Passover/Unleavened Countdown . . .For Those Who Celebrate Them

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Luk 22:8 And he sent Peter and John, saying, Go and prepare us the passover, that we may eat.
Luk 22:9 And they said unto him, Where wilt thou that we prepare?
Luk 22:10 And he said unto them, Behold, when ye are entered into the city, there shall a man meet you, bearing a pitcher of water; follow him into the house where he entereth in.
Luk 22:11 And ye shall say unto the goodman of the house, The Master saith unto thee, Where is the guestchamber, where I shall eat the passover with my disciples?

Luk 22:15 And he said unto them, With desire I have desired to eat this passover with you before I suffer:
Luk 22:16 For I say unto you, I will not any more eat thereof, until it be fulfilled in the kingdom of God.
Luk 22:17 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and said, Take this, and divide it among yourselves:
Luk 22:18 For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come.
Luk 22:19 And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.
Luk 22:20 Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you.


Some people will fight against the very words of Christ to maintain their traditions. (Reminds me of Mark 7:7-9)



How do you deal with the above passages from Luke that plainly says it was to eat the Passover?

Since the only place in the entirety of scripture we find the phrase "the Lord's supper" is here...

1Co 11:20 When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's supper.

And it is preceded by the word "NOT". How about instead of challenging a doctrine that is established by scripture, please post scripture that says NOT to keep the Passover but rather Ishtar and the "Lord's supper."
You say you know the law yet you still do not understand. What did they need to do to prepare the room and what did they also need to get on that very day? Remember the Jews count the days from SUNSET TO SUNSET. It is really quite clear the last supper was NOT the Passover meal.
Mat 26:18 And he said, Go into the city to such a man, and say unto him, The Master saith, My time is at hand; I will keep the passover at thy house with my disciples.
Mat 26:19 And the disciples did as Jesus had appointed them; and they made ready the passover.
Mat 26:20 Now when the even was come, he sat down with the twelve.

Mar 14:14 And wheresoever he shall go in, say ye to the goodman of the house, The Master saith, Where is the guestchamber, where I shall eat the passover with my disciples?
Mar 14:15 And he will shew you a large upper room furnished and prepared: there make ready for us.
Mar 14:16 And his disciples went forth, and came into the city, and found as he had said unto them: and they made ready the passover.

Luk 22:8 And he sent Peter and John, saying, Go and prepare us the passover, that we may eat.
Luk 22:9 And they said unto him, Where wilt thou that we prepare?
Luk 22:10 And he said unto them, Behold, when ye are entered into the city, there shall a man meet you, bearing a pitcher of water; follow him into the house where he entereth in.
Luk 22:11 And ye shall say unto the goodman of the house, The Master saith unto thee, Where is the guestchamber, where I shall eat the passover with my disciples?

Luk 22:15 And he said unto them, With desire I have desired to eat this passover with you before I suffer:
Luk 22:16 For I say unto you, I will not any more eat thereof, until it be fulfilled in the kingdom of God.
Luk 22:17 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and said, Take this, and divide it among yourselves:
Luk 22:18 For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come.
Luk 22:19 And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.
Luk 22:20 Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you.

Just exactly what was it? Please explain to us why all these passages that call it the Passover are really wrong and should say something else. Christ instituted the New Testament Passover and called it "The Passover".

Now again, please post all the scriptures that say it was not the Passover, that we should not keep the Passover and that we should keep Ishtar with chocolate bunnies, colored eggs and a sunrise service facing the East and that we should keep "the Lord's supper".
 

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You say you know the law yet you still do not understand. What did they need to do to prepare the room and what did they also need to get on that very day? Remember the Jews count the days from SUNSET TO SUNSET. It is really quite clear the last supper was NOT the Passover meal.
It is not clear to me this was not the Passover. Is it clear to anyone else?
 
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I's not an easy thing I have found, to reprogram the brain about when the New year begins too. An interesting thing to note about the adversary, he doesn't want us to know what time it is! that makes me want to know all the more. If we trace back through history, it is not hard to find what the adversary hates the most, and it is most likely the things that God loves the most!:)

Forgot to include also, with my post about what the 4 cups represents:

6Wherefore say unto the children of Israel, I am the LORD, and I will bring you out from under the burdens of the Egyptians, and I will rid you out of their bondage, and I will redeem you with a stretched out arm, and with great judgments: 7And I will take you to me for a people, and I will be to you a God
I did a search on the four cups of Passover. I'm not certain if this is Mark Blitz because his name isn't mentioned in the video or description. But I found it to be amazing. I hope that it's ok to share here.

[video=youtube;kLeTK2EerRU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLeTK2EerRU[/video]

The four cups as spoken of in the video:

1. Cup of Sanctification, Represents Christ: A symbol of His blood and body. This Began with Abraham being set apart. Abram renamed Abraham.

2. Cup of telling forth and praise: This cup represents the people being freed from Egypt, and freedom. The final part of this cup is when Israel recognizes the Messiah. At that time, the real plagues of God’s wrath will be witnesses upon the earth.

3. Cup of blessing and redemption: The cup that believers take in communion with the Lord, and is taken after the main meal. Everyone present at Passover drank from the the cup.

Matthew 26:27 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it;
Matthew 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

4. Cup of Completion:
Matthew 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Here are some verses from the video, that go along with the verse you shared Karraster, that go along with the first cup, (Cup of sanctification) from throughout the bible.

The Passover began with the first cup, (Cup of Sanctification) or it could not begin.

Exodus 6:6 Wherefore say unto the children of Israel, I am the LORD, and I will bring you out from under the burdens of the Egyptians, and I will rid you out of their bondage, and I will redeem you with a stretched out arm, and with great judgments:
Exodus 6:7 And I will take you to me for a people, and I will be to you a God: and ye shall know that I am the LORD your God, which bringeth you out from under the burdens of the Egyptians.

2 Chronicles 30:1 And Hezekiah sent to all Israel and Judah, and wrote letters also to Ephraim and Manasseh, that they should come to the house of the LORD at Jerusalem, to keep the passover unto the LORD God of Israel.

Exodus 12:7 And they shall take of the blood, and strike it on the two side posts and on the upper door post of the houses, wherein they shall eat it.
Exodus 12:8 And they shall eat the flesh in that night, roast with fire, and unleavened bread; and with bitter herbs they shall eat it.

2 Chronicles 30:2 For the king had taken counsel, and his princes, and all the congregation in Jerusalem, to keep the passover in the second month.

2 Chronicles 30:3 For they could not keep it at that time, because the priests had not sanctified themselves sufficiently, neither had the people gathered themselves together to Jerusalem.

Ezra 6:20 For the priests and the Levites were purified together, all of them were pure, and killed the passover for all the children of the captivity, and for their brethren the priests, and for themselves.
Ezra 6:21 And the children of Israel, which were come again out of captivity, and all such as had separated themselves unto them from the filthiness of the heathen of the land, to seek the LORD God of Israel, did eat,


Mark 14:12 And the first day of unleavened bread, when they killed the passover, his disciples said unto him, Where wilt thou that we go and prepare that thou mayest eat the passover?

1 Corinthians 11:26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come.
1 Corinthians 11:27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.

1 Corinthians 11:28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.
 
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Matt 23:1 Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples, 2Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: 3All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.

This is one example of how the translators were not precise. (no I'm not bashing the translators for the umteenth time, but a mistake needs to be corrected)

The first bolded (they) should be (he) as in Moses said, then the verse is more clear, observe what Moses said, but not the added Rabbinical law, such as which shoe to put on first. Adhere to the weighty matters, and not how to wash your hands 3 times with a prayer stating almighty commanded such.

As far as Paul's writings, I like to give him benefit of doubt and not think he was a hypocrite, rather his letters were not translated at optimum. Nevertheless, Paul nor anyone else Trumps Almighty's Words, or His Son the Messiah Yeshua, which agrees with Father, every Word. I like Paul, but I do not worship Paul.

I hope everyone has a blessed Passover Seder! Honor the day and count your blessings!:)
 
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Mat 26:18 And he said, Go into the city to such a man, and say unto him, The Master saith, My time is at hand; I will keep the passover at thy house with my disciples.
Mat 26:19 And the disciples did as Jesus had appointed them; and they made ready the passover.
Mat 26:20 Now when the even was come, he sat down with the twelve.

Mar 14:14 And wheresoever he shall go in, say ye to the goodman of the house, The Master saith, Where is the guestchamber, where I shall eat the passover with my disciples?
Mar 14:15 And he will shew you a large upper room furnished and prepared: there make ready for us.
Mar 14:16 And his disciples went forth, and came into the city, and found as he had said unto them: and they made ready the passover.

Luk 22:8 And he sent Peter and John, saying, Go and prepare us the passover, that we may eat.
Luk 22:9 And they said unto him, Where wilt thou that we prepare?
Luk 22:10 And he said unto them, Behold, when ye are entered into the city, there shall a man meet you, bearing a pitcher of water; follow him into the house where he entereth in.
Luk 22:11 And ye shall say unto the goodman of the house, The Master saith unto thee, Where is the guestchamber, where I shall eat the passover with my disciples?

Luk 22:15 And he said unto them, With desire I have desired to eat this passover with you before I suffer:
Luk 22:16 For I say unto you, I will not any more eat thereof, until it be fulfilled in the kingdom of God.
Luk 22:17 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and said, Take this, and divide it among yourselves:
Luk 22:18 For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come.
Luk 22:19 And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.
Luk 22:20 Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you.

Just exactly what was it? Please explain to us why all these passages that call it the Passover are really wrong and should say something else. Christ instituted the New Testament Passover and called it "The Passover".

Now again, please post all the scriptures that say it was not the Passover, that we should not keep the Passover and that we should keep Ishtar with chocolate bunnies, colored eggs and a sunrise service facing the East and that we should keep "the Lord's supper".

Go back and add the verses you keep taking out. They tell you the DAY that this all took place and it WAS NOT the Passover.
 

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Go back and add the verses you keep taking out. They tell you the DAY that this all took place and it WAS NOT the Passover.
Sure it was, it was the evening of the Passover...

Lev 23:5 In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD'S passover.
Lev 23:6 And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the LORD: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread.

Christ and the disciples kept the Passover on the evening of the fourteenth. He was betrayed that night and crucified the next day, the daytime portion of the Passover. His body had to be taken down before sunset because at sunset began the high day known as the First Day of Unleavened Bread. (note the Passover is not a holy convocation, but the next day, the 1st DUB is).

Joh 19:30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.
Joh 19:31 The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.

Now, how about those scriptures that tell us not to keep the Passover, but rather to keep Ishtar and "the Lord's supper"?
 
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Matt 23:1 Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples, 2Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: 3All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.

This is one example of how the translators were not precise. (no I'm not bashing the translators for the umteenth time, but a mistake needs to be corrected)

The first bolded (they) should be (he) as in Moses said, then the verse is more clear, observe what Moses said, but not the added Rabbinical law, such as which shoe to put on first. Adhere to the weighty matters, and not how to wash your hands 3 times with a prayer stating almighty commanded such.

As far as Paul's writings, I like to give him benefit of doubt and not think he was a hypocrite, rather his letters were not translated at optimum. Nevertheless, Paul nor anyone else Trumps Almighty's Words, or His Son the Messiah Yeshua, which agrees with Father, every Word. I like Paul, but I do not worship Paul.

I hope everyone has a blessed Passover Seder! Honor the day and count your blessings!:)
Good point that you make

John 7:19
Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law? Why go ye about to kill me?
 

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Go back and add the verses you keep taking out. They tell you the DAY that this all took place and it WAS NOT the Passover.
Luk 22:8 And he sent Peter and John, saying, Go and prepare us the passover, that we may eat.
Luk 22:9 And they said unto him, Where wilt thou that we prepare?
Luk 22:10 And he said unto them, Behold, when ye are entered into the city, there shall a man meet you, bearing a pitcher of water; follow him into the house where he entereth in.
Luk 22:11 And ye shall say unto the goodman of the house, The Master saith unto thee, Where is the guestchamber, where I shall eat the passover with my disciples?
Luk 22:12 And he shall shew you a large upper room furnished: there make ready.
Luk 22:13 And they went, and found as he had said unto them: and they made ready the passover.
Luk 22:14 And when the hour was come, he sat down, and the twelve apostles with him.
Luk 22:15 And he said unto them, With desire I have desired to eat this passover with you before I suffer:
Luk 22:16 For I say unto you, I will not any more eat thereof, until it be fulfilled in the kingdom of God.
Luk 22:17 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and said, Take this, and divide it among yourselves:
Luk 22:18 For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come.
Luk 22:19 And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.
Luk 22:20 Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you.
Luk 22:21 But, behold, the hand of him that betrayeth me is with me on the table.

OK, now show me where it says this is not the Passover.
 
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I like to make bread from scratch and let me tellya I think yeast makes the bread, smell and taste better. But I just cant knead the dough and bake it. I have to take the time to let it rise. Which in Israel's case would have most likely cost the life of the one who stayed back waiting for the bread to rise. He or she would have truely been cut off from the rest of Israel.

just my .2 cents.


Have a wonderful Feast as we remember what the outstreched arm and mighty hand of Yehovah has done.
I make my own bread too but I believe the yeast was more about the spiritual aspect than physical for the Israelites at that point in time. Did they not learn about "Exodus" ahead of time? Didn't they have ample time preparing "normal" bread while they roasted the lamb?
On a side note, do you get rid of baking soda at home? It's difficult for me as it's one of the ingredients for my self made medication to fight allergies.
 
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Good point that you make

John 7:19
Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law? Why go ye about to kill me?
Because by reminding them of the law He brought much inconvenience to their life?
 

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Just in case that is not enough for you...

Deu 16:16 Three times in a year shall all thy males appear before the LORD thy God in the place which he shall choose; in the feast of unleavened bread, and in the feast of weeks, and in the feast of tabernacles: and they shall not appear before the LORD empty:

There are three, count 'em, three Feast seasons in the year. The details are given in Lev 23...

Unleavened Bread which includes the Passover and the Wave Sheaf (Lev 23:5-14)

Pentecost {the Feast of Weeks (Lev 23:15-22) which is nameed such because one counts seven weeks from the Wave Sheaf and the next day is Pentecost.}

Tabernacles which includes Trumpets, Atonement, Tabernacles and the Last Great Day.)

So here in Luke 22 we find that we are in the Feast season of Unleavened Bread...

Luk 22:1 Now the feast of unleavened bread drew nigh, which is called the Passover.

Now because you need to read every verse whether it pertains to the subject at hand or not...

Luk 22:2 And the chief priests and scribes sought how they might kill him; for they feared the people.
Luk 22:3 Then entered Satan into Judas surnamed Iscariot, being of the number of the twelve.
Luk 22:4 And he went his way, and communed with the chief priests and captains, how he might betray him unto them.
Luk 22:5 And they were glad, and covenanted to give him money.
Luk 22:6 And he promised, and sought opportunity to betray him unto them in the absence of the multitude.
Luk 22:7 Then came the day of unleavened bread, when the passover must be killed.

What day is this? It is the fourteenth, the Passover. You, yourself instructed me that days begin at evening and end at evening. The Jews killed the Passover lambs the next afternoon at about 3:00pm, the same time Jesus Christ died.

Now this occurs on the day portion of the thirteenth...

Luk 22:8 And he sent Peter and John, saying, Go and prepare us the passover, that we may eat.
Luk 22:9 And they said unto him, Where wilt thou that we prepare?
Luk 22:10 And he said unto them, Behold, when ye are entered into the city, there shall a man meet you, bearing a pitcher of water; follow him into the house where he entereth in.
Luk 22:11 And ye shall say unto the goodman of the house, The Master saith unto thee, Where is the guestchamber, where I shall eat the passover with my disciples?
Luk 22:12 And he shall shew you a large upper room furnished: there make ready.
Luk 22:13 And they went, and found as he had said unto them: and they made ready the passover.
Luk 22:14 And when the hour was come, he sat down, and the twelve apostles with him.
Luk 22:15 And he said unto them, With desire I have desired to eat this passover with you before I suffer:
Luk 22:16 For I say unto you, I will not any more eat thereof, until it be fulfilled in the kingdom of God.
Luk 22:17 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and said, Take this, and divide it among yourselves:
Luk 22:18 For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come.
Luk 22:19 And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.
Luk 22:20 Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you.
Luk 22:21 But, behold, the hand of him that betrayeth me is with me on the table.
Luk 22:22 And truly the Son of man goeth, as it was determined: but woe unto that man by whom he is betrayed!

They then go to the garden, Christ prays and then is betrayed.

Now how about those scriptures that say this is not the Passover, that we should not keep the Passover but rather Ishtar and "the Lord's supper"?
It still plainly says that they are eating the Passover.
 
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Because by reminding them of the law He brought much inconvenience to their life?
Galatians 6
13 For even those who are circumcised do not themselves keep the law, but they desire to have you circumcised that they may boast in your flesh. 14 But far be it from me to boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by which[a] the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world. 15 For neither circumcision counts for anything, nor uncircumcision, but a new creation.
 
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I really didn't want to get involved but you bring up the letter to the Hebrews. Whoever wrote this letter to the Hebrew, obviously didn't have the slightest clue as to what the 'new covenant was that Yehovah spoke of.

Behold, the days come, says Yehovah, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah;
Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; my covenant which they broke, although I was their master, says Yehovah; But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, says Yehovah, I will put my Torah in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. And they shall teach no more every man his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, Know Yehovah; for they shall all know me, from the least of them to the greatest of them, says Yehovah; for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will no longer remember their sin.

Thus says Yehovah, who gives the sun for a light by day, and the fixed order of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divides the sea when its waves roar; Yehovah of hosts is his name.

If those ordinances depart from before me, says Yehovah, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever. Thus says Yehovah; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth explored below, then I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, says Yehovah.


Ol' Vaudeville my favorite prophet the one who entices His first born to follow strange doctrine and other gods. Tell me prophet what are the dimensions of the heavens above? Tell me a story about your exploration of the foundations of the earth below? Then we can talk about abolishing covenants.

You and that writer of the letter to the Hebrews are notorious for contradicting what Yehovah has said and decieving the low information crowd. Apparently neither of you are aware that spiritual matters do not wear out like old garments. Study to show yourself approved prophet and you might have found a correct opinion in Psalm 111:7-8, "The works of His hands are truth and judgment; faithful are all His ordinances; well supported for ever and made with truth and integrity." Equally decided are the words of Isaiah on this subject. He says, chapter 40:8, "Grass drieth up, the flower withereth, but the word of Yehovah shall stand for ever."

I can''t believe you have the audacity to call someone else a false prophet as often as you do. Sheesh, Vaudville even Jesus said the way to eternal life was by aligning oneself to the will of the Creator (Matthew 19:16-19). It's not about legalism, its about having a relationship with a King and Father.

Grow up.
do you believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God, God himself?
if not, that's all i need to know about you and your 'passover preparations'.
 

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Is anyone else doing Passover tonight? If so, what will it look like for you?
 
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Just in case that is not enough for you...

Deu 16:16 Three times in a year shall all thy males appear before the LORD thy God in the place which he shall choose; in the feast of unleavened bread, and in the feast of weeks, and in the feast of tabernacles: and they shall not appear before the LORD empty:

There are three, count 'em, three Feast seasons in the year. The details are given in Lev 23...

Unleavened Bread which includes the Passover and the Wave Sheaf (Lev 23:5-14)

Pentecost {the Feast of Weeks (Lev 23:15-22) which is nameed such because one counts seven weeks from the Wave Sheaf and the next day is Pentecost.}

Tabernacles which includes Trumpets, Atonement, Tabernacles and the Last Great Day.)

So here in Luke 22 we find that we are in the Feast season of Unleavened Bread...

Luk 22:1 Now the feast of unleavened bread drew nigh, which is called the Passover.

Now because you need to read every verse whether it pertains to the subject at hand or not...

Luk 22:2 And the chief priests and scribes sought how they might kill him; for they feared the people.
Luk 22:3 Then entered Satan into Judas surnamed Iscariot, being of the number of the twelve.
Luk 22:4 And he went his way, and communed with the chief priests and captains, how he might betray him unto them.
Luk 22:5 And they were glad, and covenanted to give him money.
Luk 22:6 And he promised, and sought opportunity to betray him unto them in the absence of the multitude.
Luk 22:7 Then came the day of unleavened bread, when the passover must be killed.

What day is this? It is the fourteenth, the Passover. You, yourself instructed me that days begin at evening and end at evening. The Jews killed the Passover lambs the next afternoon at about 3:00pm, the same time Jesus Christ died.

Now this occurs on the day portion of the thirteenth...

Luk 22:8 And he sent Peter and John, saying, Go and prepare us the passover, that we may eat.
Luk 22:9 And they said unto him, Where wilt thou that we prepare?
Luk 22:10 And he said unto them, Behold, when ye are entered into the city, there shall a man meet you, bearing a pitcher of water; follow him into the house where he entereth in.
Luk 22:11 And ye shall say unto the goodman of the house, The Master saith unto thee, Where is the guestchamber, where I shall eat the passover with my disciples?
Luk 22:12 And he shall shew you a large upper room furnished: there make ready.
Luk 22:13 And they went, and found as he had said unto them: and they made ready the passover.
Luk 22:14 And when the hour was come, he sat down, and the twelve apostles with him.
Luk 22:15 And he said unto them, With desire I have desired to eat this passover with you before I suffer:
Luk 22:16 For I say unto you, I will not any more eat thereof, until it be fulfilled in the kingdom of God.
Luk 22:17 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and said, Take this, and divide it among yourselves:
Luk 22:18 For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come.
Luk 22:19 And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.
Luk 22:20 Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you.
Luk 22:21 But, behold, the hand of him that betrayeth me is with me on the table.
Luk 22:22 And truly the Son of man goeth, as it was determined: but woe unto that man by whom he is betrayed!

They then go to the garden, Christ prays and then is betrayed.

Now how about those scriptures that say this is not the Passover, that we should not keep the Passover but rather Ishtar and "the Lord's supper"?
It still plainly says that they are eating the Passover.

You are aware of the fact one can NOT eat a Passover lamb till AFTER it is killed. The Passover meal would NOT have been eaten till AFTER Jesus died. The meal Jesus had WAS BEFORE the Passover lambs were killed. :rolleyes:
 

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You are aware of the fact one can NOT eat a Passover lamb till AFTER it is killed. The Passover meal would NOT have been eaten till AFTER Jesus died. The meal Jesus had WAS BEFORE the Passover lambs were killed. :rolleyes:
You are aware that Christ, the God of the Old Testament, the Creator and the Savior of mankind had the authority to proclaim this the Passover and I am pretty sure He did not need the High priest to OK this. The Passover that Christ and the disciples ate was within the same 24 hour day that the Passover Lambs were killed within. As we saw in Lev 23, the Passover is on the fourteenth, and the high day, the First Day of Unleavened Bread is on the fifteenth. Now let's go back to Lev 23 and do some very simple math...

Lev 23:5 In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD'S passover.
Lev 23:6 And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the LORD: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread.
Lev 23:7 In the first day ye shall have an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.
Lev 23:8 But ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD seven days: in the seventh day is an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.

Passover is on the fourteenth. The days of Unleavended Bread are from the fifteenth to the twenty-first. Start counting on the fifteenth...

15th - 1
16th - 2
17th - 3
18th - 4
19th - 5
20th - 6
21st - 7

Seven days but the Passover is the day before we start counting. It is on the fourteenth.

Christ and His discipled ate the Passover on the fourteenth and He was crucified on the fourteenth. The Jews wanted the bodies taken down because the next day was the Sabbath, the Holy Convocation, the High Day, the First Day of Unleavened Bread.

Do you doubt that Christ was crucified on the Passover? Do you doubt that He ate what He said was the Passover with His disciples the night before? If you do, you doubt scripture.

Perhaps you have not really been told the truth about this season. Perhaps the Ishtar rites that churches teach today are incorrect. Either that or the scripture can't really be relied on. Count three days AND three nights from Friday afternoon at sunset to Sunday while it was yet dark.

So please post the scriptures that show this is not the Passover and we should observe Ishtar and "the Lord's supper".
 

john832

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Speaking of the First Day of Unleavened Bread, it begins this evening at sunset. Here is another pint of gas for the fire...

Exo 12:42 It is a night to be much observed unto the LORD for bringing them out from the land of Egypt: this is that night of the LORD to be observed of all the children of Israel in their generations.

Tonight is the Night to Be Much Observed. It commemorates coming out of spiritual Egypt (sin) for Christians today. It begins the coming out of sin pictured by the Days of Unleavened Bread.
 
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Is anyone else doing Passover tonight? If so, what will it look like for you?
We are but then it's just a dinner gathering. We'll have lamb, unleavened bread and some wine - for the remembrance of His sacrifice. Nothing formal.
Oh last Sabbath we actually listened to an old song "the Exodus song" by Pat Poone. I know it's not a religious song but it's touching nonetheless. Planned to watch the movie tomorrow night.
 

KohenMatt

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Our church is having a dinner tonight, and reading through an order of service. We're splitting into tables of 8, and while there is a little mass teaching, the majority of the service will be individual table leaders walking through the service and answering questions. We should be having around 120 people.

My family will be having 2 new folks for their 1st Passover tonight at our table.
 
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We are but then it's just a dinner gathering. We'll have lamb, unleavened bread and some wine - for the remembrance of His sacrifice. Nothing formal.
Oh last Sabbath we actually listened to an old song "the Exodus song" by Pat Poone. I know it's not a religious song but it's touching nonetheless. Planned to watch the movie tomorrow night.
We're doing the same, I never heard of "The Exodus song," but I'm gonna see if I can find it on Youtube.

I also printed up the verses about the "Four Cups," (Thank you sis Karraster,) for us to read after we read the accounts in scripture together.

We also don't have a Shofar, so I downloaded a file that a friend of ours made and recorded for this purpose.

Something about that sound!

Here's one on Youtube for anyone who doesn't have one of their own.

[video=youtube;j8t1r2DSxsg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8t1r2DSxsg[/video]