POLL: The Deity of Christ
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“And He was saying to them, “You are from below, I am from above; you are of this world, I am not of this world. “Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe that I am (He), you will die in your sins.”
This is a contrast of origins. “You are from below” represents a particular epistemology – a state of mind, a way of reasoning, a process of determining what is true. Their epistemology was from below and reflected the mind of the world. Jesus' epistemology was from heaven and reflected the mind of God. The 'he' is not in the Greek and the insertion of the pronoun in the English translations is, I think, both unwarranted and unfortunate. The insertion of the pronoun leads to uncalled for speculation about Jesus use of ἐγώ εἰμι. Jesus is not using ἐγώ εἰμι here as declaration of divine title as he does in verse 58. Here, ἐγώ εἰμι simply modifies his claims of the two previous clause - “I am from above...I am not of this world...and unless you believe that I am ((from above and not from this world)) you will die in your sins). Accepting Jesus' claims then of being from heaven is prerequisite tosalvation. One cannot deny Jesus' rightful place with everything this implies and be saved. Forgiveness of sin cannot be separated from the divinity of Jesus. If one does not believe he is the God of heaven there is no forgiveness of sin. This one fact gives credence to whatever comes out of his mouth. Whatever he says is the WORD OF GOD!
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Matthew 26--Now the chief priests, and elders, and all the council, sought false witness against Jesus, to put him to death; 60But found none: yea, though many false witnesses came, yet found they none. At the last came two false witnesses, 61And said, This fellow said, I am able to destroy the temple of God, and to build it in three days. 62And the high priest arose, and said unto him, Answerest thou nothing? what is it which these witness against thee? 63But Jesus held his peace. And the high priest answered and said unto him, I adjure thee by the living God, that thou tell us whether thou be the Christ, the Son of God. 64Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.65Then the high priest rent his clothes, saying, He hath spoken blasphemy; what further need have we of witnesses? behold, now ye have heard his blasphemy. 66What think ye? They answered and said, He is guilty of death.
Matthew 16---When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets.He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, SimonBarjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Fatherwhich is in heaven.
John 8---Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
John 10-- I and the Father are One.
John 14-- He who has seen me has seen the Father.
Just to name a few. If Jesus didnt claim to be God why did the priest rip his robe? Why did he say it was blasphemy,what Jesus had said?
God the Son eternally proceeds from God the Father (Jn 8:42, 16:27, 28, 17:8).
God the Son is subject to God the Father.
God the Holy Spirit proceeds from both God the Father (Jn 15:26) and God the Son (Gal 4:6; Ro 8:9).
God the Holy Spirit is subject to God the Father and God the Son.
The new covenant word of God presents three divine persons in one God.
God the Father willed the plan.
God the Son carried out the plan.
God the Holy Spirit applies the benefits of the plan.
God the Son is subject to God the Father.
God the Holy Spirit proceeds from both God the Father (Jn 15:26) and God the Son (Gal 4:6; Ro 8:9).
God the Holy Spirit is subject to God the Father and God the Son.
The new covenant word of God presents three divine persons in one God.
God the Father willed the plan.
God the Son carried out the plan.
God the Holy Spirit applies the benefits of the plan.
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You're truly exasperating, you know that? How many times do you have to be told God is Father, Son, Holy Spirit, yet One? As I told you before, you can neither explain nor deny this truth with the mind of a mere man. Digest this:
Got it? OK ... explain to me how He says "Father, Son, Holy Spirit" but says there is only one name.
Get a clue, man.
Matthew 28, NASB
19 "Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit,
20 teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always *, even to the end of the age."
19 "Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit,
20 teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always *, even to the end of the age."
Got it? OK ... explain to me how He says "Father, Son, Holy Spirit" but says there is only one name.
Get a clue, man.
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