Rapture= false teaching

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By the way that solves the 666 Story too the trinity of Man. The number of man. walt2000
 
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God forgive you. I am having a hard time doing so.
Perhaps it is sin against the church and the members of Christ's body when some condemn and judge it with their prophecies that are contrary to the work of edification that Christ is doing in His church and body through mercy and grace and through the preaching of the whole counsel of God. Perhaps those that do this have been blinded by the god of this world as to the preciousness of the church which is God's purchased possession that has been redeemed by the blood of Christ. This same church that has been raised up by God and built upon Christ which the gates of hell will not prevail against.
 

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I am only 19, and i am terrified of the end of the world, i really think i will go to hell because of some bad things that i have done/ still doing, but it's complicated. I am so afraid it's keeping me awake at night, i am literally terrified, i am scared to even open my bible because i feel like God hates me. Please can someone help me?

Right this minute, you can be assured of God's love, and you can know His salvation by His Spirit. Ask, and receive. Trust and He will show you all the truth.

In the name of Jesus we have life and salvation.

Do not worry about what you have done, or what you are doing. You already know that they are wrong, and have the fear of punishment. In Jesus, all the costs have been paid.
 

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Yes i believe in all thoses things but, i am in a sexual relationship with my boyfriend who is not a christian, and it hurts me everyday, but i love him too much to break up with him. I love god, and want to live for him, by being a missionary or charity work, but i just hate myself so so much for this, ad i have no idea what to do anymore. Has anyone else been through this? Please someone help me, i am lost.
We can do nothing on our own. We can only give every situation to God, not only to rectify, but to judge. So, do not condemn yourself, not let anyone else condemn you. Rather, trust in the Spirit of God's love to show you the way, and to make that way possible.
 

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Perhaps it is sin against the church and the members of Christ's body when some condemn and judge it with their prophecies that are contrary to the work of edification that Christ is doing in His church and body through mercy and grace and through the preaching of the whole counsel of God. Perhaps those that do this have been blinded by the god of this world as to the preciousness of the church which is God's purchased possession that has been redeemed by the blood of Christ. This same church that has been raised up by God and built upon Christ which the gates of hell will not prevail against.
And how is God building this church?

Answer this simple question, telling us by what agency He is building us into a house for Him to inhabit.
 
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Yes i know this, but i dont want to lose the love that me and him share, i dont want to break our hearts, i am not as strong as you are, I cant break somebodys heart, i know how much it hurts. Surely causig him pain will not help his path to god either? I know the sex is wrong, but the love i feel for him, i dont know what i would do without him. And im sure suicide is the ultimate sin?

I wish things were easier.

All I am asking you to do is compare what you have now, with an eternity in hell. Is it worth it? Why don't you just get married? If he is not willing, then he really does not love you anyway. He may only love what you are giving him.

Suicide is not the answer. The answer is to stop sinning. And if you are committing fornication, SO IS HE. So in a way you are helping send him to hell too. Is that what you really want? Hell is forever. One of the worst torments of hell is that you KNOW it is forever and you know that YOU DID IT. Kate, what you have is not worth and eternity in hell. It is not really worth ONE DAY in hell. You are worth more than that. There is only one of you in the whole universe! God loves you more than you can imagine. He certainly does not want you to spend eternity in hell. I guess you know, hell is filled with people stuck just like you are. The devil always wants to take us farther than we want to go, and always tries to keep us longer than we wish to stay. But it is possible to break away from sin. CRY OUT to God for help!

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And how is God building this church?

Answer this simple question, telling us by what agency He is building us into a house for Him to inhabit.
The agency is the Holy Spirit who takes grace and the word of God to edify and build up the members of the church, Christ's body, as a habitation of God. Those that have the Spirit and are filled with the Spirit and walk in the Spirit are edifying the church and building up each member through the word of God's grace. Those that condemn and judge the church by making prophecies against it, do not edify and are of another (s)pirit and not the Spirit of God. The Holy Spirit has been given to build up believers with the truth, with the promises of God, with grace and by every word of God. That is the work of God that we take on through the Spirit as believers and the gates of hell will not prevail against it.
 
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The Bible says the saints do not go home until the last trumpet,so they have to be on earth for the 6th trumpet.

The 6th trumpet is a 200,000,000 men army that wars and causes one third of the world's population to die,by them and the people who fight them,which will occur during the tribulation period.

The saints will go home after the 6th trumpet that happens during the tribulation period.

52In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality(1 Corinthians 15:52-53).


Paul said the saints will go home at the last trumpet,and he is not talking about tribulation saints after the saints before the tribulation,so the saints have to be on earth during the tribulation,because they go home after the 6th trumpet which happens during the tribulation.


Nowhere in the history of mankind has that big of an army fought against the world,and caused one third of the world's population to die.It also describes modern day weapons that sound like nuclear weapons.
The saints will not go home until after that war.


The truth is the saints will not go home until after the world takes the mark of the beast,for as long as the world can repent of their sins,God will not take His children home.When the world takes the mark of the beast,they cannot repent anymore,and God will take all His children home at one time,which is why the Bible says the saints will not be gathered unto Christ until the man of sin is revealed and claims to be God,who will exalt himself above all that is called God or is worshipped.
 

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The agency is the Holy Spirit who takes grace and the word of God to edify and build up the members of the church, Christ's body, as a habitation of God. Those that have the Spirit and are filled with the Spirit and walk in the Spirit are edifying the church and building up each member through the word of God's grace. Those that condemn and judge the church by making prophecies against it, do not edify and are of another (s)pirit and not the Spirit of God. The Holy Spirit has been given to build up believers with the truth, with the promises of God, with grace and by every word of God. That is the work of God that we take on through the Spirit as believers and the gates of hell will not prevail against it.
And yet, Paul wrote that the day of the Lord would not come except there first come the falling away. And again, Paul wrote that in the last days men would have a form of godliness while denying the power of God. Rather strong condemnation, don't you think? Maybe Paul had this other spirit you think I have.

Grace is somethins that happens. Find grace in your own life and then tell others about God who lives in you.

God asked me once, during church services, what one has when they take a harlot and put her in a wedding dress? The answer is surprisingly simple and obvious. That is not the bride the Father is giving His Son, one who can excuse every kind of sin in the name of grace.

Grace saves us because it changes us. It changes us because we cannot remain as we were after being in God's presence. No one has been able to remain unchanged after meeting God.

So, what is wrong with the grace you preach? I received a prophecy about this form of so called grace, but I will not relate it here. You tell the sinner to believe and everything is forgiven. But you do not tell them why it is all forgiven, and you point them to the bible and the church for salvation, rather than instruct them in true grace, which is a living and growing personal relationship with God, the actual purpose of having their sins forgiven. And so, rather than grace, which is the power of God, you give them religion, and call it grace.

We have been offered mercy, but not for us to consume it in some religious enterprise. God gave His Son to bring us back into fellowship with Himself. And it is this fellowship that is the power of God, and this fellowship is grace from God.

You have been exposed to His truth to already know these things, to have them central in your life. But sadly you do not even acknowledge that these things are written of in scripture. And for this reason you will keep going backwards, ever learning while never coming to the knowledge of God.

John put the concept I have been writing to you so well. He writes to the little children, because their sins are forgiven for his name's sake. And to the young men, because the Word of God abides in them. And to the fathers, because they know Him who was in the beginning.

I do not call scripture by the name "word of God" even though it clearly is His, inspired and breathed by Him. No, in my heart and mind it is scripture. Jesus is "The Word of God" and He is with God, and He is God. That is the word which abides in young men so that they are strong and have overcome the wicked one.

Oh well, I suspect that I have not convinced in any of these things.
 
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Remember .His number is 666 is some thing for you not to except.

Look at the 6 horizontal line , man ,and then look at the 6 vertical line, man Thunder ,and draw a line diagonally from one White Horse to the other White Horse .Rev.14/2 The Great Thunder The Eighth Thunder
You will get Rev.16/12.Three evil spirits ,like frogs
The Great River 6= Dragon.1 frog devil
6= beast out of Sea,------2 frog beast out of Sea ,,people.
6= False prophet.---------3 frog false prophet ,the vomit that the dragon vomited ,at the child ,and woman. False Word.
666 The Beast
Rev. 13/18 This calls for wisdom.If anyone has insight , let him calculate the number of the beast .for it is man's
Rapture = False teaching
No Rapture But a Come Out my People
When the Thunders Are over and Christ Comes For The Harvest.walt2000
 
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I Hope I Did not bust any bodys bubble walt2000
 
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And to top it all off he QUOTES HIM SELF EIGHT TIMES ,with a protection Rev.22/18-19
Look at souls Protected five th. line
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5Th. line Vertically = The Word.
5Th. line Horizontally = The Word.
Now I'll let you be. Lets see Whats in The World = 4 By the way

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One = unity, Two = Union with God, 4 = the world

The Fourth Vertical lines And The Fourth Horizontal lines Talk about the Four Spirits the Roam the Earth.
In Relation to God the Divine.

The fifth Vertical line ,And the fifth Horizontal line Talks about the word of God. In relation to True Word.of God.

The Sixth Vertical line ,And the Sixth Horizontal line Talk Man. In relation to God.

The Seventh Vertical line ,And the Seventh horizontal line ,Talk about Whore Babylon in relation to the Divine.
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1=THE 1st. SEAL =The White Horse. Starts with a White Horse.And Ends With a White Horse Winner.Rev.6/1.

2= The 2nd. Trumpet .Burning mount. in the Sea.Rev.8/8.

3 =The Beast Will Make War.Rev.11/7.

4 = The Three Angel Messengers Go into the Word of God.Rev.14/6.

5 = The Third Angel .THE SON OF MAN and SICKLE.Don't Worship The Beast Rev.14/16.

6 =The 6 th. Vial The Great River.Rev.16/12.

7 =The Great White Horse The Winner Rev.19/11.
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quote - 'God asked me once, during church services, what one has when they take a harlot and put her in a wedding dress? The answer is surprisingly simple and obvious. That is not the bride the Father is giving His Son, one who can excuse every kind of sin in the name of grace.' - unquote

Grace does not advocate sin nor a lifestyle of sin but to live godly and righteously in this present world (Titus 2:11:12) and neither do I advocate sin of any kind. You claim to have the Spirit and to understand grace, so tell me what Jesus meant when he addressed the chief priests and the elders of the people in (Mt 21:23-31)...

28 What do you think? There was a man who had two sons. He came to the first and said, Son, go and work today in the vineyard.
29 And he answered, I will not; but afterward he changed his mind and went.
30 Then the man came to the second and said the same [thing]. And he replied, I will [go], sir; but he did not go.
31 Which of the two did the will of the father? They replied, The first one. Jesus said to them, Truly I tell you, the tax collectors and the harlots will get into the kingdom of heaven before you.
32 For John came to you walking in the way of an upright man in right standing with God, and you did not believe him, but the tax collectors and the harlots did believe him; and you, even when you saw that, did not afterward change your minds and believe him [adhere to, trust in, and rely on what he told you].

Also explain why the Holy Spirit made sure that Rahab the harlot was included in the heroes of faith in (Heb 11:31) and also in (Jm 2:25) when Rahab the harlot was justified by her work of faith when she hid the spies and lied to the enemy (. Why would the Holy Spirit refer to her as 'the harlot'? She is the only one who has that name in 32,000 verses of scripture, the other mention of Rahab is a geographical location in (Ps 87:4, 89:10, Is 51:9), so she is not mentioned this way for identification purposes.

If she had repented of her occupation as a harlot, why did the Holy Spirit mention her in the NT as 'Rahab the harlot'. Why are we to remember her as 'Rahab the harlot'? Why would the spies find refuge in the house of a harlot? Why would God use a harlot to fulfill His will for his chosen people? Did Rahab the harlot discern the will of God concerning Jericho and the people of Israel under Joshua? How can Rahab be a harlot, discern the will of God, participate in hiding the spies, be saved from destruction with her family, be a hero of faith and do the work of God (Joshua 2 & 6)? She also joined herself, as a harlot, to Israel and remained according to (Joshua 6:25).

Israel had the law of Moses, so how was it possible that Rahab the harlot would be permitted to join herself unto Israel. The record of her life stops in (Joshua 6) and picks up in the NT as a testimony in (Heb 11 & James 2). Look at the company of individuals that that she is lumped with in (Heb 11) and James uses her with Abraham to explain being justified by works of faith (James 2:25). Can any claim and conclude of a certainty that Rahab the harlot did not do the will of God and will not inherit the kingdom of God?