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Wow, I said I was being evasive and playing around.
Well maybe I am a cessationist maybe not, I said I do believe God continues to heal, tongues is not something I have really thought about. I guess I will first have to do some expert research.
however I have way more other pressing issues first, but I can put tongues on the list.
No I do not belong to a church, as in denomination, but I have a fellowship group, and you know what else we as a group research together as good Bereans should!
Yup Goodbye. Have a good weekend
Well maybe I am a cessationist maybe not, I said I do believe God continues to heal, tongues is not something I have really thought about. I guess I will first have to do some expert research.
however I have way more other pressing issues first, but I can put tongues on the list.No I do not belong to a church, as in denomination, but I have a fellowship group, and you know what else we as a group research together as good Bereans should!
Yup Goodbye. Have a good weekend
R
Wow, I said I was being evasive and playing around.
Well maybe I am a cessationist maybe not, I said I do believe God continues to heal, tongues is not something I have really thought about. I guess I will first have to do some expert research. however I have way more other pressing issues first, but I can put tongues on the list.
No I do not belong to a church, as in denomination, but I have a fellowship group, and you know what else we as a group research together as good Bereans should!
Yup Goodbye. Have a good weekend
Well maybe I am a cessationist maybe not, I said I do believe God continues to heal, tongues is not something I have really thought about. I guess I will first have to do some expert research.
however I have way more other pressing issues first, but I can put tongues on the list.No I do not belong to a church, as in denomination, but I have a fellowship group, and you know what else we as a group research together as good Bereans should!
Yup Goodbye. Have a good weekend
Exactly. The ministry of satan is to steal, kill, and destroy (John 10:10). The fact that satan spends so much time talking believers out of the manifestation of the Spirit (and I'm not talking about tongues only, I'm talking about all shown in 1 Cor 12:8-10 --- word of wisdom, word of knowledge, faith, gifts of healing, working of miracles, prophecy, discerning of spirits, kinds of tongues, interpretation of tongues) --- anyway, the fact that satan spends so much time talking believers out of the manifestation of the Spirit serves only to reveal there is much benefit to be gained by the body of Christ in the utilization of the manifestation.
satan has basically robbed God's children of the profit God had in mind for the body of Christ.
Believers need to stand firm in faith, knowing that Father would never do anything to them to bring them harm, He wants only goodness for us. When God energizes the manifestation, it is not to cause alarm, it is to bring benefit to the body of Christ. But most believers are afraid of their own Father. Such a shame.
satan has basically robbed God's children of the profit God had in mind for the body of Christ.
Believers need to stand firm in faith, knowing that Father would never do anything to them to bring them harm, He wants only goodness for us. When God energizes the manifestation, it is not to cause alarm, it is to bring benefit to the body of Christ. But most believers are afraid of their own Father. Such a shame.
Accusing me of denying the Holy Spirit is a backhanded slap not only against me but against the Lord Who saved me. Your protestations of innocence are invalid. I'm not going to hold it against you.
Now do you believe that tongues are ecstatic utterances or human languages?
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Now do you believe that tongues are ecstatic utterances or human languages?
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Yes it was one of the many manners God spoke through up until the last revelation was given to John with the closing of all scripture all new prophecy has ceased.
Today if any man say lo is Christ speaking in a tongue we are to believe not. The elect will not be deceived they will not add the the now perfect word of God. It is sealed up till the end of time.tongues today is a false way to prove one has the Holy Spirit there is no outward sign that would indicate a person is born.A new heart and spirit that desires to do His will yes.
Mat 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
Today if any man say lo is Christ speaking in a tongue we are to believe not. The elect will not be deceived they will not add the the now perfect word of God. It is sealed up till the end of time.tongues today is a false way to prove one has the Holy Spirit there is no outward sign that would indicate a person is born.A new heart and spirit that desires to do His will yes.
Mat 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
U
This does indeed make perfect sense if one looks a the development of language in all areas, even in Japanese while they do not use the alphabetic system, using a very different symbol system there still is a very logical pattern in place in their oral speech.
I believe God gave humans language, many researchers do support that it is an innate ability present at birth (barring any brain damage) it would seem logical that human language is a reflection of the spiritual.
Glossalia does come across like a fluid like speech that lacks any distinct syllables or patterns. Very interesting point. Thank you.
I believe God gave humans language, many researchers do support that it is an innate ability present at birth (barring any brain damage) it would seem logical that human language is a reflection of the spiritual.
Glossalia does come across like a fluid like speech that lacks any distinct syllables or patterns. Very interesting point. Thank you.
I don't slap people. they generally manage to do a good job of that themselves
who do you think YOU are slapping when you say believers who speak in tongues are doing so by the power of the devil?
you cannot say you accept this gift but not that gift
the Holy Spirit will never say certain gifts have ceased...He would never say that
so who are the people who try to excise certain gifts actually listening to?the rhetoric that I slapped you is total nonsense
you are trying to defend something that cannot be defended
Slapping is not the order connected with the notion of tongues today . Falling back, slain in the Spirit is by someone putting their hand on the forehead . Falling back simply mean a person is under the judgement of God.
I have been in services where the joy of the Lord was there and people were laughing. It is totally legitimate. I have never heard of it called a gift of the Holy Spirit though.
Certainly there are people that try to mimic this joy in the Lord and do some things in the flesh but it doesn't negate the reality of the true joy of the Lord and it does manifest itself sometimes in laughter.
Joy is a fruit of the Spirit within us. The kingdom of God is with us and Paul says that righteousness and joy and peace are a part of it.
Job 8:21 (NASB)
[SUP]21 [/SUP] "He will yet fill your mouth with laughter And your lips with shouting.
Psalm 126:1-3 (KJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] When the LORD turned again the captivity of Zion, we were like them that dream.
[SUP]2 [/SUP] Then was our mouth filled with laughter, and our tongue with singing: then said they among the heathen, The LORD hath done great things for them.
[SUP]3 [/SUP] The LORD hath done great things for us; whereof we are glad.
The Lord Himself loves to laugh.
Psalm 2:4 (NASB)
[SUP]4 [/SUP] He who sits in the heavens laughs, The Lord scoffs at them.
Certainly there are people that try to mimic this joy in the Lord and do some things in the flesh but it doesn't negate the reality of the true joy of the Lord and it does manifest itself sometimes in laughter.
Joy is a fruit of the Spirit within us. The kingdom of God is with us and Paul says that righteousness and joy and peace are a part of it.
Job 8:21 (NASB)
[SUP]21 [/SUP] "He will yet fill your mouth with laughter And your lips with shouting.
Psalm 126:1-3 (KJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] When the LORD turned again the captivity of Zion, we were like them that dream.
[SUP]2 [/SUP] Then was our mouth filled with laughter, and our tongue with singing: then said they among the heathen, The LORD hath done great things for them.
[SUP]3 [/SUP] The LORD hath done great things for us; whereof we are glad.
The Lord Himself loves to laugh.
Psalm 2:4 (NASB)
[SUP]4 [/SUP] He who sits in the heavens laughs, The Lord scoffs at them.
Have you ever been in a situation where people start laughing and then other people start laughing for no reason?
Here is a youtube video of it. It's hilarious. It does happen....laughter and joy are a sign of the kingdom of God.....
[video=youtube;kHnRIAVXTMQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHnRIAVXTMQ[/video]