Rapture= false teaching

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If we were given the way would we accept it.?walt2000
 
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I think we would just crucify him.again, with his word .walt2000
 
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NOBODY IS RIGHTEOUS NOT ONE! Romans 3:10..... Romans 10:3 warns - Since they did not know the righteousness that comes from God and sought to establish their own, they did not submit to God's righteousness.

HERE is the deal, GOD wants to make YOU.. one with CHRIST..literally... to put YOUR SPIRIT into CHRISTS and to make you ONE with GOD .. hence, HEAVEN is within you and LIVING WATER will flow from within. BUT...

YOU MUST HATE THE WORLD AND ALL THAT IS IN IT AS JESUS SAID:

ASK, READ, REPENT and only seek heaven and do not love the world of anything in it, I promise you all.. that this is what the TRUE message of the Gospel IS because IF YOU JUST OPEN your eyes and heart and take these Scriptures for what they are and BOLDLY ASK GOD for heaven within you now, the Living Water, AND KEEP READING, fasting and pushing hard reading Matthew to Revelations and suffering like JESUS did with fasting and not sinning at ALL.. GOD will do IT!

WATCH my testimony - http://www.youtube.com/my_videos?feature=mhum
THIS IS THE REAL TRUTH OF CHRIST HE HAS SHOWN ME HIMSELF, I COME in the NAME OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST RAISED THE 3rd day by the FATHER who sends the HOLY SPIRIT to those who TRULY REPENT AND ASK AND SEEK AND KEEP SEEKING BOLDLY UNTIL THEY FIND... AND ONLY THOSE WHO SEEK BOLDLY as JESUS SAID in the parable with the man asking for BREAD that was turned away BUT got the bread HE wanted due to HIS BOLD PERSISTENCE!

Luke 11:8 "I tell you, though he will not get up and give him the bread because he is his friend, yet because of the man's boldness he will get up and give him as much as he needs."
•John 17:21 - Jesus said: "That all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be IN us."
John 8:31 - "IF you ABIDE in my word, you are TRULY my disciples."
• John 14:21: "He who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love him and show myself to him."
• Luke 14:26 - "If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters--yes, even his own life--he cannot be my disciple." HATE in really "love less by comparison." In the Greek original.
• John 7:37 - For Jesus stood and cried, saying on the day of the Feast, "If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink. 38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his BELLY shall flow rivers of Living Water!"
• Luke 17:21 "nor will people say, 'Here it is,' or 'There it is,' because the kingdom of God is within you."
• John 7:38 - "Whoever believes in me, as the Scripture has said, streams of living water will flow from within him."
• LUKE 12:2 - "... and all that is secret will be made known."
• John 12:25 - "Those who love their lives will destroy them, and those who hate their lives in this world will guard them for everlasting life."
• 1 John 2:15 - "Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him."
• Rev 3:20 - "If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with him, and he with me.”
• Galatians 2:20 - "I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me."
• 2 Corinthians 13:5 - "Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith; test yourselves. Do you not realize that Christ Jesus is in you--unless, of course, you fail the test?"
• Hebrews 12:14 - "Without holiness no one will see the Lord."
• 2 Peter 2:2 - "Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute."
• Ephesians 2:14 - For he himself is our peace, who has made the two one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility, by abolishing in his flesh the law with its commandments and regulations. His purpose was to create in himself one new man out of the two, thus making peace, and in this one body to reconcile both of them to God through the cross, by which he put to death their hostility.

• Romans 8:9 -- "You, however, are controlled not by the sinful nature but by the Spirit, if the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ."

• Galatians 5:20 -- "Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the sinful nature with its passions and desires."

• Colossians 2:11 -- "In him you were also circumcised, in the putting off of the sinful nature, not with a circumcision done by the hands of men but with the circumcision done by Christ."

• John 17:24 "Father, I want those you have given me to be with me where I am, and to see my glory, the glory you have given me because you loved me before the creation of the world."

• 1 John 2:27 "...and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit."
• 1 John 3:9 - "No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God's seed remains in him; he cannot go on sinning, because he has been born of God."

• 1 John 5:18 - "We know that the person who has been born from God does not go on sinning. Rather, the Son of God protects them, and the evil one cannot harm them."
• Luke 24:49 "I am going to send you what my Father has promised; but stay in the city until you have been clothed with power from on high."

• John 4: 23 -- "Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. 24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth."

• Hebrews 12:8 "If you are not disciplined (and everyone undergoes discipline), then you are illegitimate children and not true sons."

• John 8:34 - Jesus replied, "I tell you the truth, everyone who sins is a slave to sin. 35 Now a slave has no permanent place in the family, but a son belongs to it forever. 36 So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed."
• Hebrews 10:26 - If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, 27but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God.
 
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Even if I die, I am ready. Praise God for everything He has done. I could tell you of things I have prayed for that have come true, and you wouldn't believe me with some of them.

Just remember even if this world hates you, Christ endured it first and in His clean conscience, He overcame
 
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1 thes. 4:13-18 Jesus does not touch down on earth as He does post trib, these are seperate events not a false teaching.

1th 4:13But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.1th 4:14For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.1th 4:15For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.1th 4:16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:1th 4:17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.1th 4:18Wherefore comfort one another with these words.


If you want to go through the tribulation period go ahead, but I am meeting Him in the air as thus saith the Lord

you need to read rev9:9--14. it is important.
 
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1 thes. 4:13-18 Jesus does not touch down on earth as He does post trib, these are seperate events not a false teaching.

1th 4:13But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.1th 4:14For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.1th 4:15For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.1th 4:16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:1th 4:17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.1th 4:18Wherefore comfort one another with these words.


If you want to go through the tribulation period go ahead, but I am meeting Him in the air as thus saith the Lord

you need to read rev9:9---14
 
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1 thes. 4:13-18 Jesus does not touch down on earth as He does post trib, these are seperate events not a false teaching.

1th 4:13But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.1th 4:14For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.1th 4:15For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.1th 4:16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:1th 4:17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.1th 4:18Wherefore comfort one another with these words.


If you want to go through the tribulation period go ahead, but I am meeting Him in the air as thus saith the Lord

need to read rev9:9---14.
 
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1 thes. 4:13-18 Jesus does not touch down on earth as He does post trib, these are seperate events not a false teaching.

1th 4:13But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.1th 4:14For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.1th 4:15For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.1th 4:16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:1th 4:17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.1th 4:18Wherefore comfort one another with these words.


If you want to go through the tribulation period go ahead, but I am meeting Him in the air as thus saith the Lord

need to read rev9:9----14.
 

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Amen, we have the hope and the promise we won't face the wrath of the trip.

the tribulation isn't God's wrath. we're not appointed to wrath.
there's no pretribulation rapture.
 
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all leading the flock is not of God but they pretend to get the offering of money but not offer up their sin so God shall lead them to the true knowledge and wisdom but the world up holds them as they still holding on to sin and not confessing to God in the name of His son then being washed and teacher the congregation the same for all shall know God and His righteousness not self-righteousness
God forgive me for adultery, fornication, covetness..in the name of Jesus amen this is the sinners prayer then ten or more days later be washed of admitted sin
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YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT ONE THING!

MY friend yes you are right about one thing it does not use the word rapture! IN THE BIBLE BUT it does say that before one drop of rain fell yes Noah was in the ARK where MOST POEPLE BUT THE CHURCH IN THE TRIBULATION WITH NOAH AND GOD SEES THEM THROUGH. BUT I AM HOPING THAT YOU HAVE SOME BIBLE UNDERSTANDING. 1COR.2VS.6.11. BECAUSE IT DOES TALK ABOUT ENOCH IN HEBRS11.VS.5 SAYS BY FAITH ENOCH WAS TRANSLATED BY FAITH
BEFORE ANYTHING HAPPEN ENOCH WAS NOT.SO WHO OF USE IN THIS CHAT ROOM CAN SAY IF SOMEONE HAS THAT FAITH THAT ENOCH
THAT HE MUST GO INTO THE TRIBULATION. I CANNOT SEE IT IN HEB.13.8 THAT WOULD MEAN A CHANGE IN THE WORD AND THAT CANNOT HAPPEN.
GOD BLESS YOU ALL!
 
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The world is being prepared for the greatest deception in the history of man. The Antichrist is satan himself and he is coming to decieve. He is the son of perdition, meaning he is the only one that has been pre-judged to burn in hell before judgment day, not Judas . He wants to decieve as many as possible before he goes down. Remember, he was the most beautiful angel God had created. He will preform signs and lying wonders(miracles) decieving many. Search out this Truth for yourself, search diligently. Pastor Joe Schimmel from good fight ministries touches on the subject briefly in this video:
YouTube - Paster Joe Schimmel on New Age Christ


Peace unto you in Jesus Christ​
Dear friends,
Why is this such a controversy? Over 2000 posts on this pre-tribulation rapture theory (myth). Because it's such a godless myth. It's the Protestant equivalent of papal infallibility. It's a great lie, a deception of the evil one. Unknown from Church history; not taught by the historic Eastern Orthodox Church. Take care. God save us from the pre tribulation deception. In Erie PA Scott R. Harrington

 
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I think we would just crucify him.again, with his word .walt2000


Revelation of Christ to John BY WALT2000

IS THIS A THE TRUE INTERPATATION OF REVELATION .

REVELATION 22/18-19 IN THE KING JAMES BIBLE,
STATES THAT THIS IS A STAND ALONE BOOK .
To understand how to interpret Revelation you have to understand how to under stand the workings of a Palindrome. The book of Revelation Repeats itself Horizontally Seven times, in seven segments, As it doe’s Vertically Seven times in Seven segments, The Seven Thunders. As it doe’s Diagonally in another Seven segments, Tying it all together ,in Seven segments. You will understand Revelation through gestalt.
If you don’t understand this you are defeated before you start.

NO OTHER BOOK, OR VERSION, OR OPINION WAS USED.
All Italics and spaces are taken out. All scripture is consecutive and in the same order and flow of Scripture , as in the KING JAMES VERSION OF THE BIBLE.
you have to understand how to under stand the workings of a Palindrome. The book of Revelation Repeats itself Horizontally Seven times, in seven segments, As it doe’s Vertically Seven times in Seven segments, The Seven Thunders. As it doe’s Diagonally in another Seven segments, Tying it all together ,in Seven segments. You will understand Revelation through gestalt.
If you don’t understand this you are defeated before you start.
Rev.10 the Seven Thunders plus a Eighth Thunder Rev.14/2
THE HIDDEN THUNDER?
THE GREAT THUNDER![/CENTER​
 
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1 thes. 4:13-18 Jesus does not touch down on earth as He does post trib, these are seperate events not a false teaching. shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:1th 4:17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.1th 4:18Wherefore comfort one another with these words.


If you want to go through the tribulation period go ahead, but I am meeting Him in the air as thus saith the Lord

who are this we? these are they that are in christ: who are they ? they are them who follow the lamb where so ever he goes;REV.14:4. these are not the majority; although in the end all will be resurected,but have to go through great tribulation first; why? because they have not followed the lamb wheresoever the lamb goes. so paul was speaking about the resurection in general.
at christ coming,he will stay in the air, and the first fruits will meet him in the air; satan will be bound first, then great babylon will be destroyed from the air,then the judgement of the saints.REV.20:4. that have not recieve the mark of the beast.(no meeting the Lord in the air here) dont be lulled into false security. we must go through the great tribulation; eccept the specially chosen.(the first fruits of the harvest)
after satan is bound; babylon destroyed,then the dead in christ, and then the the ones that are still alive will be resurected.
i hope this is clear enough. have a nice one
 
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YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT ONE THING!

MY friend yes you are right about one thing it does not use the word rapture! IN THE BIBLE BUT it does say that before one drop of rain fell yes Noah was in the ARK where MOST POEPLE BUT THE CHURCH IN THE TRIBULATION WITH NOAH AND GOD SEES THEM THROUGH. BUT I AM HOPING THAT YOU HAVE SOME BIBLE UNDERSTANDING. 1COR.2VS.6.11. BECAUSE IT DOES TALK ABOUT ENOCH IN HEBRS11.VS.5 SAYS BY FAITH ENOCH WAS TRANSLATED BY FAITH
BEFORE ANYTHING HAPPEN ENOCH WAS NOT.SO WHO OF USE IN THIS CHAT ROOM CAN SAY IF SOMEONE HAS THAT FAITH THAT ENOCH
THAT HE MUST GO INTO THE TRIBULATION. I CANNOT SEE IT IN HEB.13.8 THAT WOULD MEAN A CHANGE IN THE WORD AND THAT CANNOT HAPPEN.
GOD BLESS YOU ALL!

only a few wrere saved, you must take note of that.(the few in rev.7:3 14:1--3.
 
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I believe in the post trib. Why would God let his children suffer from the plight of the Antichrist. And also the judgements. The Bible says that He doesn't want his children to suffer. I believe that we will ascend to meet our Lord Jesus before tribulation.
I really can't wait for the Rapture, although all of my friends think I'm crazy for believing in it. Sometimes we get into lengthy discusions about it. But they still think I'm crazy.

it is so comforting to believe that,i would love to believe that too,but unfortunately,that is not the case. there is the first fruits,they are first,they will meet the Lord in the air.
the rest will have to go through the tribulation iam afraid,because thats what the scripture says.rev.7:9 .14 need to take note. dont rest on false hope.
and we can not rip that page out.

''wakeup''.
 
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The world is being prepared for the greatest deception in the history of man. The Antichrist is satan himself and he is coming to decieve. He is the son of perdition, meaning he is the only one that has been pre-judged to burn in hell before judgment day, not Judas . He wants to decieve as many as possible before he goes down. Remember, he was the most beautiful angel God had created. He will preform signs and lying wonders(miracles) decieving many. Search out this Truth for yourself, search diligently. Pastor Joe Schimmel from good fight ministries touches on the subject briefly in this video:

YouTube - Paster Joe Schimmel on New Age Christ



Peace unto you in Jesus Christ​
YOU KNOW YOUR WRITING PURE LIES. MAY BE NOT. KEEP LEADING THE BLIND, BLIND MAN