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Oh yes I did. I already showed you from Scripture, why the Body of Christ cannot be on the Earth during the time of Jacob's trouble. We are not appointed to wrath ( See 1 Thess. 5:9)
Also, it is the time of Jacob's trouble. It is NOT the time of the Church's trouble. PeterT, you need to compare Scripture with Scripture.
Oh yes I am. And I already showed you why Christians are not going to be here in the time of Jacob's trouble. In the time of Jacob's trouble, you have faith AND works:
[SUP]9 [/SUP]And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
[SUP]10 [/SUP]The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
[SUP]11 [/SUP]And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
Do you see that? Faith AND Works.
Now PeterT, are saved today by faith and our works?
Obvious answer is no:
[SUP]8 [/SUP]For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Not of works, lest any man should boast. - Ephesians 2:8-9 (King James Bible)
In the Church Age, we are saved by grace through faith only.
In the time of Jacob's trouble, things change. People are saved a different way in the time of Jacob's trouble. Again, it is faith AND works in the Time of Jacob's trouble or Tribulation.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
[SUP]15 [/SUP]If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
[SUP]16 [/SUP]And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. - James 2:14-17 (King James Bible)
And who is the book of James written to?1 James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.
The book of James is aimed Doctrinally at a Jew in the time of Jacob's trouble.
Peter, Rightly divide the word of truth.
[SUP]52 [/SUP]In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. - 1 Corinthians 15:52 (King James Bible)
Now where in that passage do you see "Last Trumpet?"
Guess how many times the phrase "Last Trumpet" appears in the King James Bible?: 0
Well yes, and that event is called the Second Coming or Second Advent of Jesus Christ. The Second Coming of Jesus Christ is a different event than the Rapture. The Rapture and the Second Coming are NOT the same event. They are two totally different events.
Yes there is. It is called the Rapture or the Catching away of the Saints. Or the Translation of the Saints in the Church Age. Read 1 Cor. 15:51-54 and 1 Thess. 4:16-18.
Also, it is the time of Jacob's trouble. It is NOT the time of the Church's trouble. PeterT, you need to compare Scripture with Scripture.
Oh yes I am. And I already showed you why Christians are not going to be here in the time of Jacob's trouble. In the time of Jacob's trouble, you have faith AND works:
[SUP]9 [/SUP]And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
[SUP]10 [/SUP]The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
[SUP]11 [/SUP]And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
Do you see that? Faith AND Works.
Now PeterT, are saved today by faith and our works?
Obvious answer is no:
[SUP]8 [/SUP]For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Not of works, lest any man should boast. - Ephesians 2:8-9 (King James Bible)
In the Church Age, we are saved by grace through faith only.
In the time of Jacob's trouble, things change. People are saved a different way in the time of Jacob's trouble. Again, it is faith AND works in the Time of Jacob's trouble or Tribulation.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
[SUP]15 [/SUP]If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
[SUP]16 [/SUP]And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. - James 2:14-17 (King James Bible)
And who is the book of James written to?1 James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.
The book of James is aimed Doctrinally at a Jew in the time of Jacob's trouble.
Peter, Rightly divide the word of truth.
[SUP]52 [/SUP]In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. - 1 Corinthians 15:52 (King James Bible)
Now where in that passage do you see "Last Trumpet?"
Guess how many times the phrase "Last Trumpet" appears in the King James Bible?: 0
Well yes, and that event is called the Second Coming or Second Advent of Jesus Christ. The Second Coming of Jesus Christ is a different event than the Rapture. The Rapture and the Second Coming are NOT the same event. They are two totally different events.
Yes there is. It is called the Rapture or the Catching away of the Saints. Or the Translation of the Saints in the Church Age. Read 1 Cor. 15:51-54 and 1 Thess. 4:16-18.
One Christian dies before the tribulation and another lives to see the tribulation and has to avoid the mark of the beast, doesn’t show two different Christian people or a pre-trib coming.
If you live to see tribulation you will have to avoid the mark that is the only difference.
Nothing to do with a pre-trib rapture
Right now you don’t have to avoid the mark of the beast, but if great tribulation starts before you die you will have to avoid the mark of the beast. Where is the two different Christians in that?