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whatchu talkin' bout VWillis?
Colossians 2:21
“Do not handle, Do not taste, Do not touch”
Ezekiel 34:11
"'For this is what the Sovereign LORD says: I myself will search for my sheep and look after them.
Ezekiel 34:23
I will place over them one shepherd, my servant David, and he will tend them; he will tend them and be their shepherd.
John 10:10
The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy. I came that they may have life and have it abundantly.
John 10:14
"I am the good shepherd; I know my sheep and my sheep know me..
1 Peter 2:25
For you were like sheep going astray, but now you have returned to the Shepherd and Overseer of your souls.
John 11:25-26
Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life.Whoever believes in me, though he die, yet shall he live, and everyone who lives and believes in me shall never die. Do you believe this?”
Colossians 2:21
“Do not handle, Do not taste, Do not touch”
Ezekiel 34:11
"'For this is what the Sovereign LORD says: I myself will search for my sheep and look after them.
Ezekiel 34:23
I will place over them one shepherd, my servant David, and he will tend them; he will tend them and be their shepherd.
John 10:10
The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy. I came that they may have life and have it abundantly.
John 10:14
"I am the good shepherd; I know my sheep and my sheep know me..
1 Peter 2:25
For you were like sheep going astray, but now you have returned to the Shepherd and Overseer of your souls.
John 11:25-26
Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life.Whoever believes in me, though he die, yet shall he live, and everyone who lives and believes in me shall never die. Do you believe this?”
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whatchu talkin' bout VWillis?
Colossians 2:21
“Do not handle, Do not taste, Do not touch”
Ezekiel 34:11
"'For this is what the Sovereign LORD says: I myself will search for my sheep and look after them.
Ezekiel 34:23
I will place over them one shepherd, my servant David, and he will tend them; he will tend them and be their shepherd.
John 10:10
The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy. I came that they may have life and have it abundantly.
John 10:14
"I am the good shepherd; I know my sheep and my sheep know me..
1 Peter 2:25
For you were like sheep going astray, but now you have returned to the Shepherd and Overseer of your souls.
John 11:25-26
Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life.Whoever believes in me, though he die, yet shall he live, and everyone who lives and believes in me shall never die. Do you believe this?”
Colossians 2:21
“Do not handle, Do not taste, Do not touch”
Ezekiel 34:11
"'For this is what the Sovereign LORD says: I myself will search for my sheep and look after them.
Ezekiel 34:23
I will place over them one shepherd, my servant David, and he will tend them; he will tend them and be their shepherd.
John 10:10
The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy. I came that they may have life and have it abundantly.
John 10:14
"I am the good shepherd; I know my sheep and my sheep know me..
1 Peter 2:25
For you were like sheep going astray, but now you have returned to the Shepherd and Overseer of your souls.
John 11:25-26
Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life.Whoever believes in me, though he die, yet shall he live, and everyone who lives and believes in me shall never die. Do you believe this?”
S
[quote=PneumaPsucheSoma;395522]I took a few swipes with a machaira, but not a full-on rhomphaia. I may enter the fray at some point. For now, I'll concentrate on potentially salvific priorities.
Now... about those three God-people...[/quote]
I think you are confusing the term persons with people. Not all persons are people. All people are persons, not all persons are people. The angels of God are persons, but they are bodiless and not people. The persons of God are not people, except for the second person, who is a person who is one of the people, but He is not man only, but also a divine person: He is the God-man. Take care.
Now... about those three God-people...[/quote]
I think you are confusing the term persons with people. Not all persons are people. All people are persons, not all persons are people. The angels of God are persons, but they are bodiless and not people. The persons of God are not people, except for the second person, who is a person who is one of the people, but He is not man only, but also a divine person: He is the God-man. Take care.
Is it fair to assume that you have no personal convictions from the scriptures or the Spirit that Christ is going to take and catch away the church, his body and bride that He has cleansed and washed from all their sin at salvation, before the Antichrist or son of perdition is revealed upon the earth and before the tribulation from heaven will be poured out upon the children of disobedience?
Do you have greater admiration for those that profess Christ and believe that they will be going through the tribulation that is coming upon the earth? You judge the church often and do not have a very good opinion or esteem of that precious body of lost souls that have been purchased and redeemed by the blood of Christ by faith, as you have stated many times. So it is no wonder that you are critical of those that look for God's mercy in the return of Christ that will take away His church and bride unto Himself, who are no longer under condemnation nor subject to God's wrath. As believers and the benefactors of God's great salvation, we should be thankful to God's mercy and grace that these things are true and that Jesus Christ will come to remove the church from the calamity that will befall the earth.
The just shall live by faith. Every promise and every word of God's promises are given that we might believe them by faith. Without faith it is impossible to please God or to live as a believer that has been justified by faith. Faith is the life of the believer that is trusting God for that which He has promised. We are to live by the promises of God by faith through the Spirit and not by the natural disposition of Adam through the strength and ability of the flesh. Doesn't the earnest of the Spirit, that has been given to every believer, give us the expectation of the redemption of our bodies? Doesn't that same Spirit with the bride of Christ cry out to the Lord to, 'Come'? Is not our expectation, as one body, that of one of faith and one hope of our calling? The rapture is a calling to come home and not an escape from reality. Our eternal reality is that when He comes that we are ready and He will take us with Him, that where He is we we will be also, forevermore. That is the promise that He has made and that promise is our expectation. AMEN!
Do you have greater admiration for those that profess Christ and believe that they will be going through the tribulation that is coming upon the earth? You judge the church often and do not have a very good opinion or esteem of that precious body of lost souls that have been purchased and redeemed by the blood of Christ by faith, as you have stated many times. So it is no wonder that you are critical of those that look for God's mercy in the return of Christ that will take away His church and bride unto Himself, who are no longer under condemnation nor subject to God's wrath. As believers and the benefactors of God's great salvation, we should be thankful to God's mercy and grace that these things are true and that Jesus Christ will come to remove the church from the calamity that will befall the earth.
The just shall live by faith. Every promise and every word of God's promises are given that we might believe them by faith. Without faith it is impossible to please God or to live as a believer that has been justified by faith. Faith is the life of the believer that is trusting God for that which He has promised. We are to live by the promises of God by faith through the Spirit and not by the natural disposition of Adam through the strength and ability of the flesh. Doesn't the earnest of the Spirit, that has been given to every believer, give us the expectation of the redemption of our bodies? Doesn't that same Spirit with the bride of Christ cry out to the Lord to, 'Come'? Is not our expectation, as one body, that of one of faith and one hope of our calling? The rapture is a calling to come home and not an escape from reality. Our eternal reality is that when He comes that we are ready and He will take us with Him, that where He is we we will be also, forevermore. That is the promise that He has made and that promise is our expectation. AMEN!
It doesn't matter how well we know the literal words of the bible, or how many church services we go to, or how many souls we think we may witness to, without love we have nothing. And if we seek to continually be critical of certain brothers or sisters in the faith we simply show our spiritual imaturity and a lack of understanding of the heart of the Gospel and what most matters in Christianity
whatchu talkin' bout VWillis?
Colossians 2:21
“Do not handle, Do not taste, Do not touch”
Colossians 2:21
“Do not handle, Do not taste, Do not touch”
The sentence which you have taken part of from above reads in its entirety:
If you have died with Christ to the elementary principles of the world, why do you submit yourself to decrees, such as, "Do not handle, do not taste, do not touch!" (which all refer to things destined to perish with the using)-in accordance with the commandments and the teachings of men?
And Paul, just so we would not misunderstand what he is saying goes on with very next sentence:
These are matters which have, to be sure, the appearance of wisdom in self-made religion and self-abasement and severe treatment of the body, but are of no value against fleshly indulgence.
It seems that this passage has nothing to do with what you are saying.
find another.
If it is not fair to assume what I mentioned in the first paragraph, then tell us plainly what convictions you do have from the scriptures or revelations from the Spirit concerning the catching away of the church. If a remember correctly, I believe, in another post, that you mentioned you were leaning toward a mid-trib rapture. With the gift you profess to have, I would think that the Spirit would tell you right out what the truth is concerning this matter involving the rapture of the church. The Spirit has revealed to you the judgment that is coming upon the church, so not to tell you concerning His plan to rapture it would seem to be incomplete. One to shame and discipline the church and the other would be to give it faith and hope. Perhaps you don't feel comfortable telling us because you feel that we might not understand your position on this that you have received from the Spirit.
...and the disposition that you have exhibited from your heart in this post toward me is...?
...you may consider your post one of exhortation that comes from a mature believer, while you have judged what I have said as being immature and critical of my brother. I have that right don't I?
Who will be our judge in this matter? It would be better that you be honest and admit that you have disdain for me because of how I communicate and address matters of doctrine and certain individuals. Make sure that you inform others that you feel that I have committed blasphemy against the Holy Spirit of which is unforgivable. Why you still correspond to any of my posts or have anything to do with me is not being true to your convictions. Either be true to your convictions of truth or tell me that you have repented of your false accusations of blasphemy against me. That way there may be a possibility for true fellowship that is based on the blood of Christ and not some insecure sentimental relationship with others through personality rapport.
...you may consider your post one of exhortation that comes from a mature believer, while you have judged what I have said as being immature and critical of my brother. I have that right don't I?
Who will be our judge in this matter? It would be better that you be honest and admit that you have disdain for me because of how I communicate and address matters of doctrine and certain individuals. Make sure that you inform others that you feel that I have committed blasphemy against the Holy Spirit of which is unforgivable. Why you still correspond to any of my posts or have anything to do with me is not being true to your convictions. Either be true to your convictions of truth or tell me that you have repented of your false accusations of blasphemy against me. That way there may be a possibility for true fellowship that is based on the blood of Christ and not some insecure sentimental relationship with others through personality rapport.