lord will he show us people who went to hell because we didn't pray or talk to them?
 
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