Passover/Unleavened Countdown . . .For Those Who Celebrate Them

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Thanks for sharing the encouragement. There is a tremendous blessing in celebrating these feasts, because as you said, they are from God himself, not man-made attempts.

Now we get to look forward to 7 days of "un-sinful" bread, which is truly Jesus himself!

Don't forget everyone, to eat some unleavened bread today, and more importantly, partake of the true bread of life today!
are the feasts a shadow of events future to us?
 

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Sukkot is. The other ones will be celebrated, but as far as I can tell, Sukkot is the only one you could say is a shadow of the future.
 
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The other ones will be celebrated
please back that up with scripture. not long fulfilled stuff:

"And it shall come to pass that everyone who is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the Feast of Tabernacles" (Zechariah 14:16).

but as far as I can tell, Sukkot is the only one you could say is a shadow of the future.
in what way? sukkot was a remembrance of the exodus from slavery. the typology for us through Christ and slavery to sin is obvious.

we also have a direct application to Christ himself here:

John 1:14
And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth"

when the people settled in the land, sukkot was known as the feast of ingathering, and the season of our rejoicing. Sukkot was one of three festivals when every adult male was required to come to the temple in Jerusalem.

so, we already have a problem. most seriously, however, for those claiming to keep this feast today: at sukkot, 70 bulls, 14 rams, and 98 lambs were sacrificed.

anyway, the people were commanded to rejoice: in Jerusalem. levitical priests made music.

on the 7th day of sukkot a priest carried a golden pitcher to the pool of Siloam at the temple mount, where it was filled with living or moving water, and carried back to the temple. the water was poured into a silver basin beside the altar and the priest prayed that the Lord would send rain. PENTECOST

with me so far....wasn`t Jerusalem filled with the ingathered from the diaspora...yes.

John 7
“Now on the last day, the great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried out, saying, “If any man is thirsty, let him come to Me and drink. He who believes in Me, as the Scripture said, ‘From his innermost being shall flow streams of living water.’ ” But this He spoke of the Spirit, whom those who believed in Him were to receive; for the Spirit was not yet given, because Jesus was not yet glorified.”

since God had departed the temple long ago due to their sin, what did we have here, but God dwelling (tabernacle) with them in Person. and he announced it the very day of that feast.

John 1:14
And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth"

Emmanuel.

how on earth can anyone say Jesus Christ Emmanuel who tabernacled with man, then SENT God the holy spirit as the living waters from the pool of SENT is not the fulfillment of sukkot.

i dont know. perhaps you have more information.
 
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Sukkot... according to what I read in the Bible is past, present, and future.

The “Feast of Tabernacles” received its name according to the statute recorded in Leviticus 23:41-43. “And ye shall keep it a feast unto the LORD seven days in the year. It shall be a statute for ever in your generations: ye shall celebrate it in the seventh month. Ye shall dwell in booths seven days; all that are Israelites born shall dwell in *booths: That your generations may know that I made the children of Israel to dwell in booths, when I brought them out of the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.”

Comparing Leviticus 23:33-35 the previous three verses, according to Strong’s Concordance number 5521 “tabernacles” and “booths” are the same Hebrew word “cukkah.” “And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, The fifteenth day of this seventh month shall be the feast of tabernacles for seven days unto the LORD.On the first day shall be an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.”


By the prophet Haggai, in chapter 2:6-9, “thus saith the LORD of hosts; Yet once, it is a little while, and I will shake the heavens, and the earth, and the sea, and the dry land; And I will shake all nations, and the desire of all nations shall come: and I will fill this house with glory, saith the LORD of hosts. The silver is mine, and the gold is mine, saith the LORD of hosts. The glory of this latter house shall be greater than of the former, saith the LORD of hosts: and in this place will I give peace, saith the LORD of hosts.”

And then Zechariah (chapter 14:16-18 speaks up and says; “it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles. And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain. And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.”

The last day of Sukkot is on the 21st day of the 7th month. Pentecost is in the 3rd month. It is the end of the feast of weeks.
 
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God told Israel to celebrate all of the Feasts forever, including Sukkot.

Sukkot remembers God dwelling with Israel in temporary dwellings.
Jesus dwells with us today in temporary dwellings (our bodies).
Some day, He will dwell with us permanently.
 
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This teaching of feasts is new to me, and i do want to be in communion with the Family of Jesus celebrating the days He celebrates and recognizing.
 

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This teaching of feasts is new to me, and i do want to be in communion with the Family of Jesus celebrating the days He celebrates and recognizing.
Did you do anything for Passover this year? Are you familiar with the Feast of Unleavened Bread?
 
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Sukkot... according to what I read in the Bible is past, present, and future.


And then Zechariah (chapter 14:16-18 speaks up and says; “it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles. And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain. And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.”
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why are you people so afraid to really dig in and see this was fulfilled at the return of exiles. X goes ones of your proof texts.

go to the passages concerning eternity. theres no temple no moon or sun. and no plagues. no death of anything including animals you want to sacrifice. disgraceful.

STUDY!
 
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This teaching of feasts is new to me, and i do want to be in communion with the Family of Jesus celebrating the days He celebrates and recognizing.
can you show a single passage where Jesus is currently celebrating passover.
He IS our Passover.

anyway, the division here is so pronounced. seduction. a little leaven here and there and soon....some other religion and rabbis will be the teachers. teaching circumcision. and the people said AMEN everything the Lord has commanded WE WILL DO.
 
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i've heard of the feast of unleavened bread, but never looked into it KohenMatt.
 
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one thing i won't do is eat lamb, and if someone says i must to be in the celebration, that will tell me its not for me.
 

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one thing i won't do is eat lamb, and if someone says i must to be in the celebration, that will tell me its not for me.
Don't worry, Don. Lamb isn't a requirement for Passover. As you read, you'll find that Passover remembrance doesn't come with a lot of requirements. As Christians saved by grace, we know who our "Passover lamb" really is. A Passover dinner is remembering and celebrating God's deliverance of the Israelites, and our deliverance as well. We are not required to do anything, so no lamb is required.

i've heard of the feast of unleavened bread, but never looked into it KohenMatt.
The Feast of Unleavened Bread is for 7 days following Passover. Because the Israelites were called out of Egypt immediately after Passover, they didn't have time to let their yeast rise while they began their Exodus. So they ate unleavened bread for a time. Jesus refers to the "yeast of the Pharisees" as their sin and self-righteousness. If Jesus truly is the Bread of Life and is without sin, He is our "unleavened bread". So during this feast, we don't eat anything with yeast in it to remember God's call for us to remove sin from our life. The instruction is also to eat unleavened bread everyday, so we partake of the Bread of life that is without sin, everyday.

All of these feasts, and much of the law as well, is meant to provide constant reminders for God's people of how to live in the presence of a holy God. These feasts are a time of great celebration for those who have a heart to do them.

Let me know if you have any other questions on these things. I'm happy to help.

Peace,
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why are you people so afraid to really dig in and see this was fulfilled at the return of exiles. X goes ones of your proof texts.

go to the passages concerning eternity. theres no temple no moon or sun. and no plagues. no death of anything including animals you want to sacrifice. disgraceful.

STUDY!
I have studied, and Zechariah 14:16-18 is prophecy. "every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem." Not just some, but all the nations of the world. If you want to know more, just ask. If not, keep up your contest.
 
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I have studied, and Zechariah 14:16-18 is prophecy. "every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem." Not just some, but all the nations of the world. If you want to know more, just ask. If not, keep up your contest.
sorry mate. just so wrong on so many levels. why did you have to insert all the nations of the world. it doesnt say that. does it.

no contest. you are just...well, wrong. and teaching false doctrine. pretty serious stuff. but you have a choice to swallow your pride and find out the truth.

heres a study tip. dont just use word searches. READ IT ALL. in context. match zechariah to the other prophets - his contemporaries. find out what was happening at that time. it was before Jesus appeared. see, i did all the work for you.

if you do dig in, get back to me about what a neat discovery it was to find out you now get it.
 
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can you show a single passage where Jesus is currently celebrating passover.
He IS our Passover.

anyway, the division here is so pronounced. seduction. a little leaven here and there and soon....some other religion and rabbis will be the teachers. teaching circumcision. and the people said AMEN everything the Lord has commanded WE WILL DO.
When a person keeps bringing up circumcision, constantly referring to physical we all can clearly see it's not an argument against the law that God has spoken, it's an argument against what a person refuses to accept in what God has ever spoken. It's a doctrinal issue that has become distorted during the last several 100 years. Is there something that you don't understand about these next scriptures?

Deuteronomy 10:16 Circumcise therefore the foreskin of your heart, and be no more stiffnecked .

Colossians 2:11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:

Galatians 6:15 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.

There is no contradiction in these three verses. Can't you see that?

Revelation 19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

I think the Passover still applies
 
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When a person keeps bringing up circumcision, constantly referring to physical we all can clearly see it's not an argument against the law that God has spoken, it's an argument against what a person refuses to accept in what God has ever spoken. It's a doctrinal issue that has become distorted during the last several 100 years. Is there something that you don't understand about these next scriptures?

Deuteronomy 10:16 Circumcise therefore the foreskin of your heart, and be no more stiffnecked .

Colossians 2:11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:

Galatians 6:15 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.

There is no contradiction in these three verses. Can't you see that?

Revelation 19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

I think the Passover still applies
another tip for you. circumcision is used to describe jews AND their insistence on the law of moses.
it appears to be you who think the jews were just some physical pawn God used to teach spiritual truths. i dont know. your study method suggests it.

i have a good idea though. do you want some help with this:

sorry mate. just so wrong on so many levels. why did you have to insert all the nations of the world. it doesnt say that. does it.

no contest. you are just...well, wrong. and teaching false doctrine. pretty serious stuff. but you have a choice to swallow your pride and find out the truth.

heres a study tip. dont just use word searches. READ IT ALL. in context. match zechariah to the other prophets - his contemporaries. find out what was happening at that time. it was before Jesus appeared. see, i did all the work for you.

if you do dig in, get back to me about what a neat discovery it was to find out you now get it.
guaranteed to bring it all into focus for you. just ask.
 
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God told Israel to celebrate all of the Feasts forever, including Sukkot.

Sukkot remembers God dwelling with Israel in temporary dwellings.
Jesus dwells with us today in temporary dwellings (our bodies).
Some day, He will dwell with us permanently.
Christians usually have no problem with holidays given by their government despite how obsolete how fulfilled they are, Independence Day in USA for example. But when it comes to God's feast days it's a totally different ball game.
Not sure if those Christians who are against the biblical feasts have ever wondered why they act like that.
 
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when it comes to God's feast days it's a totally different ball game.
thou hypocrite! you dont obey those laws at all.
Jerusalem my friend. and bulls and lambs too.
different ball game alright. you would have been stoned to death for your profaning those feasts. thankfully, the law came through moses, but grace and truth came through jesus Christ.
 
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Zechariah 12:2-3
2 Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem. 3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces , though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

Zechariah 14:16-18
16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles. 17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain. 18 And if the family of Egypt go not up , and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

Then explain to me how prophecy says Israel will be in the last days.

The phrase "all the nations of the world" applies.

Read Ezekiel chapters 38 and 39, and see if this matches. It will take some time, so I'm sure I won't hear much from you until you are done reading. If I hear from you soon, I will know that you are ingrained in your opinion rather than seeing what these prophets say about the end time we are now living in.
the end time we are now living in....lol. where`s the temple. how do all the nations cram into jerusalem. geta grip. that was fufulilled with the exiles. do the work yourself, false teacher. i offered to help, and that stands if you humble yourself.

tidy summary for your audience though - just look at the psychology in that! .
it won`t take long for me to reply because i know what zechariah is about.. sadly you dont understand the subject, context or period.

but guys like you just love to pluck one passages out of ancient fulfilled books and make a mockery of all God perfomed in Christ Jesus. you dont even know what in that day means. OH! its gotta be in our future.

fill your boots. done here (unless you get small and stop thinking more highly of yourself than you ought).
arrogant american self-taught `prophecy`teachers.

send a PM if you want to answers.